107.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 17, 2021 7:33:16 PM
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20th evening/night is allotment. Its Mostly always on third working day after issue close for any mainboard/sme ipo. 23rd is listing. 21st refund/unblock.
@Noorul @MRavi @Lokes @Dinesh @Spock @MOG @MK and other friends
Current situation is too complicated for me and I was never good in Maths. Please help with your suggestions on the follow:
I have three account and have following funds available-
Main Account – 25 Lacs can apply - 20 Lots in Nupur or 170 lots in DP
Two other a/c – 5 lacs each can apply - 4 lots in Nupur or 30/34 lots in DP or 30/34 lots in MedPlus Or can apply 1 lot in retail in Nupur and 25 lots in either DP or MedPlus
Please suggest your preferred way to utilize the above mentioned limited funds in current IPOs.
In your main account.. whichever u choose.. both will b in lottery.. but still i would prefer nupur because allotment chances bit higher here if compare to DP. In second acc. All in to Med plus to get some comfirm allotment. Its my views and analysis.. i not claiming its a best breakup suited for ur fund..
Dont put your hard earned money in any stock without research or without taking advice from financial advisor. Investing money in such small company or management without having any history is very risky. It may be chances that you will not received back your hard earned money ever.
106.3. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 12:35:39 PM
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@avenue: i feel u have already enough experience now in handling funds and which one to choose to apply :) My views are same as noorul. Apply in nupur from first account. And in second account, if possible do a RTGS and take funds in one single account as 10 lakh then apply 1 lot in nupur and remaining in medplus, medplus is going good now. if that is not possible, then in HNI, both those account will also be in lottery and you may not get anything anywhere. or in those two 5 lakh account, apply 1 lot in retail in medplud and nupur from both, and transfer remaining 3.6 lakh from both account to main account and use all in nupur form main account :) its tricky for you actually due to three accounts :)
I did not know HNI cutoff of other sources will here also be beyond 3 pm. I thought figures of 3 pm to be final but it kept increasing beyond 3 too. Finally settles at 53x. Time wasted and money blocked. I don''t see any chance of allotment with 21 lot application. I think SME is not my cup of tea.
106.10. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 3:29:37 PM
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@avenue: its simple thing, HNI is 4pm cut off time by sebi/exchanges. And it will be same for all kind of ipos. Remaining it depends on banks/brokers, which one is allowing till when.
106.11. 🔥 MOG 🔥| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 3:35:14 PM
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@avenue 4pm is the final cut off time just like mainboard ipos.
@Avenue Never ever leave the opportunity to apply in Retail ... even if its 50X. I got allotment in Latent in Retail and nothing in HNI. I got 2 lots in Retail out of 3 applications in Dmart as well ... that was abt 8X in retail , but still the odds worked out.
The return percentage on being allotted in Retail is well worth the blocking of that amount of funds, no matter how heavy the IPO is subscribed.
106.13. 🔥 MOG 🔥| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 4:28:05 PM
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@m.k I partly agree with you but u also have to consider the amount blocked. Mainboard ipos require 15k only and i always apply in retail irrespective of heavy oversubscription....U get lucky once in a while....I also got 1 lot in Latent. Sme ipos require 1.2- 1.8 lakhs per lot and with such heavy oversubscription i don''t feel it''s worth it when other ipos are available.
@MK.. you are absolutely correct and even I got 1 lot of Latent in retail :) I never leave retail when I can not apply in HNI. In DP I already applied 4 in Retail.
However in this case 1 lot meant 8 lots of Med+, and if I had applied 1 retail, my application at Med+ would have been too less. Now after leaving Nupur, I am atleast in 50%+ HNI category with 43 lots. (just).
@Avenue.. i was also thinking d same @ 4pm.. Damage has been done by that msg.. and people had migrated in huge quantity from mainboard to sme.. Hve seen many new members for d first time only.. but sme can backfire anytime, anyday. Anyways hve applied 34 lots FF.. lets see if i manage to get a bite of this cake. Will post some nasty msgs about sme in mainboard in few days..
