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171. Gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 6:53:17 PM
in this uncertain sceneria "boys get seprated from men".....

i have always maintained that shares bazar is not only for maximising gain but some time u have to think about capital protection, plz dont go for the "rosy world" shown to u analyse ur risk appetite.....

applying these "money health hazards" ipo like ...........??? is not good for ur future in stock market ....

have ur own principles for where to apply and avoid , it may give u avg. return but can save u during "bad traps time"....

170. Gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 6:43:22 PM
Subramanian Nagarajan

wait u may recover ur lossess.....

since expiry is in near future,time value of money will also be a factor now if u opt for waiting, that means even if the nifty futures goes there where u bought the call price will not be same

nifty will bounce back from here, 50-70 points is a reality , ur lossess will be minimised for sure...wait

169. Vivekbhauka |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 6:01:38 PM
nifty is not cheap...rather than applying mind where it will go in net 2-3 months,wheather it will be range bound or not....these are of no use ......this thinking never makes money.

money is made when u buy a stock cheap and know that fundamentals justify a higher value.but take psychology into consideration.

example--tata motors at suppose around 1200.

to me tata motors is beyond its fundamental value...hence i will never trade in stock above fundamental value.even if i buy at 1200 and it goes to 1300..im not making more than 3-4%...im happy to leave that.because for me this stock will surely come to 700-800 levels as fundamentals could be normal there.still at 700-800 it is not cheap.

hence i will not see it even at 700-800.it will come there.its very hard to make money at 1200 rates on tata motors for long term....
hence to make money in tata motors(3 times money)i will start watching it when psychology will make it go below fundamental value...hence may be around 250-400...then i will make money surely.
so all big investors want the stock to come down to 200-400 levels to make money....because i see difficult how u can make monet at 1200 levels.simple.

hence this stock has to come down.it will.

this is just a approach to my investment style.but u should be clear with fundamentals and psychology....i wont buy moil at 400 levels....its hard for me to make money here.i have sold all....for me unless i see below 200 on moil i wont be interested.if its not moil then its another that will be available cheap...i know whats cheap when....so patience is the game..........unless tata motors come below 800 allahabad bank below 160...i dont see markets running ...even at those rates...they are fairly priced..i wont buy....tata motor f.v much below.......
im keeping eye on financials as they contain more than 80% portfolio inc ntpc powergrid rec which come under compounding profit stocks.
waiting them to correct 20-50%....sbi will be good buy starting from 2200-2300....for 500 rupee upside....depends how they correct.whatever happens sbi will again go to 3000-3500...just a matter of time....so why not just buy that at all declines blindly...
hope people make money from my experiences.
168. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 5:32:41 PM
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NIFTY CORRECTION
RATE HIKE FEAR IS DISCONTED AND NIFTY IS LIKELY TO TRADE IN 5800 ZONE AND LIKELY 6000 TO 6100 RANGE AT THE END OF JAN 31 2011
ONLY REAL ESTATE STOCK AND BANK STOCKS WILL NOT REACH ALL TIME HIGH OF NOV 2010 HIGH
MID CAPS SHARES WILL BE RANGE BOUND
THOSE STOCKS IN SCAM WILL STILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR TWO MONTHS TILL THE SCAM NEWS ENDS BEFORE THE MOVE TO THEIR HIGH LEVELS
BUY NIFTY 50 STOCKS FOR QUICK QAINS
DONOT PANIC AND SELL
167. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 5:10:30 PM (400+ Posts)
well said ravi bangalore my freind

Nifty is grinding down to a 15% correction now


I expect it to give a technical bounce back in one or two days but there is more to the correction this time i guess

Rate hike fears

EUTOZONE Fears

World Markets not supporting

Main point is 5735 is the next support. Then 5550 IS THE NEXT ZONE....IT IS HEADING STARIGHT THERE if 5735 not held

Regards

Setu (Sj)
166. Ipofinder |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 5:05:32 PM
There is nothing left in IPOs now
Retailers are getting trapped only

