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Narayana Hrudayalaya Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 29)

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197. sharad |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 8:43:14 AM
What''s an expert view should we apply or no if yes then let me know
197.1. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 9:17:48 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
LISTEN TO OHERS HENCE DO NOT APPLY YOU FOOL
197.2. Abbey IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 10:55:25 AM
Calling Dilip Davda sir''s advice taking into consideration the present scenario acknowledging the present subscription numbers. Apply or Miss?
196. Abbey IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 8:05:14 AM
Guys what happens if the issue does not get subscribed completely....
1.Reduction in price band?
2.Shift of quota to other groups?
3.Allocation of retail discount?
4.Call back ?
196.1. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 8:07:45 AM
this will happen only in retail. by end of day other categories will get oversubscribed and this will sail through
196.2. Thiagarajan Ramasamy |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 10:32:02 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (700+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
QIB already subscribed 4 times. Poor response from HNI is a dampener. Overall 1.38. A Dark Horse.
195. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 7:52:43 AM
applied full application in 3 accounts....massive spike on cards...this will be indigo...FIIs & domestic big pockets will buy this stock heavily...275-280 listing minimum
194. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 7:27:37 AM
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APPLY FOR LISTING GAINS APPLIED FOR 2 APPLICATION INSTEAD OF 6 USUAL APPLICATION

WATING FOR REFUND TODAY
193. Bolo tara ra ra |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 7:04:03 AM
Beware investors
Barbaad kar dega yeh investors ko
Loot Koot to happen.
Long term main usase bhi badi loot koot.

Money saved is money earned. Dont apply. Avoid
193.1. AZAD |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 8:04:10 AM
BEST HOSPITAL BEST STAFF BEST RETURN
192. V R TINDWANI |   Link |  Bookmark | December 21, 2015 5:53:11 AM
Any expert pl guide about narayan issue
191. jagadish abbigeri |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 8:02:51 PM
spare ur money for upcoming good ipos DTDC, ITL, Teamlease..
191.1. Chintan Thaker |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 8:47:44 PM
When can we expect these IPOs ???
191.2. jagadish abbigeri |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 9:10:25 PM
In early 2016, may b jan r feb ''16
190. Bolo tara ra ra |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 7:50:09 PM
So plz apply and go long term..

Yeh IPO sabko long term kar dega
189. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 3:48:09 PM
Narayan will surprise all...just see...will list at great premium....so many stocks are expensive in secondary market...does not matter...will give 2k per application
188. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 3:44:14 PM
applied for 2 lac
187. RSquare |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 1:15:10 PM
Eagleye
Here in Jaipur buyer for Rs.6/-.
Appl buyer @ 350/-

What is the sense in selling application. After brokerage and demat charges we will get Rs. 300/- profit.

Any if at bymistake the share lists high I will pay Income tax also. If I keep my application open, there is a serious threat of getting listed in discount.

So I am avoiding now.
186. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 12:35:54 PM
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Activity in Grey Market is now in full swing ... the reason given is that HNIs are now confident that they will be able the refund from Alkem & Dr. Lal ... for applying for Narayana Hrudayalaya IPO

GMP is inching upwards ... heavy volumes changing hands (just now) @8/- per share
186.2. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 1:13:59 PM
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Even if refund is credited on 22nd ... HNI can still submit application on 21st ...

Problem will be only for ASBA applicants (ie Retail) ... as discussed before also SEBI does not care for Retail ...