106.18. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 8:33:35 PM
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@noorul: last line is awesome...lol :) btw omnipotent now came to 43 now and nidan is at 51 from 125 , both are in continuous downtrend after listing. Luckily DMR is still going good.
The biggest mistake of this year that i made.. sold Dmr on listing day.. One of d reason is I alloted sigachi and hold it, hoping few u circuits but it started hitting lower one.. that terrible impact was there somewhere in my mind behind dat decision.. And Dmr started hitting U circuits.. Only few lucky souls get such fortune to ride the upper circuits.. enjoy 👍
106.20. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 16, 2021 10:07:07 AM
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@noorul: and some even more lucky souls, like our MRavi sir ;) , even get two lots allotted :) Anyways dmr has hit lower circuit today, nazar lag gyi tumari ;) :) Hopefully it wont go much down, lets see.
@lokes, hahaha, ''lucky souls''. (of course 2 lots, you have such a memory 👌👍. sometimes I forget how many lots i have 😂. ) I just hold sometimes blindly, not following too much price ups & down. most of the SME IPO''s are doing good, except very few below IPO price. mostly after this quarter results will review and decide to hold or sell.
Thanks
106.22. M.K.| Link| Bookmark|
December 17, 2021 10:22:58 AM
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@Noorul Nasty Messages... Can''t wait to read them 😂
We all will join in. Itna veerana ho jaayega that the LM will start contacting you... Kyun pitva rahe ho hamare SME IPO ko 😂
@lokes and other experts, any other upcoming SME IPO interesting? (no time to go through, on quick look, nothing so far).
Thanks
106.24. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 17, 2021 3:31:47 PM
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@MRavi sir : i skipped FOCE as replied Dinesh message here and will not apply in any of these three small ipos with very small revenues and profit/losses whatever: clara , brandbucket, wherrelz. Need to check vivo collaboration, didnt go through that now.
We appreciate the Interest shown by you in the IPO of Nupur Recyclers Limited. We value the trust you have put in our company
The Whole Group extends its heartiest Thanks to you. It is you because of which the IPO has garnered the Highest subscription figure in the Year 2021. We look forward to have a long term association with you in future.
For further information, please contact us on compliance@nupurrecyclers.com or our Merchant Banker Corporate CapitalVentures Private Limited at info@ccvindia.com;
I guess it may list @150 ,let us see what market does to this stock. Can go upto 480 based on its peer pe ratio
101. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 3:17:17 PM
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Other than MRavi, is there anyone here in HNI who applied for 53 or more lots in HNI ? it looks like medplus was better/sure deal now instead of no allotment :( @MRavi sir: you might have applied 50 lots or more, right ?
Applied for 70 assuming will get 2 with plan of selling one listing and another to hold with SL. Now will get only 1, will probably hold with SL.
101.3. 🔥 MOG 🔥| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 3:34:17 PM
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@lokes Looked at the subscription figures and decided to save funds for DP. Saw no point with a probability of 1/33 in retail and hni required atleast 35 lakhs + which i don''t have at the moment.
101.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 3:39:32 PM
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@ahirer/@shakitamaan: i knew this one will move faster from 2.30 till 4pm like prevest denpro, i was expecting it around 40-45X. @Mog: in HNI, its not 35 lakhs, its 53 lots means 63.6 lakh needed here for sure 1 lot. ya medplus and data patterns are good comparing sure returns on investment instead of here going in lucky draw in HNI/retail.
@lokes, have you applied or not ? I have applied in both HNI and Retail.
101.9. Krishnaji| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 4:36:37 PM
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@Lokes- After this bumper subscription, thinking how much gas have HNI''s left with them for Data Patterns. Went FF in RII for Medplus and reserved some 200lots for DP but all looks in vain for now:) Surprising part is mainly Rategain and Tega funds were available for this. Don''t wanna make a mockery of my own now by accepting the mandate in RII ;):)
@lokes, you are right. actually 100 lots. I applied when subscription was around 25 X.