Shekhawati:- Before the basis of allotment came the registar said that issue got subscribed 11 times and basis of allotment says that only 6.79 times
out of that only 1.91 times for hni and QIB

means retailer got trapped, that's why the share price that was 8 rs , now at 1 Rs only

C Mahendra Exports:-

Everyone was thinking that this will not pass thru, but the management managed the issue to get oversubscribed 5 times in retail, currently there is no buyer even at 3 Rs

That means these registrars or bankers have some fake accounts, they apply on the first day using these accounts and retailers are getting trapped after seeing that subscription

Can anyone believe that Midavally has subscribed 1.9 times in retail(perfect example of trap)

stay away from these IPOs..strictly avoid
165. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 5:01:08 PM (300+ Posts)
166. Subramanian Nagarajan

Research before taking position, not after taking position. Don't fire all bullets instantly!

I think you should have bought one lot of 5900 Call when Nifty Spot at 5900, another lot averaging when Nifty was at 5800 (5800 stirke, not 5900 strike) & third lot averaging if it falls to 5700 (5700 stirke). That would have effectively brought down your average buy price.

We never know what is in store for market. Bull market is in progress since two years. But, since Friday, market is in bearish trend. Minor support appears to be in 5720-5690 zone & immediate resistance in 5900 level (+ or - few points) follwed by next resistance around 6050. Technical analysis is not perfect science & technical levels are not sacred. You should always hedge your positions while playing in F&O.

Risk is an essential yet precarious element of investing. Regardless of what kind of investor you aims to be, having a basic knowledge of hedging strategies will lead to better awareness of how you work to protect yourselves. Whether or not you decide to start practicing the intricate uses of derivatives, learning about how hedging works will help advance your understanding of the market, which will always help you to be a better investor.
164. IPO/STOCK GURO |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 4:43:14 PM
Market crashed share prrice of NHPC,NTPC,NMDC,SJVNL Crashed, small investors mara gotala govt. And satorio ki balay balay, baychara small investor ab kiya karay ga? 1 naya ipo a gaya kahi mauka chook na jay ?
163. Subramanian Nagarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 4:04:46 PM
Dear Sreedhar/Gem IPO/Ravi Bangalore/Natarajan,

I have 3 lots of NIFTY 5900 CE 27/01/11 at the average rate of Rs. 102/-
Yesterday and today our market was hammered and now the same is at the price of Rs. 51/-
What is the market trend now. Can I hold or average or exit? Please give me ur opinions.

Regards
Subramanian
162. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 3:28:21 PM (900+ Posts)
Grey market is saving issues like Midvalley.People short kostaks,get incentives from the brokers for filing applications & hence as a result the Issue gets subscribed.
161. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 1:50:57 PM (300+ Posts)
LIC Housing Finance 173. P/BV 2.42x, P/E 10.1x.
Buy 50% at current levels & balance on declines to 120 levels. Target 215.

HDFC P/BV 6.36x, P/E 31.19x
Gruh Finance P/BV 5.27x, P/E 17.32x
HDFC is too big to compare & Gruh Finance is too small to compare.

The stock will take some time before it can get the same valuations that it got before the scam was exposed. the current scam is still very small compared to the balance sheet of LIC Housing Finance. As per the management of LIC Housing Finance,

All loans given to developers secured.

All loans in question are performing (till now).

Loans in question form just 0.6% of the balance sheet. If LIC Housing Finance writes-off 0.6% of its assets, nothing much will change. The size of the scam looks much smaller compared to the balance sheet of LIC Housing Finance.

LIC Housing Finance's stock downgraded because:

- Market will question the company's asset quality.
- Market will give a discount because of poor corporate governance.
- LIC Housing Finance will have to relook at its loan sanction processes and it is possible that the company will slow down loan disbursements in future. The fast-growth era for the company may be over.
- The company can forget the banking license for now.

