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19. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 9:42:25 PM
SRINI

HOLD ON TO RSWM....
ADD @ 140 IF COMES
AND WAIT FOR 5-6 MONTH TILL BHILWARA ENERGY COME WITH IPO THEN U WILL FIND UR MONEY MULTIPLIED,

ONLY THING U HAVE TO DO NOW IS TO HOLD TILL IPO COMES.
18. IPO KIING |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 9:27:00 PM
17----IPO in SEP.

Indo solar
Tirupati ink
microsec finance
V A Tech Wabag
Career point
Orient green
Commercial engineers
Electrosteel intergrated
Ashok Buildcon
Eros international
Inventure growth
Sea tv network
Techpro system
Cantabil retail
You boradband & cable
Vigro engineers
Bedmutha industries
17. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 9:25:25 PM
Dear GEM, Sreedhar,
Please suggest me, I have 5L cash in hand and 1-2 demat accounts(1 is mine and other is friends), please suggest me in which IPO's to invest in full.

Also GEM, as per your suggestion I have entered in RSWM 20 shares, can I add more in future if price falls?. Also can I enter now in jai balaji also?.
Thanks in advance.
16. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 9:24:05 PM
Dear GEM,
Can we know that company name also, as you are suggesting I want to invest some amount in that also. I asked Sj and he is not letting us know the company name.
15. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 8:35:15 PM
SJ,
Below is the source
http://jmfinancial.in/downloads/pdf/RHP%20v.15%20030910-%20ROC%20filing.pdf
14. gst |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 8:27:22 PM
does anyone knows about guj nre mineral resurces a guj nre coke group co operating in australia ipo. got from print media that they are filing prospectus with sebi shortly.
13. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 8:14:13 PM
Dear Sj,
Can we know that company name also, as GEM suggested I want to invest some amount in that also.
12. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 8:08:53 PM
Shreedhar

Slowdown leading to low job growth less students doesnt mean less students sat for entrance.

That means less centres and firm getting lower finances and less expansion coz outlook was gloomy for job growth.

Firms never expand when job growth outlook is gloomy. That is one indicator of slowdown.

Gloomy oultook no way means no of students in coaching classes will be less. Coaching classes will expand less coz of lack of finances.

Anyways i presented that in wrong way. It was incomplete. Even i would have doubted at that statement after a while.

Where did you get March 2010 results ?

EPS on diluted basis is 8 for half year sep 2009 is 8

If we take full year march 2010 based on that to minimum 18 if 20% EPS growth is assumed in second half.

And dilution of 30% post IPO EPS will come to 12-13.

That was an estimate. SO that was my estimate post dilution since i had no actual figures as rule of thumb

May be some depricition interest cost increase allotment of shares etc. then actual EPS is 11. i had no Idea

Where did you get EPS of 11 in march 2010....? plz tell me the source so that i can include it in my excel sheet and recalculate forward earnings that i am working on.


Carrerpoint is expanding to Universities and other technical education institutes now

Governments eleventh five year plan has mentioned inclusion of technical education and opening more accederated universities for technical and higher education.

It has laid out massive plans to do Public Private partnerships for the same. Careerpoint can be benificiary of that

Recently everron has also planned to enter this space by acquiring ICFAI's MBA colleges.

This is called supplemental education.

Coaching classes is just one form of supplemental education

Careerpoint is expanding now in opening universites and technical institutes. Coaching classes will not be its bread butter anymore.

In fact it is not wise to compare Careerpoint to Educomp rite now.

You can compare it with Everron but partially

It is not the first company to be listed in coaching classes sector or technical education sector

There is already a company that has entered its line of business name and line of business from real estate to enter this sector

That i recommended to my clients in May 2010. That company has also forayed in IIT coaching and also opening colleges and technical education centres

So do not just assume it as coaching class company.

Gojng forward PEG will change coz expansion is going on in this company into new business line

That takes time

The data you gave me thanks for that yaar

I was assuming FY10 not had actual plz give me source also shreedhar. Will be helpful for proper analysis

If fy10 eps is 11 post dilution it is overvalued definitely yar that is 28 PE.

but given epansion plans and new forays a risk can be taken. Its a bet

I have already mentioned it is high risk high Gain IPO.

