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150. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 2:25:46 PM (300+ Posts)
I expect it to list around 215. However, unexptedly if it falls below issue price of 175 or if it opens lower than issue price, one needs to exit with immediate effect.

It is a fast-growing company. It gives loan with gold as collateral for high interest rate ranging from 20% to 30%. If the borrower can't repay, sell their gold to recover. Gold is easy to sell in open market unlike other assets like home, car, etc.

Drops Pre-Placement & Retail Discount, Rejigs Valuations

http://www.seasonalmagazine.com/2011/04/muthoot-ipo-drops-pre-placement-retail.html

It has a PAT margin of 20%+. If one considers FY 2010 PAT (Rs 227.58 crore) and pre-IPO equity of 32.02 crore shares, the EPS works out to be 7.11. The PE ratio would be 24.62.

Manappuram Finance is trading at 43.70 times FY 2010 earnings.
149. hari HanamKonda |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 1:12:15 PM
Total      43775000      9870520      0.23
148. vas nat |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 10:33:26 AM (200+ Posts)
Sandeep,Jaipur

The promoters acquiring shares at low rate with bonus, preferential allotment etc is common and justifies for all the risk & pain taken by them.

I was only wondering as to why anchor investors were getting at Rs.5/- lesser but was clarified by Vishal that they have to pay the differential amount in case the issue price is fixed higher.

The Business model is good and pricing is reasonable. I am applying in full.
147. Sandeep ,Jaipur |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 10:09:16 AM
- The average price of promoters� each share each share is Rs. 0.57, book value is Rs. 19 and offer price is Rs. 160/175 -The company had issued bonus shares to its promoters on October 21, 2008 in ratio of 1:7 beside it had again issued bonus share to its promoters on August 29, 2009 in ratio of 7:36 shares

-The company had issued 2 crore shares to some institutions on preferential basis at Rs. 123/133

-The company is compelled to maintain its CAR at 15 % as per RBI�s latest guidelines, at present the CAR is 15.06 % which is on border and its growth can be impacted negative if this rate decline further -The hike in interest rate is the main challenge for this company

-The cash flow of the company was remained negative during last three years The core business of the company is to provide finance on gold, but it has to face very stiff competition from� unorganized financiers who are also engaged in this business

Remark: - Both rating agency ICRA and CRISIL has awarded 4/5 rating to its IPO indicating better fundamentals than average. The company had registered 74 % CAGR growth during FY 2006 to FY 2009 thanks to price hike of gold. The company has posted the net profit of Rs. 228 crore on turnovers of Rs. 1089 crore achieving yearly EPS of Rs. 7.59 for the FY 2009-10 ended on March 31, 2010. Beside it had also registered the net profit of Rs. 291 crore on turnover of Rs. 1301 crore for the first eight months ended on November 2010 indicating very strong financial fundamentals.

Recommendation: - At present this company can only be compared with Mannapuram General Finance.

The share of Muthoot Finance is offered with 13 PE, based on estimated EPS of Rs. 14 of FY 2011, The P/BV is worked out at Rs. 2.92x based on estimated book value of Rs. 60 whereas the share of Mannapuram General Finance is offered at Rs. 129 with 16.5 PE based on estimated EPS of Rs. 8 of FY 2011 and its P/BV is worked out at 2.7.
146. Sandeep ,Jaipur |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 10:07:28 AM
The other side of Muthoot Finance

The average price of promoters each share each share is Rs. 0.57,

Book value is Rs. 19 and offer price is Rs. 160/175

The company had issued bonus share to its promoters twice in ratio of 1:44,

The company has issued 2 crore share to various institutions at Rs. 123/133

Increased interest rate, new norms of CAR, negative cash flow during last three years,

Stiff competition from unorganized sector is some risky factor

Turnover, profit, market cap and RONW are double compared to its peer companies, outlook positive
145. pakka hindustani |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 10:06:11 AM
Futureventures opening on 25th and closing on 28th April ( For QIB closing on 27th). Issue price Rs 10 to Rs 11 , face value Rs 10.
So many IPO's coming together, I wonder how to manage funds for all these.
144. Fools brooker |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 9:57:10 AM
freinds pl understand the rules of ASBA

firstly if you are appling online in the sites like hdfcsec, icicidirect,religare, etc they have an fixed software where they donot alter as per the new gudlines because it is costly for them to upgrade their softerware and may be due to security reasons unless most of the public fight with SEBI to apply as per the gudie lines of sebi
if you are appling ofline by filling forms of ASBA in site of nse or BSE then you can apply in one saving account 5 diffrent applications in demat number your pan number should be 5 diffrent names with 5 diffrent demant numbers
this is as per sebi guide lines to all banks who are asba banks in your town
143. Fools brooker |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 8:47:43 AM
FINANCIAL ANALYSY 143