Alkem GMP approx 250 (no Sauda)
Dr. Lal GMP approx 135 (no Sauda)
186.3. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 9:27:32 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
yes it cheque however this will change from jan 2016...
185. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 12:28:37 PM
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Narayana Hrudayalaya GMP 5-7 per Share (actively traded with big volumes)
184. Vinaya |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 11:40:39 AM
They keep on saying affordable health care ,then they should have priced their ipo reasonably priced.
Prior to IPO promoters got generous bonus shares ,may be sweat equity, however we the retail investors sweat more than them for each and every penny, be careful while investing in greedy ipos ,as promised not even given retail discount as promised initially, promoters once greedy always greedy and those who talk and not walk the talk, then corporate governance issue will also creeps up!
183. RAHUL BHORIYA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 10:18:23 AM
Respected frnds i m new commers in share market may j know how much profit jn narayana haudalyala.i have 10 demat account how much j can get in 1 Application
182. Anurag |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 10:14:14 AM
Please tell me minimum application amount 15000 or 14700
181. pinkyjain |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 8:41:31 AM
Apply for listing gain
181.2. RAKA GANGAPUR |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 12:27:01 PM
I was also bullish regarding Listing Gain In this IPO, But now worried becanow There is no Grey Premium even people are talking that it may list at Discount.
For Long term view also it doesn''t look good, even Capital Market has given comment that Good for Patients but worse for investors.
Now I am Confused, what to do ????
181.3. Septa |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 9:32:23 PM (4000+ Posts, 4600+ Likes)
If you not confident then best is to avoid i like this company but pricing is very very steep compare to apollo and fortis.... better option apollo
180. VALUE INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | December 20, 2015 7:14:41 AM (900+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
Other side of Issue Narayana Hrudayalaya IPO
Average cost to the promoters is only Rs 0.017 (Less than 1 Paise)
NAV Rs. 38.24 & Offer price Rs. 245 to 250
It is offer for sale, no funds coming to the company No Discount to retailers
On Consolidated basis, its priced at 200 Plus PE RONW Negative, P/BV 6.5 times
Considering high volumes low margin business it is risky bet


" The average cost of acquisition of Equity shares by promoter Dr. Devi Prasad shetty and shankuntla Shetty is only Rs. 0.017 (Less than 1 Paisa), NAV is 382.4 & Offer price is Rs. 245 to 250
" Company posted loss in year of 2015
" The company having issued initial capital at par during 2000 and 2001 and then issued 75414 equity share of Rs. 10 each at a price of Rs. 53040.55 per share in February 2008 and 20339 shares at a price of Rs. 98336.27 in December 2014. It also issued bonus in the ratio of 577.45 shares for every 1 share held in March 2015 and then converted OCDs into 4360804 equity shares at a price of Rs. 244.67 per share in December 2015. Its current paid up equity is at Rs. 204.36 Cr.
" Discount to retail investors that was planned while filing DRHP is missing.
" P/BV ratio 6.53 times which is very high
" RONW in FY 15 remained -1.42 % (Negative) even in first half of current year it was lower in comparison of year 2014.
" As this being offer for sale, no funds are coming to the company
" Net Profit merging at less than 3 % is very poor
" The current issue (12% of the post offe capital) values the company at Rs. 5000 Cr. 3 times to its estimated revenues for FY 16. This is the lower than valuation commanded by Apollo Hospital, Which valued at 3.6 times of its annualized FY 16 revenue
Remarks : If we annualize these and attribute to the existing equity capital of Rs. 204.36 crore, the EPS will be around Rs. 1.22 and thus the issue is at a P/E of around 200 plus. Its peers (although not comparable on strict norms and business model of NHL) trading at a P/E of around (55) Apollo Hospital, (17) Fortis Malar, (23) Kovai Medical etc. The basic difference between all peers and NHL is the business mix. While others have Premium verses General ratio of 75:25, NHL has the reverse one i.e. 25:75 as it believes in growth via volumes at affordable pricing and is the most preferred partner for many NGOs for the said cause.
Recommendation :- IPO pricing is the main concern It’s a Risky bet

Source: smartinvestment.in
179. AUMVAYU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 19, 2015 10:13:37 PM
After reading all major analysts, I just want ur valuable opinion vote that what r u believe by brain weather NH listing open n stay wid gain or not?
Just ans.. As " listing gain" or " listing loss"
We will b meet here on listing date.
My personal opinion vote is "listing gain"
What''s ur?
178. sailesh bohra |   Link |  Bookmark | December 19, 2015 10:08:09 PM
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