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677. Hariprasad |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 3:27:15 PM
Eagle eye,

How much NH you applied and how much got? I missed it :-(

Can i apply both in NII and RII from one account??
677.1. Manipo |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 3:32:53 PM (200+ Posts)
Don''t do that. Your application will gt cancelled.
676. Montu S Vora |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 3:21:50 PM
Dear ALL,
Kiran Mazumdar Shaw is holding 47,05,671 shares in Narayana Hrudayalaya Ltd.

Regards,
Montu
675. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 3:10:29 PM
BYE GUYS ...SEE U ALL IN NEXT IPO...MOSTLY PARAG DAIRY...BUYYYYYYYYYYY THAT
675.1. NeoTrade |   Link |  Bookmark | January 7, 2016 2:12:38 AM
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Do you have sense of the pricing...please share with the boarders...
674. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 3:09:18 PM
JUST REPLIED TO EAGLE SOME MINUTES AGO THAT NOW THIS IS DANGEROUS LEVEL...SHORT TERM GUYS SHOULD BOOK OUT ...RISK REWARD RATIO NOT FAVORABLE FOR SHORT TERM GUYS...
673. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:46:31 PM
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pre-opening Volume traded – 19.29 lakh shares
10:00-10:30 Volume traded – 143.75 lakh shares
10:30-11:00 Volume traded – 39.89 lakh shares
11:00-11:30 Volume traded – 37.30 lakh shares
11:30-12:00 Volume traded – 15.27 lakh shares
12:00-12:30 Volume traded – 16.65 lakh shares
12:30-13:00 Volume traded – 24.11 lakh shares
13:00-13:30 Volume traded – 09.94 lakh shares
13:30-14:00 Volume traded – 27.27 lakh shares
14:00-14:30 Volume traded – 23.37 lakh shares
673.1. Hiren patel |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 6:04:43 PM
Thnk u so much egaleye sir.....apki sab infomation ryt thi.....ab to koi i.p.o nahi hai...but ap ate rahena chittorgarh me.....or gujrat auuu to dhokla khaake jaan....welcm too Gujrat
672. Montu S Vora |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:33:51 PM
Dear Uchit Patel,
As per your comments what will be the correct price than,.....
Regards,
Montu
672.1. Uchit Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 3:38:34 PM (500+ Posts, 1500+ Likes)
Less than 250
671. DCC |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:33:25 PM
Jay (Lakshmi) Narayana
Hamare hrudyalay ma aap sadaiv raho ge.

Happy listing.

Profit booked.

Enjoy....

Thank you all .
670. Chinmay Pattanayak |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:12:30 PM
People are purchasing in thousands where as seller like us are selling in lot of 60s only. There is huge demand. Check the link as per my last message it displays buy/sell queue.
670.1. Montu S Vora |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:28:49 PM
Good Analysis sirjee....that means Interglobe story is going to repeat...
670.2. Chinmay Pattanayak |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:36:19 PM
Looks like. Septaji, Eagleye and others were not completely wrong. I think price soared becaof local investor from Kolkata. They had provided generic information. If Kolkata investors or anyone keeps on demanding like this, then it would exceed InterGlobe as well. Just keep an eye on VWAP graph, as long as current price is more than VWAP, then don''t sell. It will keep on increasing till it reaches upper circuit.
669. Chinmay Pattanayak |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:09:51 PM
Check the link http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/stockpricequote/hospitals-medical-services/narayanahrudayalaya/NH . On left there is option of MARKET DEPTH. On mohove it displays numbers in buy and sell queue. Demand is more than double the supply. So hold on. Don''t sell. By doing so, it can reach upper circuit.
669.1. Allan |   Link |  Bookmark | January 7, 2016 12:28:10 PM (200+ Posts)
Immense thanks to @ Chinmay Pattanayak for this link.

Please can you throw some light on Numbers to look at especially to time Selling Stocks received via IPO. Lets assume the sell is higher than the Buy which would obviously trigger me to sell my holdings, what difference are we looking for at for such a trigger to happen any ball park figure would do. Lets say the sell is a few 100''s above the buy is it a good time for a short term buyer looking for listing gains to expert.

Also another link based on VWAP ....what difference between current market price and VWAP are we looking at. I noticed yesterday Current price was always higher than VWAP and today its the other way round, does this call for a sell today?

