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210. i For IPO ☑️ |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 6:47:44 PM
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That''s The Game Buddy
209. Rabby |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 5:44:41 PM
Can Anyone please tell me that how many ipo''s are upcoming or running currently so funds can be arranged accordingly. Please also let know that which ipo''s should be subscribed according to their priority. By How many ipo''s i mean that once the funds are blocked then they cant be used by another ipo until released.
Thanks In advance.
209.1. krupa |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 5:56:13 PM (800+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Pura list diya he ipo ka main board par thoda mahenat karo
208. sdz |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 4:56:15 PM
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5N+5P. Sigachi vvvtough in Retail
208.1. sdz |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 5:08:02 PM
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I replied to someone''s query and that post is vanished now and my reply stayed 😄😂
207. Electron Bot |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 4:49:54 PM
Itne sare IPO ek sath , or vo bhi itna bade size ke IPOs.
Isiliye market se pese uthake, yaha pe sub invest kar rahe lagte he.

Isiliye roz market gir raha he, or yaha IPOs first day pe hi fully subscribe ho jata he :D
206. MehulStk |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 1:21:34 PM
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Hello Dear Fellow Investors,
I wanted to apply for HNI category in Axis bank asba, which category should I select in their portal for HNI?
Please Help
Thanks
206.12. lokes |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 4:09:03 PM
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blocking 450 lots in sigachi, in comparison to that, same amount will fetch more returns in nykaa and even policy bazaar....defnitely not a good idea...
even if sigachi lists at double then also blocking 450 lots in that will be proved wrong deal in comparison to using those funds in nykaa.
2 lots of nykaa will definitely fetch more profit than 1 lot of sigachi and in 450 lots sigachi only 1 lot allotment probably and nykaa aprox 3 lot allotment.
206.13. lokes |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 4:28:34 PM
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@sdz: on 1st nov only 1 ipo is closing that is nykaa so there wont be any issue at last time, still i will be having 15 mins buffer ;)
other active ipo''s doesnt matter since HNI concentration (load on site) etc will come on last day only during this time, other days of subscription wont be having much impact.
Last time when issue came, it was 3 ipos closing on same day.
205. PragneshPatel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 1:46:04 PM
I applied to IPO via GROWW, but not getting UPI mandate. Any solution?
205.1. G J 😃 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 4:26:42 PM
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Wait till EOD, it should come.
Or you can use ASBA.
Or retry on Monday
204. Jay Vaan |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 4:08:45 PM
Experts , Share market is down because of upcoming IPOs?
since NYKAA and PAYTM are big IPOs and QIBs need more money to win allocation.

203. Big B |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 11:54:43 AM
Current GMP please
203.1. Chalak lomdi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 3:37:43 PM
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600*
202. Nikhil Samrat |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 1:06:37 PM
Can I apply for the nykaa ipo?

Will it give listing gains...as I don''t have any thought of holding it for long term

What do you the think the oversubscription will be in the QIB''s and RII''s
202.1. Chalak lomdi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 3:35:45 PM
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@nikhil mota bhai purani comment padh lijiye...
201. Jay. |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 1:58:49 PM
Grey Market Premium: Rs.600
201.1. Chalak lomdi |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 3:34:43 PM
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sakhti dekh rahe ho ipo ki.... :)
200. Hero of stock |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2021 6:52:46 PM
IRCTC will have to share 50% revenue earned from convenience fee with Indian Railways wef 1st Nov 2021

HIGHLY NEGATIVE FOR IRCTC

( 400-600 range in few weeks )


IRCTC to open at lower circuit tomorrow
200.10. LearningIPO |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 12:39:57 PM
Unbelievable prediction by @Harit of rollback.. Hatsoff!!
200.11. Kishore S |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 3:28:33 PM
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@Harit, I completely agree with you. It''s a scam by government
199. R K G |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 2:28:52 PM
Dear admin yha par ipo ke alawa or phaltu discussion ho rahi h kuch to apne baccho ke nam search kar rahe h ,kuch other shares ki discussion kar rahe h.Jis ipo ka page h uski discussion 50 % bhi nhi h. Phir kya sense h is forum ka. Thanks.
198. Chirdhar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 2:06:39 PM
Can we put 5 application from IndusInd ASBA? please dont spam if you are not using indusind bank ASBA service.
197. Have Faith 🙏 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 9:08:50 AM
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@Jstm

