with current listing trend of Alkem & Lal, momentum would surely be positive only. I guess, it can never be below offer price.......for sure. It''s simple logic
Share premium rate 32 is for firm commitment for quantity
Kostak 600 is for application premium whether share alotted or not
332.2. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 25, 2015 1:10:51 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
I called 3 out of the 6 BRLMs of Healthcare Global Enterprises Ltd. and all 3 informed me that there is no decision on the dates as of now...
I can only conclude that pinkyjain''s news is not true ... she is a story teller ... and that too a very bad story teller ... hereafter I will not bother to even read what she has to say
Eagleye is correct...HCG dates not confirmed as some long only investors are holding some lengthy discussions to participate which is holding up the launch!
if NH has to list on 4 ( as per eagel companies internal target) NH issue closed on 21 cheque debited on 24 allotment:30 or 31 refund, isin, credit of shares(approx. 2 days) : 1 & 2 jan listing 4 jan
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December 24, 2015 11:35:53 PM
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May you please reiterate, what was your opinion for the past few IPOs.... particularly for Dr. Lal & Alkem ??
I believe that ... If your advise for those 2 were correct ... only then will you generate the confidence of people to follow your advise for NH or any other IPO in the future ... if not, then people will disregard you ... It takes a lot of effort to establish credibility.
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December 25, 2015 1:20:34 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Would I be out of line if I expected you to be courteous enough to respond to my question ?
Still I am Failure to Understand that How People are changing their view on NH ?
Now everyone is hoping that it will be next Hidden Gem like Indigo/ Black horse/ bla bla. How people predict this thing, it is out of my Mind.
If you compare NH with it''''''''''''''''s peers then you will find that Apollo and Indraprastha Hospital are in Much better position, if you think that NH will be 400/450+ then you note that Apollo will be 2000+ and Indraprastha will be 200+ and this looks almost impossible.
Narayana is a Good Hospital and providing Class facility at affordable price to masses but for investor point of view where everybody expects good Gain then Narayana is not a Good choice.
May be Grey Market is giving 31-33 Rs Premium, it is becaof short covering only. Investors should be cautious during listing and should try to exit as they get Gains, it is not going to be mega hit. In case of Dr Lal also it is a totally Operator base game now, becanow at 900 Rs the valuation has become high, I am not suggesting/Advising you to exit it becaafter all it is a Gamble (Satta) Market where Valuations and all Financial things doesn''''''''t matter. One should his Goal and Once it achieved he should immediately Exit. Just Remember listing of Inox Wind, It was listed at Rs 405 as against the issue price of 310 Rs, went to 480 Rs within week and Now struggling to Get again Listing Price, becait was overvalued. so do not lock your Valuable money in Such type of Script.
raka , you have partially answered the question in your reply...NH seems to be candidate which "will not be allowed to fall" by few strong hands...this is after looking at lal......so to sum it up this counter will be managed
326.1. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 24, 2015 10:23:26 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
"Healthcare Global Enterprises Limited" has still not circulated its RHP ...
and in that case ... I was wondering ...
1) Can the IPO dates be officially announced before the RHP is ready? 2) Does the Grey Market start trading before the IPO dates are formally announced?
I hope you will not mind replying to my silly questions.
326.2. Eagleye| Link| Bookmark|
December 24, 2015 11:06:52 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Unless of course .... you are claiming that you have the information about the Price Band and the IPO dates .. even before the RHP is printed
Once you get a sebi nod you need to file RHP with ROC take necessary approval.
The price band are decided with Lead Bankers. The operators start buying application before official dates are announced For Eg. Nakar Corp Alkem etc Operators buy application at any rates and try to create buzz in the market to make its fancy.
This is normal practice. Healthcare likely to come in first week.
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December 25, 2015 1:15:50 PM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Dear pinkyjain,
I called 3 out of the 6 BRLMs of Healthcare Global Enterprises Ltd. and all 3 informed me that there is no decision on the dates as of now...
Can you please tell us where have you sourced your information from ? or have you just been weaving a yarn ?
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January 2, 2016 9:37:57 AM
IPO Guru (6600+ Posts, 21900+ Likes)
Still I am Failure to Understand that How People are changing their view on NH ?
Now everyone is hoping that it will be next Hidden Gem like Indigo/ Black horse/ bla bla. How people predict this thing, it is out of my Mind.
If you compare NH with it''s peers then you will find that Apollo and Indraprastha Hospital are in Much better position, if you think that NH will be 400/450+ then you note that Apollo will be 2000+ and Indraprastha will be 200+ and this looks almost impossible.
Narayana is a Good Hospital and providing Class facility at affordable price to masses but for investor point of view where everybody expects good Gain then Narayana is not a Good choice.
May be Grey Market is giving 31-33 Rs Premium, it is becaof short covering only. Investors should be cautious during listing and should try to exit as they get Gains, it is not going to be mega hit. In case of Dr Lal also it is a totally Operator base game now, becanow at 900 Rs the valuation has become high, I am not suggesting/Advising you to exit it becaafter all it is a Gamble (Satta) Market where Valuations and all Financial things doesn''t matter. One should his Goal and Once it achieved he should immediately Exit. Just Remember listing of Inox Wind, It was listed at Rs 405 as against the issue price of 310 Rs, went to 480 Rs within week and Now struggling to Get again Listing Price, becait was overvalued. so do not lock your Valuable money in Such type of Script.
The so called experts brigade has been proved wrong in interglobe and dr.pathlab IPO .now in NH also they will be proved wrong and people following them blindly will have no other option to curse themselves.all the IPOs which are having unique business models or are running next gen businesses always garner market fancy and thus command premium valuations so don''t judge them by PE ratio
I am 100% confident that listing will be above Rs.300/- and it will touch high of Rs.350/- withing 2-3 days of listing.
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December 24, 2015 8:38:40 PM
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Since past 2 days you have been more aggressive with your predictions about NH, you had said "Listing day closing around Rs. 340/- to 350/- for sure" ....
Do you have any new inputs that has reduced your enthusiasm for NH ??
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December 24, 2015 7:39:40 PM
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