Experts here please guide me. Every time i am applying to ipo on last day at 4.00pm through sbi upi. I am getting upi mandate and approving. But till now i have not received any ipo which i applied at 4pm on last day. Later i found that we should apply before 2 pm for applying through sbi upi. Is it correct?
If you have accepted the mandate, there after it is pure luck. BTW, people choose UPI way to get extra time to think and decide. UPI mandate can be accepted upto 12PM on next day of IPO close.
@Makxykx, have you got allotments any time for 3rd party UPI mandates for LinkInTime registrar ? So far, I have not got for under subscribed IPOs also (Nuvoco) when 3rd party UPI mandate is done. But Kfintech allots for 3rd party UPI mandates (Vijaya Diagnostic)
Please help Applied IPO C.E info by Paytm.....Bid 1 (28 share) and Bid 2 (14 share) by Retail. Is it correct to add multiple bid in retail application?
172.1. ObserverEye| Link| Bookmark|
December 13, 2021 9:26:03 AM
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No..... In a highly oversubscribed issue, applying for more than one lot in retail is useless and unneccesary blocking of funds.. Apply only for 1 lot in retail.
Just posting here that you would track and reply. How much is the ROI Bajaj offered for MapMyIndia ?
I was told ROI is fixed at 11.5% and 2.5%FD interest. So total Interest is 14% and margin cost is 0.25%.
is it ok to apply at this ROI ? Did you apply ?
Thank you.
I have been a retailer doing 14 to 18 applications but have not got any allotment in recent good IPOs and so turned into funded HNI after your advise in a post that Bajaj offers HNI funding. Thanks for the advise.
@iamnimitshah @Always Lucky Hi, Would like to know what is the process for getting IPO funding from Bajaj Finance ? Is there any eligibility and what kind of documents are required ? And also , what is their process i.e. What Bank accounts and demats ? And how do you intimate them for funding and do they place orders on your behalf?
Check calculation of oversubscription is 305X you will pay interest @1200+ per share w.e premium is 1000 so you will need to pay 200/ from pocket. so why to apply to loose money?
I have read on this forum about HNI financing by Bajaj from iamnimitshah dude.
You can search for Bajaj Securities customer care number and call and ask them for IPO financing. They will take care of the rest.
In short, 3 accounts needs to be opened. 1. Bajaj Securities Demat Account 2. HDFC or ICICI Escrow account for which POA is given to Bajaj 3. Bajaj loan account
Above 3 accounts need roughly 40 to 50 pages paperwork and some attestation and some affidavits. Most important is the networth certificate from CA if you don''t have IT returns.
Once all done, they call you for every IPO and explain about the ROI and margin. You take the risk and they take the reward 😇
In other words, our reward is controlled by risk and they have fixed rewards. Do remember and calculate using HNI calculator and take a calculated risk. HNI financing is not something that''s going to reward the customers as per my research.
I don''t mean to encourage or discourse you. Investing in Share Market is all about taking calculated risk. Good Luck :-) 👍🏻
171.6. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 11:34:38 PM
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Hello @ Gandhi,,
pls take into consideration that except c.e. ipo, there is one more excellent ipo which is data pat, and there is third one med+.
if it was only one ipo with high gmp you might wanna take the risk.
Anything can happen in mkt, gmp can nose dive.
So take calculated risk, not loosing your money its also a form of earning. decision is yours, make wisely
I have replied in this thread and skipped replying in Tega thread. I have also learnt a lot from this forum. If you have gone through the complete Tega thread, you might have understood Bajaj''s greediness and suggestions/advises from fellow investors regarding the cost per share. At this high ROI, even if the MapMyIndia registers bumper 100% listing, you wont even get anything. What if lists at 80% GMP or 20% GMP or for our bad, in discount ?
I suggest you to do calculations for few IPOs first with ROI as high as 12 to 14% and then enter the dragon 🐉🐲
All the 3 accounts mentioned above are opened free of cost. So, there is no harm in opening them. We can keep discussing in this forum and keep helping each other.
Also, as iamnimitshah said in Tega thread, he won''t take financing if ROI is greater than 8. I have also Bajaj the same. You can do the same and they will come down eventually. 😃
Thanks for your reply. It is very nice of you to share your experience.
I also got curious about IPO financing after your post on Mapmyindia Forum . I have gone through all your discussion with Nimitshah and all threads.
I have already opened Demat account with Bajaj. It''s like you said I just wanted to open the account in case any good opportunity and of course Risk is ours and Reward is theirs😀 the person I talked told me I need ITR for last 5 years(Which I have) or a Net Worth certificate
But he said that there is no minimum income criteria , etc and Also we can get funding upto 100Cr . I found this really unrealistic - Can you please confirm has this also been your experience ?
I just want to use this when perfect opportunity comes.
Just for discussion - Would Nykka have been a good candidate for Taking Ipo funding considering It was Oversubscribed 112 times in HNI and it GMP was always around 70% + ?
Actually I am just exploring these options as and when I come across them .
And Completely agree with you that Not loosing is also earning . This where our decision making comes into play .
If you wish to take finance for 1Cr, they create a FD with this 1Cr in the ICICI/HDFC account you opened and bid for IPO against this.
If you are allotted 1.5L worth shares, the FD comes down to 98.5L and so the maturity amount. As this FD was active for 7 days, you will get 2.5% interest which has to be paid to you because you have taken this amount as a loan from Bajaj and kept in your account. For this 2.5% interest you get on FD, there will be a 10% TDS deduction and while filing ITR, you will have to pay any extra tax according to your liability or you will get this 10% TDS refund if you don''t have any tax liability.
Hope this clarifies.
