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297. SAHIL GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 7:33:39 PM
Narayana listing will be bigger than Alkem and Dr.Lal. Its complete healthcare group and not just one segment like pathlab or pharmaceutical.
My long term target for Narayana Hrudayalaya is Rs.500++. Listing day closing around Rs.340/- to 350/- for sure.
297.1. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 24, 2015 8:08:54 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Dear Sir,

May I request you to kindly elaborate how you have arrived at your long term target for Narayana Hrudayalaya as Rs.500++.

And also on what basis have you predicted that the Listing day closing will be around Rs.340/- to 350/- for sure.

I only ask so that I may learn some more about this business, I hope you do not mind my silly questions.
296. starripo |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 6:40:20 PM
Mr loooot koooot seems already in NH for precautionary check up......
296.1. M Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 10:35:44 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 3100+ Likes)
DearStarIpo
This is my last message on NH. I have squarely said many times that I am of the firm opinion that This will Koooot and Looooot all the investors. But since I have not applied in this IPO and the IPO has closed also, I can not come again and again over this site.
Dear sir, you are very learned Investor... but you conveniently forget every time that my looooooooot and koooooooot messages are for bogus IPOs only (Like NH). I never quote this type of thning for good IPOs (Including ALKEM, Dr LAL or INDIGO).. You can check your self.
All my messages are for bad companies like Monte Karlo, 2 three other bogus companies, NH etc.. that also you can check..

Here I once again warn all of you that NH will kt u NH will llllllllooooot u..

Listing par sabki khat khadi ho jawegi... (Per bed (khat) Rs. 1 crore)

Star Maharaj... Grey Premium par na jaoo... apani akal lagao.... verna ..

THIS WILL KOOOT U...
THIS WILL LOOOT U...


296.2. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | December 24, 2015 3:55:57 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 2700+ Likes)
HE HAS GONE MAD
295. Viraj |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 6:01:16 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
very good listing today alkem & lal so expected countinu in much more next ipo
294. Udit |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 5:52:36 PM
Heathcare Global IPO


Issue open 4st January 2016
Issue closes 6th January 2016

Price band 152-157
Lot Size 90
Issue size 498Cr.
294.2. ASHIS KUMAR SWAIN |   Link |  Bookmark | December 24, 2015 12:14:06 PM
sorry for the comment it is monday.
294.3. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 24, 2015 11:22:17 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Has this been formally announced?

Could you guide me to an official source ... so that I may verify this information?

It is not that I question your integrity ... I just wanted to be double sure.
293. ASHIS KUMAR SWAIN |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 4:10:03 PM
please tell me the exact premium of narayana.
292. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 3:13:22 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Narayana Hrudayalaya GMP 23-24 per Share (last quoted)

NH - yet to open GMP trade for today - lets see how it behaves after today''s listings
291. Vaibhav |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 12:40:57 PM
NH is not bad, even company is standalone is in profit, but subsidiaries are in loss and hence finally company turns down in losses. And regarding pricing, pricing is high if issue is at 200 I would have definitely apply.
290. Vaibhav |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:43:29 AM
Fundamentally good IPO sustain even when market crash. Look at vrl logistics.
290.1. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:58:45 AM
IF YOU ARE KEEN ON GOOD FUNDAMENTAL COMPANIES, HOW CAN YOU SAY NH IS RISKY...DOESNT NH HAVE ANY FUNDAMENTALS IN PLACE?
290.2. Anu |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 1:43:09 PM
Bekar ipo

Discount listing
289. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:33:14 AM
ONE OF NICE ARTICLE ON NH WHICH PROMPTED ME TO APPLY


Dr .Devi Prasad Shetty (born 8 May 1953) is an Indian philanthropist and a cardiac surgeon. He has leveraged economies of scale to provide affordable healthcare. He was awarded the Padma Shri, the fourth highest civilian award, in 2004, followed by the Padma Bhushan, the third highest civilian award, in 2012, by the Government of India for his contribution to the field of affordable healthcare
In Kolkata he operated on Mother Teresa after she had a heart attack and subsequently served as her personal physician. After some time, he moved to Bangalore and started the Manipal Heart Foundation at Manipal Hospitals, Bangalore. Financial contribution for the construction of the hospital was provided by Shetty’s father-in-law.
He has performed over 15,000 heart operations till 2010.
His hospitals have reduced costs by taking advantage of the economies of scale, this allows them to complete heart surgeries for a tenth of the cost in the United States.
The Wall Street Journal has given him the title of Henry Ford of heart surgery.

Short note about the Company ( Detailed analysis on Valuation by Paresh Gordhandas is at the bottom of the page )
Founded in the year 2000 by cardiac surgeon Devi Prasad Shetty, Narayana Hrudayalaya has a network of 23 hospitals, 8 heart centres and 24 primary care facilities across 31 cities, towns and villages in Karnataka and eastern India, besides an emerging presence in Central and Western India. It has 5,442 operational beds and the potential to reach a capacity of up to 6,602 beds. The company provided healthcare to over 1.97 million patients in FY15 and employs over 11,000 people including doctors, paramedical staff and others.