CT opening in Red
197.12. Param Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 12:18:17 PM
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@have faith after results looks like they are not interested in profit they are only interested in their employees "company which are not investors friendly will never will be able to generate wealth"
197.13. jstm |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 1:24:07 PM
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CT is reminding me TBZ whose results were used to be good but every year top management increases their salary above industry standard and that''s the reason good result didn''t reward the company and investors. Same may be the case in CT also. Good result but money may be eaten against the purpose of IPO. Management seems to be very hungry for money but in a short-cut way. BTW I''ll continue my holding for LT.
196. Archit patel |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 12:11:58 AM
Hey everyone
Still holding cartrade. Any view about it because result is out
Thanks
196.1. Jetha Lal |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 12:44:36 AM
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Strong Hold. Growth is superb in every front. Let''s see how market reacts tomorrow.
196.2. Swapnil Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 1:06:20 PM
Will also hold at least for 3 more quarters, then decide.. I am holding about 65 qty
195. Have Faith 🙏 |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 12:04:29 PM
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IRCTC chuuna lgaya jinhone lc m share de diye....cricket ki saatebazi se bhi 2 number aage nikla ye tho
194. Trump.in |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 8:26:59 AM
Reliance retail soon start selling cosmetic online...big negative for nykaa..

https://m.economictimes.com/tech/technology/reliance-retail-to-soon-start-selling-cosmetics-online/articleshow/86439597.cms
194.2. Hatchens |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 11:35:50 AM
Reliance has already disrupted e-grocers like Bigbasket/Grofers by launching JioMart, and fashion giants like Myntra with Ajio. Now targeting cosmetics player Nykaa. In e-commerce, no company is safe (remember Snapdeal, ShopClues, etc). It is important to buy at justifiable valuation and not some artificial IPO hype.
194.3. Jetha Lal |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 12:02:45 PM
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If we remember then same kind of news also published while IPO of Zomato that Amazon has started Food delivery in Banglore and they can disrupt food delivery sector.
193. Avenue |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2021 11:21:52 AM
*The Zomato Story*
(Just sharing a good write up))

TRADING OF LOSS - NEW PARADIGM

Company X accumulated losses of over Rs 4,600 Crore

Incurred Loss of Rs. 106.9 Crore in 2018
Loss of Rs. 1000 Crore in 2019
Loss of Rs. 2400 Crore in 2020
Loss of Rs. 800 Crore in 2021
Loss of Rs. 350 Crore in 3 Months Apr to June 2021

Aggregating Total Loss of Rs. 4600 Crore from 2018 to 2021 June

With these Losses continuing to mount high, they managed to stand on their feet from 2018 till Today. Strange that it is not a year-old Business nor having previous years of accumulated profits that can set-off their current and future Losses. Hence it is quite evident that Net Loss is funded by Capital and Debt. But why do the Investors keep pumping the fund in the Startup even when they see no Profit in 4 years.

If the Business was running on Loss

Q) Were the Employees not paid ??
Answer is No, They were paid handsomely

Q) Were the Customers forced to Pay the high amount ?
Answer is No, they were instead given Meals at high discount

Q) Might the Founders and Top Brass were taking less Perks ?
Answer is No,

Founder Basic Salary was Rs. 3.50 Crore
Co-Founder -Gross Remuneration was Rs. 3.70 Crore
CTO 1.50 Crore
CFO 3.26 Crore

Q) Any Income Tax
A: Since the Company was running at a loss, there is no Income Tax payable

So who was bearing the brunt of Heavy Loss ??
The Answer is the Investor of X Company having stakes in the company.


