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October 13, 2020 9:11:29 AM
IPO Mentor (600+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Garden Reach @ 200 is trading at 13PE. Mazdock @171 is trading at 7PE. Mazdock has much superior competency/skill set compared to Garden reach.
NII's who have secured funding/Finance, got very little allotment (6.78 Cr invested would have got 600+ shares only), with requirement that these ppl need to clear trade on listing day in order to avoid extra interest burden (which is already more than normal due to public holidays etc) There was rush to exit. May be happen today also to some extent.
Please use your own judgement as usual.
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October 13, 2020 12:05:57 PM
IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
But Cochin shipyard is trading at almost same valuation as Mazagaon.
Some of us got lucky by grace of god and felt that they are above anybody else. There were ample indications that stock will help lower quickly but we did not sell. Now we are blaming cheating by others which is nothing but an attempt to satisfy our own ego.
There is a "Greater Fool Theory" which is applicable to Equity asset class well:
In finance and economics, the greater fool theory states that the price of an object is determined not by its intrinsic value, but rather by the local and relative demand of a specific consumer. In an inflated market, a consumer, despite having broader market knowledge might pay an inflated price because of their needs and the local related-market value. Another consumer relative to their needs and assessment of market value may deem the price excessive. Thus to one consumer the commodity has a greater value than to another making the former look like a fool to the latter.
Unfortunately, in case of Mazagon some of us proved to be the biggest fool who were not able to find a greater fool to sell Mazagon shares too. We need to blame ourselves no one else for turning out to be the Greatest fool at least in the short term.
Can Mazgaon Open in LC tomorrow? If so, then how will panic sellers sell?
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October 12, 2020 11:44:42 PM
Top Contributor (200+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
No LC tomorrow...
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October 12, 2020 10:50:14 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
History repeating itself. Same happened with cochin shipyard. Demand & grey market were high but listing was not as per expectation. PSU specially defense stocks have same fate.
I am new to stock market and still learning the market. Mazagon Dock IPO is the first IPO i applied for and i was allotted one lot in retail segment.
I was very excited to see Mazagon listing today as this is my first IPO. However, During the pre open market hours i.e. 9 AM to 9:45 AM i oberseved there was lot of bulk sell order placed for much lesser price around Rs.110 than the issue of Rs.145.
I am not able to understand why when someone brought the shares @145 and wanted to sell them around Rs.110. Can anyone please help me to understand the logic behind this.
These are all Hawa HawaI bids which are generally withdrawn in time. You may have observed that at about 9.44 am both sell / buy bid were near 216. Even if the person who has given sell bid at 105 does not withdraw his bid before 9.45, it will not be sold at 105 but it will sold at the opening price .
Very easy question. ..if you want to put sell order during pre opening , you have to bid at lowest price..and if you want to buy then bid at highest price...
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October 12, 2020 9:47:50 PM
Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
@Caution ipo ji selling at low and buying at high ...pls explain ....smj nhi aya ...pls also tell how to decide price to sell at pre-open because 10 AM price goes down suddenly not able to sell..pls tell
I think chances of going near issue price is more to induce more selling pressure. Also HNI/GMP operators may be unhappy and may short to break even due to disappointed listing.
Pls dont compare chemcon with Mazagon. Chemcon is great business but bad management. Credibility of management is very important for any one to put money. Fund houses and FIIs did not invest much for the reason. due to this reason day by day it value is comming down.
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October 12, 2020 5:38:16 PM
IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
No one will buy at Lower Circuit. Since there are no buyers and all sellers that is why the stock is at LC. It means if the circuit breaker was not put today by exchange, the stock would have fallen even lower today itself.
Order without price lagao sirf quantity dalo. Ya lower circuit price pe order lagao. Order book check karoge to lower circuit price kya hai wo pata chalega, us price pe sell order daal do
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October 12, 2020 4:18:23 PM
Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
How to sell ipo shares in pre open ....as I tried in chemcon and now mazagon but in both order gets rejected everytime .... security now allowed in pre-open market .....how other are able to sell in pre-open pls tell
Put sell order at market price between 9:00:00 to 9:44:59 AM or Putt sell order at lower circuit price between 9:00:00 to 9:44:59 AM. Your trade will get executed at Pre-Open Price at 9:45 AM
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October 12, 2020 4:41:08 PM
Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
@dhan ki baat kya bol rha h bhai ....apko nhi pta tho rhne do