Thanks
101.11. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 4:50:56 PM
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@Mog: that 0.5 thing might not be working here because of bigger lot size, in the end anyways, they need to adjust all shares to everyone, so here chances of deviations are much and above HNI subscription also, its allotment in lots only not proportionate shares so here all those formula will not be applicable exactly same way. And even in 0.5, with 35 lakhs you know technical chances are 55% only if more applicants, being single is not easy with lesser lots. @dinesh: ya i have applied obviously, as informed already to you in first comment, yesterday also replied to GJ, but chances of allotment are very less :( @c.dinesh: congrats, you may get 3 lots probably. @M.K: All the best :) many retail applications were also not possible here due to third party asba might be rejected like last time so i didn''t blocked funds there @krishnaji: its all about luck, its more than 30 times in retail but someone in the end will be allotted, right, chances are less, your wish to accept mandate or use those funds in data patterns.
101.12. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 4:53:06 PM
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@MRavi sir: i knew you will play big only here, congrats for 2 lot allotment :)
@MOG With reference to your query at S.No. 6 , Yes, the same HNI strategy of Mainboard IPOs will be applicable in SME as well.
101.14. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 5:06:04 PM
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@M.K: its not exactly same here as mainboard ipos for both categories : lots applied above HNI subscription (since allotment is in lots not shares) and lots applied less than HNI subscription (since finally all shares has to be adjusted here in lots so here its not exactly same, but more deviation, some very less deviation sometimes i saw in mainbord too since in the end they also need to adjust all shares to everyone)
applied 30 lots in one account and 6 in retail in diff accounts...at one point i was hoping for a confirmed allotment in hni application but not sure now...
@lokes, I think possible one only (slim chance for 2), . As SME IPO NII allotment may get lower as retail subscription get equalized 🤔 with NII as far as I know.
I will take one lot happily as it will be another blockbuster listing (100% or more and will be UC for few days🤞 )
@Noorul, Also I don''t understand your comment at all as like @lokes.
I think Noorul referred to someone who claimed he applied 2700 SME lots. Skipped Nupur, I believe they have corporate governance issues. Anyway would not have got allotment looking at the huge investor reponse. Made a few retail applications in Medplus instead
101.23. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 16, 2021 10:11:45 AM
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@MRavi: that retail equalizing thing happens in reverse situation means when NII subscription is lower than retail, then they give some shares from NII to retail to make subscription almost equal in both cases. Now in this case in nupur, it wont change. And i know and sure that you will be allotted 2 lots only (no slim chance, its 95% chance), you can see on allotment day. Congrats in advance.
can anybody confirm refund dates. is it 20th or 21st??
101.25. Krishnaji| Link| Bookmark|
December 16, 2021 12:30:04 PM
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@Avenue As per zerodha it says this-- Allotment finalization-> 2021-12-20 Refund initiation-> 2021-12-21 So mostly refund should be late night or the next day of allotment ie., 21st but again all depends on the diff banks... This fund can''t use in Supriya Life Sciences(unless one takes chance in RII and goes UPI mode) for sure but will be available for CMS Info systems.
Thanks!
100. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 14, 2021 2:11:22 PM
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@Suneel Padavala : i would suggest to wait till tomorrow 2.45pm and then decide based on subscription. i wont suggest to go all 40 lots with nupur. Both medplus/nupur are high risk high reward kind of based on investment/returns since medplus gmp can''t say will sustain till listing and in nupur, since so many new people are applying first time, so there may be selling pressure on listing. Data patterns is only safe investment (if its upto 350X) but with low returns but sure returns. So better to divide like 25 lots in nupur and around 140 lots in medplus or 20 lots in nupur and 200 lots in medplus or 30 lots in nupur and 100 lots in medplus , as per subscriptions tomorrow. In nupur, if its 25X to 35X in HNI then also you will mostly get 1 lot only with 40 lots application and with 25 lots application also you will be able to get 1 lot so better to use extra fund in medplus but suppose nupur going around 40X final then apply all 40 lots in nupur. Hope you understood and can decide accordingly now. I mentioned about all three.
Agree @Dinesh. It could go 100X, however MapMyIndia would have taken lot of HNI money and with Medplus & Data Patterns are on-going waiting to consume some more HNI money. With this, there is a possibiity it could be around 50-60X.
However, we can wait till tomorrow noon to get actual numbers.