It is obvious that the Loss of 4670 crore is funded by External Investor

So isn''t it the Existing Investor of X Company at Loss?
How does this External Existing Investor gain if the Company is running Loss ??

Now here is the trick.
There is a Trading of Loss.
What If I tell You that Loss can be sold at a Profit??
Yes that is possible.

Investors (Top 5 Investors were holding around 50% Stake) who pumped funds into this startup have already had their funds eaten up by the losses. Yet in the books they held Numbers of Share and % of Stake.


VALUATION- The Talking Point

Now, The Company went for Independent Valuation by a Valuer

The Valuer valued the Loss Making Company for Rs.60000 Crore !!! Strange but true.

With this Valuation, the Company went for IPO. That means they are going to list their Shares in the Stock-market making their Shares easily accessible to the Public to Purchase, and sell further.

Strong Advertisement, Endorsement by Some Experts, News Channels, Social Media, etc created such a hype in the market of forthcoming IPOs that it gave the impression to every Stock-market Trader of a Cake 🎂, that no one was going to give a miss.

With such a Marketing, Valuation and Expert Endorsement, IPO got oversubscribed by whopping 38% with Listing priced at Rs 116 which was Valued at 72-76 (which itself was questionable)

The interesting point was that Company X went for IPO for Rs. 9400 Crore, Out of Which only 400 Crore was only pumped into Company, Rest 9000 Crore was Part of Offer for Sale by Existing Investor. (Did anyone notice that Subscribing to IPO means purchasing Shares from existing Investors which generally people are reluctant to do, as they are more interested in funding the company than buying such shares from existing Investors.) That means out of 9400 Crore subscribe and funded by Public in the form of Rs. 116 share, first 9000 crore will go to the Early Investors.

Now here we go !!!!

Who are these Early Investors ?
These are the same people who funded the loss making Company and now they sold their stake at higher profits.

Now the Value of Share of Early Investors is 1010 times higher than when they purchased the share at first.

So, for 4700 Crore Loss Making Company, everyone was paid more than their worth
- Employee
- Customers
- Founders
- Top Management
- And at Last and at Higher rate - The Investors

So who is now Handling the Loss ?
Yes, WE Public holding shares of X Company !!!

Right.
The Loss has been passed on from the Top 10 Investors to the Public at a Profit ranging from 60 to 1010 times !!

This is the Stock-market for You !!!!
And, a new way of making money.

*CREATE A VALUE PERCEPTION, and NOT VALUE.*
*_Sell the DREAM and not PERFORMANCE._*
*PROFIT is history.*
*_Market Valuation is the way to make money._*
193.20. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2021 10:35:33 PM
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@ Avenue
This write up is a good one if we set aside the interwoven deficiency of fact relating to OFS i.e the existing investors are exiting at higher rates and thereby shifting the burden to the incumbents. It is a good depiction of the ongoing affairs relating to the company.
It shows that even huge loss may be an element of good business if presented palatabley with infusion of rosy future. Now huge loss is a huge talking point of a huge future.
But what worries me , inspite of getting opportunity the existing investors have not exited . Now it is clear . If they tried to exit at the time of IPO ,they would have got Rs 76 .Now it is already in the range of 135 - 150 . Now they hope still better price is possible. See the confidence of the^ LOSS ENJOYERS^. The same thing is relevant
in this present environ.
Keep it up .Try to eliminate incorrect data if any.
Thank you,
193.21. Avenue |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 11:54:47 AM
@Ultrasnow.. sure I will be more careful in future. It is was very easy to understand article and in that ease mood I overlooked the facts.

@Asok Sarkar.. Thanks.
BTW the loss has not been moved to me as I have exited @ 142 :)
192. ND IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 10:34:20 AM (200+ Posts)
Sir axis asba me dif. PAN & dif DEMAT me kitni app. Alowed he please sug. Me
191. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2021 9:27:51 AM
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Those investors have dream run last 18 months , should be careful
for them is time to invest in good stocks and stay away from small caps