The healthcare company is now entering the Capital market

Selling Shareholders : Ashoka Investment Holdings Ltd (up to 62,87,978 shares), Ambadevi Mauritius Holding Ltd (up to 18,86,455 shares) JP Morgan Mauritius Holdings IV Ltd (up to 1,22,61,648 shares), among others. Promoters Devi Prasad Shetty and Shakuntala Shetty are selling 20,43,608 shares each.
The offer constitutes 12 per cent of the post issue share capital.
IPO Particulars
Opens on December 17, 2015
Closed on December 21, 2015
Offer for sale of up to 2,45,23,297 shares
Issue size : Rs. 613 crores at upper end of the price band
Price Band : Rs. 240-250 per share
Bid Size : 60 Shares and multiple of 60 shares thereafter
Listing proposed at NSE & BSE
Valuation Analysis Apparently the IPO price band is on higher side, say at 200 PE ratio but another aspect is that topline of the company is growing at very very high rate and half of its hospitals are still below maturity period of 5 years. Once that period is crossed, these hospitals also earn strong returns and will change Net profit and Earnings per share. More of in poor country like India, affordable healthcare will always be welcome feature and will be the longest surviving company. and for that reason, more valuation can be given to this share.
one more aspect that through this IPO , you will be doing investment as well as philanthropic work.
Donot forget this noble aspect. and … also understand that Stockmarkets always value such philanthropic aspects, what matter the IPO pricing is.

288. star ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:30:18 AM
Just in....mr.loooot koooot booked a birth in advance in NH for possible great listing of NH....
287. Vaibhav |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:26:45 AM
People who are giving fundamental view they are really good people.
286. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:24:32 AM
LOL.............ALL TECHNICAL ANALYSIS, PE, PROFITS GONE FOR A TOSS.....THIS IS WHAT MARKETS ARE....
285. Vaibhav |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:23:24 AM
You can''t judge listing of 1 IPO with another. NH is highly dangerous IPO
285.1. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:27:18 AM
EVERYTHING IS DANGEROUS FRIEND IN MARKET...DID ANY 1 THOUGH NEARLY 800 FOR LAL....AT 550 EVERYONE WAS SAYING ITS COSTLY..EVEN ON TV CHANNELS NOT TO SUBSCRIBE...AND SEE NOW...
284. SAHIL GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:21:49 AM
Narayana Hrudayalaya premium up now to R.90/- per share due to bumper listing of Alkem and Dr.lal
284.1. P JOSEPH |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:57:37 AM
Narayana is "no comparison"with Alkem or Dr. Lal. There will not be any marked gain. It may pick up only after wiping out all the losses incurred. It may take minimum two to 3 years.
283. Ipochamp |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:12:36 AM
Loot and koot wale log kaha gaye. ye pinky jain hai sabse farzi
283.1. Ipochamp |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:14:44 AM
ye pinky jain ne indigo ke liye mana kiya and sabko loss karwayaa
282. Seller |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 10:07:56 AM
Hi All,
Please answer my question.
1. What the process to Sell IPO application ?
2. I do not want to take much risk, rather I would prefer to sell my app irrespective of any IPO.
3. I hold demat Account with ICICDirect.com

Many Thanks
Seller
281. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 9:53:35 AM
WHAT A DEBUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT..........................NH NOW YOUR TURN...........
280. HNI or NII investor |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 9:39:56 AM
NH PREMIUM shoots up. Current price 28 / 30... stock likely to open at a premium of Rs 80... rs 250 + 80 = 330. Massive short coverings in grey markets, after the openings of Alkem and Dr. Lal Path labs. . Grey operators not giving proper sell quotes in Ahmedabad. Heavy loss for grey operators in Dr. Lal Path lab and Alkem as expected price was Rs 240/ 250 for Alkem and 115/120 for Dr Lal. Instead opened nearly Rs 100 higher for Alkem and rs 110 higher for Dr. PATH LAB. Full market depth settlement between 12 to 1.00 p.m. but short covering started.
280.2. SHAMBU |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 10:02:50 AM
IF NH OPENS AT 330 ...LOL.....THIS WILL TRULY BE HAPPY NEW YEAR..


ANYWAYS CONGRATS TO ALL LAL AND ALKEM GUYS ...BOTH HAVE BEEN SANTA FOR RETAIL GUYS....
280.3. Eagleye |   Link |  Bookmark | December 24, 2015 9:55:11 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Today I also heard some Market Whispers ... NH to list @330-335
... but please remember that there are at least 5-7 trading days before listing ... so things can change

... caveat emptor !!
279. Ou Ai |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 8:20:00 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Eagle Eye , the hypothesis of derived average of 42 , if applied for 10 applications of 60 with 7 allotments in the event of allotment ratio 7 :10 is logically right, but factually wrong. You can never predict whether one will get 1 or 2 or even 10 allotments as this follows theory of probability in mathematics and not simple average. This is true only if the 7:10 is applied in draw of lots on one bunch of 10 applications applied in different names by same one individual. However, this is not the case. All applications will be mixed up and a computerized random allotment system is followed by considering each application separately with bunches mixed up in the total lot.
Therefore in Alkem Labs, one saw that few who applied 6 to 7 applications did not get even one of them allotted whereas few who applied were lucky enough to get all 6 allotted though allotment was ratio happened to be almost 1:2.
This is a clarification that higher number of applications definitely increase the hit rate, but not necessarily in the same ratio of allotment to number applications made by an individual. I am trying to dispel this myth.
279.2. Ou Ai |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 10:40:13 AM
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Process of allotment has nothing do with micro or macro. It is a mere allotment process and factual. It is better investors understand this and take their, rather than basing it on artificially created grey market and its so called macros.

279.3. P JOSEPH |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 11:59:59 AM
Dear friend,

No chance for NH. I also applied for NH - only minimum 60. I know that it is a loss-making company. It may take 2 to 3 years to wipe out all the losses incurred till now.
278. Hariprasad |   Link |  Bookmark | December 23, 2015 12:34:24 AM
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/ipo-upcoming-issues/matrimonycomquick-heal-get-nod-for-iposto-raise-rs-1k-cr_4686601.html

Matrimony.com,Quick Heal get nod for IPOs