I am not applying but adviced my clients to apply

I will go for VA tech wabag only.

That listed coaching class player report i have given to GEM. it has great prospects.

Careerpoint is in similar expansion plan.

Well i will come with total analysis by night so may be my view may change.

Please keep on alerting me like this

Thanxs

Regards

Setu
11. Rahul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 8:01:28 PM
Baba Singh ji

You can very well use SBI. No need to link your DMAT to SBI.
10. dhaval shah |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 7:45:14 PM
this ipo is one of the best ipo in this 6-7 ipo's.
9. baba singh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 7:41:02 PM
THIS QUESTION FOR GEM SJ @ RAVI

MY DEMAT AC IS IN RELIANCE MONEY WHICH IS LINKED TO THE HDFC BANK LTD


TODAY I GET THE USER ID AND PASSWORD OF MY SBI SAVING AC

WHEN I LOGED IN THE AC

THERE IS LINK DEMAT/ASBA

I CLICK ON THAT

THEN IT SHOWING TWO IPO OPEN

1 INDOSOLAR

2 TIRUPATI

I CLICK ON INDOSOLAR

THEN ITS SAYING TO FILL

MY NAME

PAN NO

BID OPTION

CDSL/NSDL DP ID

EXPTRA

I WANT KNOW THAT CAN I USE THIS PROSSES WITHOUT ANY PROBLEM B CAUSE MY SBI SAVING A/C IS NOT LINKED TO MY RELIUANCE DEMATE ACCOUNT

ALSO WANT TO KNOW THAT WHAT ABOUT THE PRICE BAND OF

CARRER PONT & MICRO SECU

PLEASE HELP ME

I M A SILENT USER OF THIS BLOG

AND I HAVE EARNED LOT OF MONEY IN UR GUIDENCE IN

EIL - SALE @ 330
SKS SALE @ 1180
GPPL SALE @ 56
BAJAJ CORP SALE @780
HMVL @ SALE 190

THANKS ALL OF U
8. amit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 7:21:09 PM
please cureent grey market price &

lot of share & price
7. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 7:07:28 PM
SJ,
its March 10 total sales were 678 million & net profit was 198 million vs 162 million.On a post equity basis its EPS is 11.1.So 310/11.1=28.From 2007 onwards it has never posted profit of more than 28percent so why is it asking 28 PE.Everon & Educomp are completely different to Career,they are in a space where govt is going all out to improve education & hence thinking of spending a lot on education..This is a pure coaching centre which gives coaching in AIEEE,IIT & AIPMT.When for last 4 years its profit was 198,162,154,120 ,Now why will its profit rise suddenly,will its name spread wide & far since it has done an IPO?Will there be a sudden spurt in students undergoing coaching in these competitive exams?So how is it going to get that traction in its financials.
It has zero presence in south & in future also its presence will be zero becos there is no way it can compete with our rank churning coaching centres like Narayana,chaitanya etc.I do not know about north but in south there is no chance for it so how will it grow?
Educom,Everonn are partners in the education initiative of all state governments so their continous growth is assured.
So I Invite your comments on my post.
You said 2008 slowdown in growth due to low job growth &N hence low students.This is not a computer training institute like NIIT,CMC or Aptech.This is a coaching institute for IIT entrance so did the number of students decrease becos students were wary of getting jobs post completion of their graduation from IIT.
6. r.k |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 6:41:44 PM
NAYA ISSUE SITE HAS GONE MADE.WRITING ANYTHING DO NOT FOLLOW
5. Janta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 6:38:38 PM
Market 8000 say 19000 ho gai NHPC ka choor and gober management abhi bhi isko dubonay may laga hi, in chooro ko arrest karkay turant jail ki kaal kothari may dala jay.
4. VG |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 4:49:04 PM
SJ
are you logged on. I am new to IPOs, especially this one, reequest your views.
i have seen your earlier posts and found good and in details
regards
3. ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 1:05:53 PM
prise band 113 to 118
2. Big correction due |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 12:57:55 PM

correction of 3000 to 4000 points on the cards.

DO not apply in any IPO.
1. NITIN AGRAWAL |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 12:34:50 PM
LINKINTIME ki to aise hai....

lots of IPO is in pipeline & there registrar are allmost Linkintime....

so when linkintime is going to bring there IPO???hahahah