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39. Niraj shah |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 1:15:49 PM
DEAR..SETU JAIN ,BE FIRST TO GIVE DETAIL REPORT REGARDING PRICE BAND,AFTER KNOWING PRICE BAND..
38. Amit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 12:08:04 PM
Hi Everybody
What about the IPO of Microsec Finance
37. ipopagla |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 11:52:53 AM
See prince is openly flirting with priyanka.
He will speak only to girls.This is his old habit.He choose the posts of girls and start flirting.
36. PRINCE |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 11:28:37 AM
HI ,PRIYANKA

DONT APPLY INDO SOLAR .....PRIMIUM 1.5 HAI.....PICHHE ACHHE IPO MILENGE IS ME PAISE BLOCK KAR KE KOI FAYDA NAHI LAG RAHA .......
REPLY

PRINCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
35. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 11:24:05 AM
TO ALL ASKING ALLOCATION:-

1) VATECH 40%
2) EROS 30%
3) CAREER 15%
4) MICROSEC 15%

MY ALLOCATION TOWARDS VW COULD CHANGE ON UPSIDE ONLY.
34. Hemantjain |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 11:13:32 AM
Latest gryy market premium :
Microsec Financial Service limited - 1900 for full application
33. Hemantjain |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 11:10:58 AM
Buy FCS Software at current price 2.55 target price 6 instead of applying in these type of IPO
32. mukul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 10:39:44 AM
MR TULSIAN Views regarding microsec financial:

Microsec Financial Services is entering the capital market on 17th September 2010 with a fresh issue of 1.25 crore equity shares of Rs. 10 each, in the price band of Rs. 113 to Rs. 118 per share. The company will raise Rs. 141 to Rs. 148 crore via the public issue, depending on the price discovered. The issue, constituting 39.3% of post-issue paid-up capital of the company, will close on 21st September 2010.

Microsec, a non-deposit taking NBFC, is a financing and investment company, providing services such as investment banking, brokerage (equity, commodity and currency), wealth management, insurance broking, financial planning and loan against shares. It has a dominant presence in East India (where 89% of its 239 branches are located) with strong focus on West Bengal (accounting for 74% of branch network) and more particularly in Kolkata with 99 branches (which accounts for 41% of total branch network).

As of 30th June 2010, the company had 26,000 broking clients and 459 clients registered for its loan against shares service. The fund deployed towards loan against shares facility, as on 31st March 2010, was Rs. 41 crore for 72 clients, leading to an average ticket size of Rs. 42 lakh per client with no NPAs, as of that date. Going forward, the company plans to increase its focus on this line of financing activity.

Of the total funds to be raised in the IPO, the company plans to use Rs. 113 crore for expanding the financing business and Rs. 8 crore each for setting-up new facilities (30 branches and 4 regional offices) and upgrading present technology.

For FY10, on a consolidated basis, the company had a topline of Rs. 57 crore, of which, brokerage and investment banking accounted for 37% and 26% respectively. The net profit for the year was Rs. 25 crore, implying a net margin of 43%. The company’s net margins remain strong due to significant contribution of investment banking (debt syndication) income, which almost entirely gets added to the company’s bottomline.

As on 31st March 2010, the company’s networth was Rs. 92 crore with BVPS of Rs. 47.4. Its cash / bank balance (net of debt) stood at Rs. 15 crore, as on that date. EPS for FY10 was Rs. 12.6 on equity of Rs. 19.3 crore.

Post IPO, the equity will expand to Rs. 31.8, which is considered high for the nature and scale of the business operations. Post-issue, the promoter holding will reduce to 54.78% from the present 90.25%.

The narrow price band of 4%, between 113 to 118, is a refreshing positive, wherein the company will be valued in the range of Rs. 359 to 375 crore, at the lower and upper price bands, respectively. This seems to be quite stretched for a broking company, whose fortunes are so closely linked with the performance of secondary markets, thereby leading to uncertainty on future profitability.