Please throw some light on how to handle this from a short term buyers perspective looking for listing gains.

Many thanks in advance.....!

Others with knowledge on the subject could also help

668. Vijay Singh Kochhar |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:09:33 PM
Analysts are bullish on Narayana Hrudayalaya initial public offering (IPO) though pricing is considered to be a bit expensive. The last IPO of the year will open on December 17 and close on December 21. Promoted by renowned cardiac surgeon Devi Shetty, the healthcare services major seeks to raise up to Rs 613 crore via the IPO.

The company has fixed the price band between Rs 245 and Rs 250 and includes an offer of sale of up to 2.45 crore equity shares representing 14.04 percent stake in the company by the promoters and other existing shareholders. Kiran Mazumdar Shaw holds 2.3 percent but is not selling via IPO. Post IPO, promoter holding will fall to 62.04 percent from 64.04 percent.

ICICIdirect.com advises to subscribe stating though it thinks valuation is a tad expensive, it is in line with the recent deals in the healthcare industry. It says that Narayana''s calibrated model for establishing and expanding its hospitals has allowed it to achieve a more efficient of capital than many of its peers.

"The company runs its business on an asright model, based on engaging with partners that invest in and own the fixed assets, primarily land and building while it invests and owns the medical equipment. It operates and manages the hospital, typically on a revenue share basis, with or without a minimum revenue guarantee given to its partners," it says in a note.

According to the brokerage, another reason to be positive about the sector is low demand-supply mismatch with a combination of macroeconomic factors (changing demographics, increasing affluence of the Indian population, greater health awareness, rising incomes, changes in the disease profile and rising penetration of health insurance) is likely to lead to an increase in demand for quality healthcare services.

Aditya Birla Money also recommends to subscribe the IPO for long term investors terming it ''one of its kind opportunity''. However, it addscurrent valuation leaves little room for short term investors to play for listing gains. The brokerage states that given experienced management team with a strong execution track record, reputed brand for clinical excellence and ability to attract high quality doctors, Narayana is well-positioned to capture market opportunities and to benefit from the expected growth in the healthcare services market in India.

"Narayana uses ''asright'' approach for expansion of their hospitals. It operates through a combination of models such as own and operate, revenue sharing, lease/rental basis and managed hospitals. The effective capital cost per bed of Rs 25.5 lakh as of March 31, 2015 which is much lower compared to a fully own and operate model," it says.

However, there are few concerns that Aditya Birla Money has raised. It says that Narayana''s plans to add 623 beds across two locations over the next 24 months exposes it to execution risks such as time and cost overruns. Also, it is heavily dependent on three key hospital to continue to generate higher revenues, which contribute around 58 percent the total revenues.

Its sales have grown at a CAGR of 30 percentwhile EBITDA has grown by a CAGR of 23 percent during FY11-FY15.

Narayana is involved in certain legal proceedings which are pending at different levels of adjudication which may materially affect business, financial condition, reputation and future prospects.

Hem Securities, however, is not impressed by the issue, recommending investors to avoid it. Hem Securities finds the IPO expensive at current levels though business model looks attractive. It points out that certain facilities from which company operate do not possess occupancy certificates or prior environmental clearance.

Analysts SP Tulsian also agrees that the issue can be avoided on On pure fundamental grounds due to lower size, smaller topline and poor margins of Narayana. He says Apollo Hospital looks like a muchstronger player with more attractive price.

The company operates 31 hospitals and 24 primary care facilities across India, with 5442 operational beds and the potential to reach a capacity of up to 6,602 beds. In FY15, its facilities have provided care to over 19.7 lakh patients. In FY15, it generated 90.7 percent of total revenues from 19 hospitals offering multispecialty and super specialty services, 7.3 percent from heart centres and the remaining from the management fee received from four managed hospitals, ancillary businesses and other standalone clinics and primary care facilities.

In FY15 it incurred a net loss of Rs 10.86 crore due to operations in Cayman Island and a revenue of Rs 1371.5 crore. Growth picked up pace in first half of FY16 as net profit stood at Rs 12.5 crore on a revenue of Rs 788.56 crore and margins at 11.7 percent. It has cash of Rs 44 crore. As of September 2015, its has a net debt of Rs 294 crore.

