Listed below is the issues in the past 1 year wherein the QIB subscription was more than 20 times.
1) Muthoot - 25.01 2) Lovable - 21.87 3) P&S - 49.80 4) MOIL - 49.16 5) Power Grid - 18.52 6) Coal india - 24.70 7) Oberoi - 22.15 8) Ashoka - 25.52 9) Techpro - 27.99 10) Vatech - 36.13 11) Eros - 25.79 12) Carrer Point - 47.45 13) Bajaj Fin - 20.19 14) SKS - 20.38 15) EIL - 23.43 16) Talwalkar - 35 17) IL&FS - 52.60 18) United Bank - 47.08
Out of the above 18 issues, 11 issues in the range of 18-27 times, (23 times avg) 2 issues in the range of 35-36 times, (35 times avg) 5 issues in the range of 47-52 times (50 times avg)
Since the majority of the good issues which are over subscribed by QIBs are in the range of 25 times, do they have any breakeven or something at 25 times? Does this indicate any pattern?
Dear Sreedhar, Now that Muthoot is subscribed 25 times by QIB, what is ur call on Muthoot? What would be listing gain for 2 lac application? Should we go for this or keep money for other IPOS? If so, which one do u suggest out of Future/Innoventive? In view of opposite views on board, is there any chance that Muthoot lists at discount to issue price?
Welcome back after long time dear M Gupta & Bolo tara ra ra. Dear Vasnet, Oberoi realty & HMVL were 2 gems which lot of guys missed & personally has given me far superior returns than Coal India which was my most irritating IPO which I like to forget.
It is good to have some strong bears in the forum for different thoughts.
MOIL,P&S listed at least positive. Might be the rate of return was less. Can we expect Coal India in every issue? If we apply in decent issues with low risk, one may turn into a Coal India.
SKS gave 30% returns before crashing. Even ICICI Bank crashed to Rs.250/- from issue price of Rs.890/- before bouncing back. SKS business model is high risk high gain one. A single policy of govt crashed its rate by 50% and this kind of risk in varying degrees, is there in every script in stock market.
25 times subscription in QIB was more or less expected one. Lets see the subscription of Retail tomorrow.
I think this is another finance company IPO after SKS. We should be ready for indefinite loss if we apply in this IPO. Last time in the case of SKS also, many poor guys were loosers by holding for long period after considering SJ's recommendation.
This time, in my opinion maximum guys are applying thinking good long term company, but guys, remeber it is a finance company, any rbi direction can hit the bottomline severly and the share in bad conditions may go below fifty percent of its issue price.
my question is : Whether A finance Company with a pre issue book value of rs. 35 desrves a valuation of Rs. 175 + 10-20 rs. premium? whether a company earning rs. 100 crores per year (May be rs. 200 crores next year after considering public issue money) should get a market cap of rs. 8000-9000 crores?
Its a trap for retail investors, dont be foool otherwise you will loose your hard earned money.
BOLO TARA RA RA
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April 20, 2011 7:43:13 PM
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MOIL WAS SUBSCRIBED 49 TIMES P&S BANK WAS SUBS. 49 TIMES
IN BOTH IPOS PUBLIC GOT KOOTED AND LOOTED FINANCE COMPANY SKS LOOTED AND KOOTED VERY HARD....
NOW ITS TIME TO GET KOOTED AND LOOTED IN MUTHOOT ALSO...
PUBLIC KI AADAT HAI... EVERY 2-3 MONTHS THEY NEED A "ZABAR-DUST" DHUNNAAAIII.....
THOSE WHO ARE LONG TERM "FUN-DA-MENTAL" GUYS SHOULD DEFINITELY APPLY AND BE READY TO GET KOOTED AND LOOTED IN PUBLIC INTREST...
@gembhai...but is bar maine galti kar di phsical application karke..bcoz mere sub bank a/c se me harek IPO me online ASBA through karta hu but is time nai kiya...but v should always do apply online ASBA through...it's very very easy to use...
i was worring about this outcome that by seeing qib subscription every dog and cat will think of applying and retail portion will be crowded....
i was very happy about the unconducive enviroment that was prevailing for last 2-3 days, like gmp falling, other ipo opening etc, but now dead bodies will wake up and apply in this ipo
i have got Rs.100 for every 2 lac application.......
since i dont have ASBA facility for every a/c i have togo for some physical application, although there is loss in it as every 3 lac application through ASBA earns at least 200 ( 10 days *Rs.20 interest)
at 5.00PM on 20th Apr 2011 ************************** QIBs 18025000 413465960 22.94 times NII 7725000 6542640 0.85 times RII 18025000 17667560 0.98 times Total 10 times ************************** as per nse website