Broking firms having made their IPOs in the boom time of 2007, viz. Motilal Oswal, Edelweiss and Religare Enterprises, have not all rewarded their shareholders in the long term. Except for Religare Enterprises, both Motilal Oswal and Edelweiss have underperformed, either the markets or in absolute terms, from their IPOs till date. Edelweiss’s market cap has reduced by one-third from Rs. 6,200 crore at the time of its IPO in Nov 2007, to less than Rs. 4,000 at present. On the other hand, market cap of Motilal Oswal increased by just 1% since its IPO in Aug 2007, as against Sensex’s return of 29% during the same period.

This company can be compared more with Emkay Global, having present market cap of Rs. 212 crore, with annualised topline of Rs. 115 crore and high promoter stake at close to 72%. This share is ruling at Rs. 87 on the hopes of promoters’ wanting to sell their stake in the company. This company, having gone public in March 2006, is still ruling way below its issue price of Rs. 120 per share. Microsec, being a regional player and that too in the Eastern part of the country, will have its disadvantage.

At 113 and 118, the issue is being priced at a revenue multiple of 6.3 and 6.6 times respectively. Bigger listed peers (both in terms of presence and turnover) are presently ruling at revenue multiple of around 3 times. On a PE based multiple, against the average of 16 for listed brokerages, the issue is priced cheaper at 9.0 and 9.4 times respectively, the higher net margins probably coming to the company’s rescue. However, Microsec stands at the disadvantage due to the smaller scale of its operations vis-a-vis the other listed players.

Given the sentiments around are very positive, the issue may give prospective investors some listing gains, but may not be able to reward investors having horizon of 12 months, on a sustainable basis. It would have been better, had the issue been priced at around Rs. 100 per share, which would have left higher margin of safety and returns on the table for the prospective investors. Investors can go for the issue only for listing and short term gain
31. K.K. Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 8:31:32 AM
Dear Sreedhar, SJ and friends,
I am away on vacation. I will be busy for 10 more days I think. I could not follow even the mails on this site. I am peeping in for a few minutes from one of my relatives house. The priorities for me are VaTech and Eros. Based on the subscription figures I may go for the others as well. Please advice me if my priorities are wrong or if I have to apply for others as well.
30. vishaal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2010 6:53:07 AM
apply or not?
29. Rakesh jhunjhun |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 11:21:08 PM
buy Sree Rayalseema Alk & Allied Chem Ltd

market price 13.60

book value 45

p/e 4
industries p/e 25-30

sharholding of DIIs 37%
28. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:53:01 PM
dear srini

This is the exact reason why i have stopped giving recomendation on stocks on board

thats why you can give me test mail i will send you

You can understand from post no 29 why i am not posting here


Regards

Setu

email: setu dot vinayaka at the rate gmail dot com
27. viru plus |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:43:52 PM
srini
for small amount of rs 3000 you canot buy good share and profit rs 1000
brooker do not have interest in small amount any share you buy chance of loosing rs 1000 is more than gaining rs 1000
if that operator knew any share like this then he will be come milti milloinere
26. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:42:41 PM
GEM and Shreedhar

I was waiting for analysis of my freind i know who is research analyst in a mnc and researched this CAREERPOINT Even before me

He said ONLY FOR LISTING GAINS

I HAVE ALSO SENT ANOTHER MAIL TO MY CLIENTS TO CHANGE MY STANCE TO ONLY FOR LISTING GAINS or better avoid

HIGH RISK HIGH GAIN

ANYWAYS I WAS NOT PERSONALLY APPLYING FOR THIS

I WILL GO ONLY FOR VATECH

BOARDERS CAN ALSO AVOID IF THEY PLEASE

I AM ADVICING NEUTRAL AND LISTING GAIN INSTEAD OF LONG TERM AFTER COMPLETE EXCEL ANALYSIS

I had never claimed long term though. I only said on face of its theme it looks good

Although i am confident about the listed player in coaching space.

whose brand name is well know now.