LIC is the promoter of LIC Housing Finance and holds 36.54% in LIC Housing Finance.
160. IPO/STOCK GURO |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 1:23:52 PM
Chay govt. Ho chay private co. Sub nay retailers ko jam kar loota aj psu NHPC,SJVNL,NMDC,NTPC sub dhool chaat rahay hi, 100, 150 times subscribe honay walay Eross. Ib power adi dua ho gay, retailers ko jo companay ati hi loot kar chali jati hi retailers afwahoo may phas kar 100, 50 times subscribe kar jata hi baad may sar pakad kar rota hi, retailers tayri yahi kahani, kiyoki retailer us juari ki tarah hi jo har baar is aas may daw lagata hi ki is baar jeet layga, last may sab kus haar jata hi, govt. Nay retalers ki is nas ko pahchaan liya hi.
159. tower |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 12:43:18 PM
WHAT A GREAT COMPANY . NO BANKERS ALLOWED FRO ASBA . WE SHOULD AVOID THIS ISSUE OTHERWISE WILL LOOSE A LOT MONEY.PROMOTERS ARE WILLING TO REDUCE THE HOLDING BY CHITTING THE GREEDY PEOPLE.
158. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 12:34:39 PM
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LARSEN L&T
SHARE AS GONE DOWN TO 1762 BEAKING THE 3RD RESISTANCE OF TODAY OF RS 1775 ON SOME MIS INTERPERATION OF SOCK SPLIT IN 9 COMPANIES
IT S WORTH BUYING AT 1775
157. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 12:27:01 PM
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LARSEN%TUBRO L&T
SHARE HAS REACHED AN LOW OF 1762 AND IS STILL IN THE RANGE OF RS 1775
I BROUGHT 10 SHAES AT RS 1764 AN UPSIDE OF 10% IS THERE BY 26 JAN 2010
156. Anil g |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 9:44:57 AM
Thank you Gem :)
155. IPO/STOCK GURO |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 9:29:29 AM
Jo market kay haray huy kiladi ho tay hi, jab baat chalti hi to batatay hi ki is lower rate pay buy kiya and is higher rate pay sell kiya, asal may woh us higher rate pay buy kartay hi and us lower rate pay sell kartay hi.
154. Jagdish Shah |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 9:05:49 AM
Beware of this Midvalley IPO.Huge earlybird incentive is offered for 1st day application which seems to be a clear trap.Greed may push everybody well down the valley.
153. Gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | January 10, 2011 7:22:35 AM
Anil G

I have a bised opinion on mahindra financials because i was ipo investor in it and exited @300s .....

u can buy this stock @ 450-500 , but i m afraid this kind of stock knows only one way go up up and up and consolidate huge correction is not easily possible, this co may be umbrella co for all finacial activity of mahindra group , will diversify from current auto finance business to banking, mf, insurance etc whenever mahindra group decides to enter these business....

this co has tremendous future if u have ultra long term view on it.

but i will not buy it for more than 500, although it has value to be bought at cmp.

take ur decision ....

152. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | January 9, 2011 10:15:04 PM
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MIDVALLEY ENTERTAINMENT IPO
The company has seen huge drop in revenues coupled with drastic fall in Return on Net worth (RONW). The company is part of highly fragmented Media industry and is constrained by the small size of its operation. The company also had four unsuccessful attempts to raise funds through an IPO.
GREY MARKET PREMIUM AS ON 8/1/2011
MidValley Entertainment Ltd      10-Jan-2011      12-Jan-2011      Rs. 64 - Rs. 70      Rs. 4 - 5      ----THE SAID PREMIUM IN SOME OF THE MEDIA RS 4 IS MORE SEEMS TO GO IN DISCOUNT AFTER THE ISSUE IS OVER ON 12 JAN 2010
While being debt-free, post-listing, at Rs. 70, company is expecting a valuation of close to Rs. 240 crore which is very aggressive, given the poor state of its financial affairs. Simply avoid this issue.



Your only link to this company can be a movie viewing at one of its screens!


WAIT FOR SAILINDIA ISSUE ATLEAST IT WILL GIVE 5% RETURN ON ALLOTMENT SHARES