YOU DO NOT KNOW ABC OF BANKING WHY ARE YOU USING BIG NAME LIKE FINANCIAL ANALYSTS AND MISGUDING PUBLIC IN FOURM I HAVE SEEN GIVING WRONG ADVICE IN IPOS AND MISGUDING PUBLIC IN THE NAME OF FINANCIAL ANANALYSTS
AT LEAST YOU GIVE THE ANALISY OF INNOVENTIVE INDUSTIES AS NOW BODY HAS WRITTEN ABOUT IT TILL NOW IF YOU ARE REAL FINANCIAL ANALYSTS
142. financialanalyst |   Link |  Bookmark | April 19, 2011 12:54:27 AM
Hello Friends,

Thanks for the inputs but still their seems to be confusion as somebody is saying that option is not available for Kotak bank but available for other banks, doesn't this rule applies to all the banks??

Thanks and Regards,
FinancialAnalyst.
141. Binns |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 11:38:14 PM
can one apply two different applications (for two different persons) through HDFC ASBA like it was possible in SBI ASBA?
140. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 10:42:20 PM
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ASBA FORMS ARE ACCEPTED BY HDFC BANK YOU CAN APPLY WITH SHAREKHAN DEMAT BUT THE SHARES HAVE TO BE SOLD FROM SHAREKHAN IF ALLOTMENT IS DONE OR ANY OTHER BROKER IF YOU HAVE SLIP TO TRANSFER THE SHARES
YOUR PAN NUMBER IS IMPORTANT AND DEMAT NUMBER AND PROPER NAME AS PER PAN DETAILS
IF YOU HAVE STILL DOUBT APPLY FOR RS 7000 ONLY GET SATISFIED AND THEN APPLY FOR 2 LAKHS
BUT TO ME NAME DEMATNUMBER AND PAN NUMBER IS IMPORTANT NOT ADDRESS
139. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 10:28:55 PM
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as per the ASBA rules you can apply for 5 diffrent demat account in one saving account
but the first name of demat account should be diffrent for example as you said 1) father 2)mother3)wife 4)children 5)sister
rember that you have to have clear balance in account ie you can fund up to 10 lakhs in five accounts maximum and minimum 175*40 =7000 per demat account
pl write you saving account in only 5 forms and 5 diffrent demat ac tell the clerk to accept the forms or speak to head office of kotak bank in mumbai demat number and pan number is important
all banks in ASBA list will accept your forms
138. Bj |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 9:48:49 PM
The news of falling gmp perhaps are intentional rumours so that the subscription levels are lower !!!
137. Gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 9:41:52 PM
Muthoot Finance IPO: What experts recommend:-

(A)HSBC has advised investors to 'Subscribe'for listing benefits as well as long-term gains.

"We feel Muthoot Finance has few concerns over gold price fluctuation and RBI policy norms, however, it leverages on strong NIM margins, better asset quality, attractive ROE and ROA followed by a reputed brand name with the management's expertise, which balances the cart.

Muthoot Finance is the highest credit rated gold loan company in India, with a credit rating of AA- (CRISIL) for its long-term debts and P1+ (CRISIL) and A1+ (ICRA) for its short-term debt instruments.


(B) Prabhudas Lilladher is of the view that initial public offering of Muthoot Finance is available at reasonable valuations. It has advised clients to 'Subscribe' to the IPO.

"MFL is well poised to tap the strong growth opportunities in the rapidly growing gold loan market, given its robust distribution strength and strong brand. MFL is expanding its footprint by diversifying its presence into the non-Southern regions.

Although return ratios are likely to compress in the near term on account of capital raising, we expect it to still remain higher compared to other financing companies (we expect RoEs to remain in the region of 25-30% in the medium term).

Moreover, despite steep asset growth witnessed in the past (72.4% CAGR for MFL during FY07-10 v/s industry CAGR of 43%), we expect MFL to continue to outpace industry growth. Valuations remain reasonable, we recommend 'Subscribe'," the report said.


(C) GEPL Capital has advised investors to 'Subscribe' to initial public offering of Muthoot Finance with a medium to long term perspective.

"MFL is a market leader in its segment. It has had an average RONW of 39% which is far better than its competitor (19.61% for Manappuram). The company has major global PE firms invested in it; namely Matrix Partners India Investments LLC, Baring India Private Equity Fund III Limited and The Wellcome Trust Limited.

