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Neogen Chemicals Limited IPO Message Board (Page 18)

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167. satyaaa |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:55:03 PM
I feel, QIB and HNI will apply in good numbers. Listing is on 09.05. Market will remain range bound till that time and chances are bright for listing at 275-80 level. Do not worry, apply in full force.
167.1. ???? IPO Adhyadesh ???? |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:57:23 PM
275-80 ?
itna too GMP bhi nahi hai.
166. Rajesh jain123 |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:56:24 PM
Due to very small size ipo of only Rs 132 Cr. high subscription is expected . As per Analyst No Seller will be on listing day . Expected listing price of Rs 260 giving return of 20 % . Go for Subscription . Don't miss the opportunity.
165. N.K Bhojwani |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:56:13 PM
पैसा लगाऊ या नही
164. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:48:53 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
1) EPS for full year for 2018-19 will be 6.97 based on 9 months results.

2) At 215 (issue price) that's a PE of 30.84.

3) assuming 30% growth the EPS (on diluted basis) will be 9.06. Hence issue is at a PE of 24.

4) adding 40 rupees grey cost means we are buying at 36.6 PE on FY'19 and 28.20 PE on FY'20.

5) ATUL and Aarti are trading at PE of 24 and 32 respectively based on 9 months results.

6) the working capital cycle is really long - almost 9 months. Because of which cash flow generation is negative.
164.1. rvr |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:55:23 PM
yes ....that is why I am surprised by gmp....what is cooking for them in this small SIZE IPO
164.2. ???? IPO Adhyadesh ???? |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:55:38 PM
yes , IPO is costly from pe multiple point of view.
163. Aditya Hujband |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:40:14 PM
Don't consider only subscription figure of retailers... This is small size ipo and major portion is reserved for retailers. . most of the retailers apply only for listing gain... If Qib and HIN category not highly subscribed then lower circuit may be hit on listing day... So don't be greedy. . apply only after 2 pm if Qib and HIN is highly subscribed ..
163.1. Rajat Jindal |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:52:45 PM
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True. Qibs and HNIs subscriptions are most important if you want listing gains. ????
162. Aditya Hujband |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:22:43 PM
i m not applying in this ipo ... coz big gap between closing and listing days.. around 12 days..
if any negative thing happens between 12 days gmp and listing gain ll be highly affected ..
one more thing this stock ll be listed in T category ..means trading ll stop for entire day if stock price hit 5% up or down for first 10 trading days
Those r ready to take risk can apply for listing gain.. expected listing gain is around Rs. 2200 per lot
162.2. abdixit |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:42:21 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Bad news effect for 1-2 days only. So it is the same case if difference is 5 days or 12 days. I think that should not be the reason to avoid it.
162.3. Aditya Hujband |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:50:18 PM
amount of listing gain is not very high.. chances of allotment in retail category is also very less... i m not interested in blocking money where risk reward ratio is poor and hv many other opportunities. .. u can apply if u want....????
161. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:36:19 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1200+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
My advIse. APPLY.

Not much to loose, but reasonable chances for listing gain.

I have applied on my name as well as in the name my family membbers.

160. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:25:53 PM
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Getting allottment itself is very difficult. 1 in 12 may get allottment.

Whatever may be market condition at the time of listing, the chances of listing gain are very high.

We rspect your decision. However the chances of negative listing are very low.
159. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:03:23 PM
GMP 35/-

I am not rushing to apply in Neogen as its already 6 Times.
Hence Due to High Figures i am not participating
Even Premium is 35/-
Which gives 2300 Rs Profit on Alloted.
I have enormous other Opportunities.

Take Care.
Retail 15X Expt.

159.1. Harsh Rastogi |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:13:40 PM
Hi Arjun sir, please share opportunities from secondary market?
159.2. Amit Chheda |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:21:01 PM
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Even if it is subrcribed 20 times in retail, then also it is worth applying...try ur luck....Secondry market has tendency to ruine ur capital....this is Tension Free....gmp of 35 will shoot to 85 plus by evening....just go with flow....
158. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | April 24, 2019 11:15:52 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
@ Pradip IPO,

Undoubtedly @ 215, IPO of Neogen chemicals is aggressively priced.
But,
We have to keep some of the following positives regarding NCL in mind......

1. NCL'S revenue is growing @ 23% CAGR & PAT is growing @ 43% CAGR since last three years.

2. Chemical market is expected to grow @ more than 5% for at least next five years.

3. Company is reducing debt by repaying about 20 crore from IPO money which brings it's D/E to acceptable level.

Last but not least...

4. S P Tulsian has given avoid rating to this IPO.

So,
I m fully confident of about 10-15% listing day gain.

Already applied through all my accounts.

Thanks.

@ Harit ,
Congratulations on your new status.
Thanks.
158.7. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | April 25, 2019 8:43:18 PM
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@ Amit Pathak,
You can apply for 10-15% listing gain.
Thanks.
158.8. Best wishes |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:19:05 PM
Applied in all my 03 account.
Can I hold for long term....
Please guide.
157. rvr |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:18:06 PM
I am limiting my application...there is no use of applying more application...which we should have done in last three ipo's...now retailers mad max fury started
156. K Arun |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:12:12 PM
UP to what time HDFC & SBI asba remain opens on last day
156.1. Vedansh |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:13:59 PM
HDFC up to 4.30
SBI up to 2
155. KKHAPANDI K |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:01:48 PM
In BSE which group will listing?
Like B or T?
155.1. Johny |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:02:10 PM
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T
154. Cautious ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:02:00 PM
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Total Bid Details
(Neogen Chemicals Limited)
Qualified Institutional Buyers (QIBs)      1.4016
Non Institutional Investors(NII)      4.1183
Retail Individual Investors (RIIs)      6.6452
Employee Reserved      0
Reservation PortionShareholder      0
Total      4.6147
153. Johny |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 12:00:45 PM
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FIIs entered!
152. sree vas |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 11:55:15 AM
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i have applied 1 lot , only 1 application
151. Kapil Verma |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 11:26:28 AM
Anyone here to buy in GMP? What's the price in GMP?
150. spars |   Link |  Bookmark | April 25, 2019 7:13:21 PM
According to me

Scenario in NCL is like high risk and low return

Possibilities of listing gain r there only because of it issue size

150.3. DownriteVJ |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 11:19:31 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1400+ Posts, 1200+ Likes)
True. But when u got something on hand, worth taking that risk of getting listing gain.
150.4. VALUE INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 11:23:35 AM (900+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
Anyhow allotment is by lottery. There are very less chances of getting if you apply.
Apply if you interested or give it a pass.
149. Arjun Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 11:09:58 AM
Neogen
GMP 38/-

*QIB 6X
Retail 15X+
HNI 2000 Cr Book.+
148. Tinkerbell |   Link |  Bookmark | April 26, 2019 10:56:51 AM (800+ Posts, 1800+ Likes)
*NEOGEN CHEMICALS LTD*
*FINAL DAY SUBS FIGURE AT 10:55 A.M.*
QIB 0.95X**
NII 2.10X
RII 5.19X
TOTAL 3.32X
Total No.of RET.FORMS : 1,61,097
**Excluding Anchor
*Apps Wise : 4.82X*