100.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 14, 2021 5:58:07 PM
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@suneel @dinesh: i didn''t said in my post that it cant go to 40X or 50X or 90X, i gave suneel all possible options as per subscriptions since he informed he was confused about medplus and nupur. Remaining lets see how it goes.
100.5. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 1:10:46 PM
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@suneel: looks like it will be confusing still to decide for you :) let us know what you are deciding finally.
with 400 lots , chances are of getting 4-5 lots in medplus so around 15-17-20K profit approx and in nupur if getting alloted 1 lot then may be same/less/more profit but if allotted 2 lots in nupur then may be more profit than medplus but then u need to think about some safety/risk etc also.
100.6. SONMAYA| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 1:29:42 PM
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@Lokes, I was totally confused Finally at 2 50PM, applied 30 Lots in Nupur and 83 Lots in Medplus.
I''m sure if this is correct decision,but went this option.
What do you think?
100.8. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 2:21:27 PM
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@suneel: ya it was confusing, but your decision looks fine now, same as i suggested yesterday. In medplus you will get 1 lot for sure either straightforward or in lottery and nupur also mostly u will get 1 lot, can be little tricky here if nupur crosses 45X suppose. Remaining we will come to know by 4pm :) hope for the best.
@Lokes, Looks my strategy will backfire as Nupur went to 50X. Still 60% chances are there, but I doubt knowing my super luck. I didn''t expected Nupur subscription will double in last 1 hour. It was at 25X at 2:45PM and went to 53X by 4Pm.
I will definitely get 1 lot in Medplus as I applied 83 lots and subscription is 85X. Looks going with Medplus in FF might be better strategy. But anyhow, might take this experience for future IPOs
100.10. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 8:44:51 PM
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@suneel: ya i already had doubt of this probability too as i mentioned in my message. it moved like prevest denpro in last hour in HNI, doubled around. it was already around 27 times around 2.50pm in HNI , that time it was looking to touch 40-45X but it crossed 50 even. lets Hope for the best now. Anyways yesterday u predicted 50-60X that came true, you should have waited around 2.50pm and applied all in nupur around 40 lots. Anyways Good luck now :) ya experience will be used in future :)
99. hchc| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 6:57:45 PM
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Around 1415 cr collected
Seems to be highest subscribed SME in terms of money collected for the year 2021
99.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 8:35:21 PM
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lets hope it lists like prevest denpro ;) :) Anyways allotment is also very tough now :( Need hell lot of luck
97.4. sbipo| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 3:33:45 PM
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@lokes, I have left Nupur even in retail after seeing subs,and applied Med in retail only 4 applications,lets see what happens in HP/Supriya,but unfortunately got allotment in RTT 2/4,can u suggest what to do in RTT on 17th listing, Thankd
97.5. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 4:59:57 PM
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@sbipo: what happened to this below funds (90lots) usage? you can reply there. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1195&c=480951&ap=0
Regarding rategain, lets discuss there only on 16th/17th morning, mostly all ipos are sell on listing these days.
97.6. snipperRaj| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 5:34:51 PM
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For 44 lots , its more than 80% probability, you will surely get.
I applied for 27. 27/53.12 probability , 50.82% chance...very unlikely.. icicidirect didnt allow me to increase bid and opted not to apply in medplus :(.. what a mess ....would have been better to use it elsewhere..
97.7. sbipo| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 6:13:32 PM
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@lokes, Thanks,but I think even in retail I can get 1 lot if in luck,yes off course in hni with 90 lots,I would have got 1 lot congirmed but seeing less premium and pharma retailer and Fed meet, I didn''t like to apply in hni,doubler ipo to milta nahin,kyaa 2-3000/ k liye mathapachchi karenge. Let''s see what happens 2nite in US then I may apply in hni in data or hp or supriya,though for now, data would be very tough to get allotment with only 90 lots in hni.
97.8. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
December 15, 2021 8:24:04 PM
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@sbipo: ya fine. anyways as u said it would be tough in data too and in supriya too still ya better to apply in HNI in any one of them (data/supriya) since in retail it will be too much tough there and in medplus, its easy to get in retail if luck favors little.