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667. Vijay Singh Kochhar |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:06:41 PM
The year was marked by a revival in IPO activity, thanks to a comeback by retail investors, who helped the primary issues sail through amid all the ups and downs in equity markets globally.

"Let us go back to 2003, when the Maruti IPO came. I believe it actually changed the mindof retail investors becathat was one company which they could relate to. That IPO delivered a very pleasant experience on the listing day and thereafter. My feeling is that some of the IPOs that came in 2015 acted on the retail psyche as much as the Maruti IPO did in 2003," Nilesh Shah, MD, Kotak AMC, said in a interview with ET Now.

However, the amount of money raised in the IPO market was less than one single large OFS of a pharma company floated during the calendar year, Shah said.

As many as 21 companies raised Rs 13,600 crore by going public during the year. This was the highest fundraising through primary market listings since 2010, when some Rs 37,534.65 crore was raised.

Among these IPOs, 20 got listed on the bourses this calendar while shares of Narayana Hrudayalaya are going to be listed in the first week of January. In 2014, six IPOs hit the market and collectively raised Rs 1,261 crore while only three got listed through the IPO route in 2013 and mobilised Rs 1,284 crore.

Retail participation in the market led mutual funds to infRs 70,000 crore in the equity market in 2015. Domestic mutual funds accounted for as much as 60 per cent of anchor investment in 15 IPOs this year, which was up to 30 per cent of the total issue size, Jimmy Patel, CEO of Quantum AMC, said in a note.

Calendar 2016 is expected to be an even bigger year for the IPO mart, with issues worth $5 billion lined up for the year. British telecom giant Vodafone too has revealed plans to list its Indian business on the bourses. HDFC Life is likely to float its IPO in the middle of 2016, becoming the first insurer to get listed on the bourses.

"We will have to sit with our partner Standard Life and decide the exact timing. The objective of both the JV partners is to come up with an IPO once the Standard Life transaction is completed and the year-end results are over.

Probably, the second half of calendar 2016 is when an issue looks possible?, said Keki Mistry, VC & CEO, HDFC in an interview to ET Now.
666. Chinmay Pattanayak |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:03:53 PM
As long as current price is more than VWAP, hold it. Don''t sell. Check this link for more information. http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/stockpricequote/hospitals-medical-services/narayanahrudayalaya/NH Click on VWAP below current price to get the detail. If it continues like this it may reach upper circuit.
665. Natvarsinh |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:50:49 PM (200+ Posts)
Cheersss...Touched 339.75......Hold for 400 in a day or two
664. Nasirul Choudhury |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:50:39 PM (400+ Posts)
Impressed by the listing gains. Though I didn''t expect a lot of loss as listings are managed a lot but I wasn''t expecting such a huge gain on listing. Although I wouldn''t have applied seeing Karvy as registrar I apologize if someone didn''t apply relying on my message.
663. Chinmay Pattanayak |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:50:17 PM
Approaching upper circuit. Enjoyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
662. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:47:26 PM
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I was looking at this data on NSE ... is it any useful?

pre-opening Volume traded – 19.29 lakh shares
10:00-10:30 Volume traded – 143.75 lakh shares
10:30-11:00 Volume traded – 39.89 lakh shares
11:00-11:30 Volume traded – 37.30 lakh shares
11:30-12:00 Volume traded – 15.27 lakh shares
12:00-12:30 Volume traded – 16.65 lakh shares
12:30-13:00 Volume traded – 24.11 lakh shares
13:00-13:30 Volume traded – 09.94 lakh shares
662.1. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:18:44 PM
it means if any one is short term based he should book out....this can now go any way....for others hold till budget....volumes disappearing but price still can be fixed...this will now be gamble...not for weakhearted and short term guys
662.2. satish krs |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 2:39:36 PM
Dear Eagleye

advise me hold or sell at CMP 340????????
661. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:42:40 PM
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Sidni sai baba
660. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:41:09 PM
AHAHAHAHA...EVEN LAL IS RISING TODAY...LOL..5 % UP...........ANY CONNECTIONS?????????//IM BUYING ALKEM NOW TOO
659. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:41:00 PM
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sold 180 shares at 308/
jai ho Said baba ki..
658. Rajurajkamal |   Link |  Bookmark | January 6, 2016 1:37:40 PM
how to apply for SME IPO''s? any idea?