At the upper and lower ends of IPO price band of Rs160-Rs.175, MFL is available at a P/E of 11.72x and 12.82x respectively as compared to 22.73x for Manappuram.

Considering robust GDP growth of India, increasing purchasing power and ever-growing appetite for gold, the company looks well poised for a sound growth trajectory in the years to come.


(D)SPA Securities has advised investors to 'Subscribe' to the initial public offering of Muthoot Finance.

"MFL, being the largest gold loan provider in the country, would likely grow in line with the industry growth and we expect it to post an EPS of INR 14.81 and ABV of INR 50.19 for FY11E. This makes it trade at 12x and 3.5x its P/E and P/ABV at higher price band.

As compared to its listed peer, MFL fares better on it Return on Equity largely due to leverage differential on the balance sheet among both the companies. Having the benefit of sheer size, we believe MFL deserves a better multiple on its book value. However, we believe the current pricing captures the likely growth of MFL, we recommend "SUBSCRIBE',"

(E)Ajcon Global has recommended clients to 'Subscribe' to the initial public offering of Muthoot Finance for listing gains.

"We believe the stock valuation of P/BV - 3.2x at the upper end of the price band of Rs 175 is justified, because of the following reasons,

a) MFL being the market leader in gold financing business,

b) Early mover advantage in gold financing business and strong brand in southern India,

c) Strong fund raising capabilities at competitive rates,

d) Diversifying presence in northern and western parts of the country,


(F)Fair Wealth Equity Research has advised investors to 'Subscribe' to initial public offering of Muthoot Finance. It expects the stock to give 15-20 per cent gains on listing.

The company has entered the primary market to raise between Rs 824 crores to Rs 901 crores by issuing shares in the price-band of Rs 160-175 per share.

"Considering the P/E valuation, the stock is priced at pre issue P/E of 16.5x on the lower end and 18.1x on the higher end of its annualized FY11 EPS of 9.67. Post issue, at the price of Rs 160 and Rs 175, the stock discounts its FY11 annualized earnings (a share of Rs. 10) by 19.2x and 21.0x respectively.

Hence, considering attractive valuations and the strong earnings growth potential, we recommend investors to subscribe this issue. We expect gain of 15%-20% on its listing," the report said.


(G)Sharekhan is of the view that at the upper band of the price-band, the initial public offering of Muthoot Finance is available at premium to other NBFCs.

The company has entered the primary market with and IPO to raise between Rs 824 crores to Rs 901 crores by issuing shares in the price-band of Rs 160-175 per share.

"At the upper end of the price band the issue is priced at 3.2x M8FY2011 book value, which is at a premium to Manapuram General Finance and the other NBFCs. The premium pricing is due to a leadership position in its segment, strong brand visibility and better operational metrics. However, considering the regulatory risks in the sector and the other macro factors the company should trade at a slight discount to the larger NBFCs," said Sharekhan report.
136. ms mudd |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 9:24:57 PM
await till market corrects to 1000 to 2000 points.

Then Invest in Following Companies.

1. Coal India 2.Power Finance co 3.Shree Ganesh Jewellery House 4. NTPC 5. JSW Energy 6. Moil 7. SBI 8. Andhra Bank or Syndicate Bank 9. JP infra 10. TCS.

Invest through SIP.
135. ms mudd |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 9:16:49 PM
Dear ALL,

Wait........Wait...Don't apply this IPO..Wait for Listing then take ur own judgment.

It will list around Rs.120/- to 130/- Per share.

Rs.120/- per share is fair price for this ipo.

-warm regards,


134. amit mishra |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 8:40:00 PM
Dear sreedhar and ravi i have limited funds. shall i invest in paramount or innoventive in place of muthoot whose gmp is constantly falling. pl suggest ur view
133. CHD |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 7:39:48 PM (1100+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
For FINANCIALANALYST @ 124 : SBI -ASBA allows it. I have been applying thru my a/c with SBI for my wife's DP -Demat account with icici bank and there has been no problem whatsoever till now.
132. carez |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 7:33:27 PM
I have HDFC ac.but sharekhan DMAT and address in HDFC ac and sharekhan are different , will it be any issue?
131. Rakesh Kumar Agarwal |   Link |  Bookmark | April 18, 2011 7:11:14 PM
dear golmal, LIVE IPO SUBSCRIPTION KI DETAIL HUM KONSI SITE SE LE SAKTE HAI