Regards

Thanks GEM AND SHREEDHAR For advice

I also now confirm your views

P.S. MUKUL YOU CAN AVOID IT AND ONLY APPLY IN SMALL QUANITITY IF YOU PLEASE

Setu
25. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:29:06 PM
Dear Sj,
I don't know why are avoiding me, even after requesting like begging also you are not responding, no problem, may be if I know the company I will invest small amount like 3000Rs. and wait for some time(marginal profit of 1000Rs.), I will never request you in future, sorry for disturbing you.
24. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:21:35 PM
GEM

Boss thats what i am telling yar

It will get public private partnership from government in future

Dont look at past performance when it was only based on IIT

IIT succes rate is not good

But batch strenght is still full there

Go to Kota yourself and see

Bansal takes limited students and thousands of students come to Kota for IIT coaching

Faculty of Careerpoint is not bad.

Student intake is relaxed hence quality of students not good compared to Bansal.

If it did not had demand then why it is growing so many francises till now and which are fully filled. Coz there is demand yaar.

But obviously this IPO is not priority no 1

Priority No 1 should be vatech wabag

Trust me i have experienced Kota myself and seen Bansal and Career in class 10 and later in class 12 when i visited my brother who is in Bansal

Careerpoint has bigger batch strenght

If batch strength is bigger and full that means there is demand and it is not dependant on succes rate

Faculty is top class. You cannoty say that. I know that personally.

Wait i will give projections and report

Then decide


I am only going for Va tech and may be Eros

I have however adviced my clients for Career as well that substitute for long term

I am confident this is high growth secto whoz dynamics are about to change in future by governments Public Private Partnership contract model

If the sector outlook was so bad

Why are leading companies entering this space..of technical education and universities

like Everon and Religare etc etc. Just google

PE players plenty have enterd this space and there have been some notable deals last year and very recently

PEs do not enter in low growth sector coz they demand highest returns from promoters for their investment.

PEs entered most in Microfinance in 2007

And now they have entered most in Education

Regards

Setu
23. Priyanka |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:14:12 PM
No 9
Please go ahead and use ASBA of SBI. There is no harm where you have a/c. I am having demat in sharekhan which is linked to my Icici bank, but I always use SBI's ASBA for IPO's as ICICI bank is not having this facility.Let me know if you have any problem.
22. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:04:40 PM
SJ

BUT TALWALKERS, JUBLIANT HAVE GROWTH........

IN CP ITS MISSING LOOK AT THE LAST 3 YR .....

WE ALL KNOW THAT WHERE STUDENTS GO FOR COACHING IN THIS BUSNS,. THE GOODWILL OF THE COACHING CENTRE OR TEACHER IS MORE APEALING TO STUDENT THAN A BRAND.

IT CAN BE APPLIIED ONLY IN SMALL QTY.
21. GEM IPO FINDER |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 10:00:50 PM
FRESH LOOK AFTER PRICE BAND

CONCLUSION : APPLY IN SMALL QTY

PAT FOR FY'10 = RS.24.45 CR
NO OF SH POST IPO = 3.18 CR
POST IPO EPS FOR FY'10 = RS. 7.69
POST IPO BV FOR FY'10 = RS. 75
ASKING PE = 15

PEERS TRADES AT AROUND SAME VALN AS ASKED BY THE CO.


CONCLUSION CAN BE APPLIED IN SMALLER QTY.

MY ALLOCATION WILL INCREASE IN THIS IPO THAN PLANNED.
20. sekhar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 14, 2010 9:57:48 PM
sir,
i am a small and short term investor in share market ,
i am keen to buy "micro sec financial service ltd" is it profitable to buy this script , and may i know how much it go high on listing day . shall i keep it as long term or short term .