After the paper work and your accounts are opened, for any IPO, you just need to transfer the margin and interest if you are satisfied with the ROI.
Glad to see that you have done your research and homework. Yes, Nykaa would have given very good results for funded HNIs.
Due of its size, it was subscribed less times. For funded HNIs, subscription is the key factor. Higher the subscription, lower allotment of shared and thus higer cost per share.
Let''s be ready and wait for some IPO with good GMP and big size and then we can try.
Bajaj actually track GMP and estimate the subscription figures and so they have raised the ROI to 11.5 for MayMyIndia from 8 for Tega. At 11.5, chances to be profitable are very less.
171.13. SamJos| Link| Bookmark|
December 13, 2021 2:57:22 AM
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Basically you calculate hni subs, interest cost per share, & listing price - no recent ipo had been profitable at 11% ROI. So FF was a good option if ROI is 7-8%, but at 11-12%, it is very risky & marginally profitable. NBFC has raised ROI looking at demand & possible no business April 2022 onwards.
170. R R Patel| Link| Bookmark|
December 10, 2021 2:54:14 PM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
It’s a must apply IPO Very good financial, consistent revenue n PAT growth, digital tech company, reasonably priced, great demand n grey premium, high subscription expected. 2,51,599 lots in retail so approx 1 out of 12-13 may get allotment.
Many IPOs back to back so priority wise list i think: C E Info : Must must apply👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Data Patterns: must apply 👍🏻👍🏻 Medplus : apply if fund available 👍🏻 Metro : may avoid👎 H P Adhesive: may avoid👎 Rategain : not applied 👎 Sriram Pro : nit applied 👎 Anand Rathi : not applied 👎 Tega : applied but didn’t get allotment😞
170.1. RJ Rocks| Link| Bookmark|
December 10, 2021 3:41:18 PM
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I will also follow same as your sequence full force in MapMyIndia & data pattern rest fund in medplus. I have taken but risk and applied 4 lot in ratemygain.
Truth is if you go by Industry or future Data is far better than CE. Although self funded HNI or small investors won''t have money for applying for Data. Because money stuck in these issues won''t come back befor 17th Dec afternoon. So selection among better & best is question to think
A request to Admin. Pl inform regularly the Anchor Demand for all Main Board IPOs, how many times the Anchor Portion got subscribed etc. to gauge the extent of Institutional interest in that particular IPO. Very rarely we get to know such information from some media. Times of India reported Zomato Anchor Demand exceeded 30 times. By the way, pl post Anchor Subscription times for C.E Info Systems .
I think there is no absolute figure about anchor book subscription some times some media publish this subscription datas which is some times true and some times fake. So this things are not available in whole internet.
169.5. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
December 12, 2021 8:16:05 PM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
dear nileshnikalje
you can put ONLY ONE bid per pan, if you make more than one bid then none of your bid will be considered and it will be invalid. Remember only One Category at time.. either Retail or hni.
Go to broker reviews section of this website. You can easily compare the charges and facilities provided by brokers
164. CSK| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 4:46:42 PM
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@Lokes, Noorul, Ravi, Avenue, rest of HNI folks.. Need your suggestions-- I have fund around 27laks. How I can allocate funds for HNI Portions for Mapps, Data pattern, Medplus. Which one I can apply & how many lots for my maximise the return..
@ Csk.. if u go for Data or mapmyindia.. 100% confirm that ur application will b in lottery... And in dis case its all about luck. Just for information.. i didn''t alloted single lot in tega in both account.. 274 and 387 respectively.. lottery system is like that only.. no one to blame. Better go for medplus and hve some bucks in pocket at d end of day.
@CSK, I would second with Noorul. I also applied 323 lots in Tega and was not allowed. I believe same will be the case for MaymyIndia and Data Patterns as both have GMP close to 100%
So, it looks safe to apply in Medplus and have some guaranteed returns. I''m thinking to do the same instead of going lottery in MapmyIndia and Data Patterns.
Anyhow you make a decision based on subscriptions on final day @ 2:45pm
164.4. CSK| Link| Bookmark|
December 12, 2021 9:42:56 AM
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Thanks for your reply- INDIAWAY,Norruel, and Suneel. I will apply all IPO in retail. Still holding money for 200lots for HNI Poritions.
My Plans are- Mapps and Data pattern - HNI more than 500 times i won''t apply in HNI. But if the above two crossed less than 400 (Unlikely) then I May apply in HNI.
Options -2. As you mentioned apply 200 lots in Medplus since above two i don''t find any opportunities.
I have got allotments in Axis ASBA for friend and family Demat accounts for both the LinkInTime and Kfintech registrars whereas I have got allotments only in Kfintech for UPI mandates done with my SB account for FnF demat Accounts. (I may be wrong.) But I don''t have a allotment to show that I have got allotment when UPI mandate is done.
In one of my family member account I applied asba offline in bank on 1 st day...when I checked on next day, amount was not in lien....went bank to checked whether they missed that application, but banker told that they have bided.....i even did not recd confirmation mail for that application....this means application is not bided? Today Saturday I applied again through net banking and applied by asba....now amount is showing in lein..... My query is whether my application is proper as now amount is showing in lien amount and will it not be rejected?
A few things you can do first, cancel the application made through net banking asba, check whether lean is removed; if lean is removed then the application made through physical is not processed by exchange ; if lean is not removed then physical application is processed you may reapply using upi but don''t approve the mandate till Tuesday because your physical application may be approved by exchange on monday
161.4. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 11:26:48 PM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Sir,, Amit.
Please wait till Monday morning by at least 11. am to see if how many email/sms notification you receive from exchange, is it single or multiple?
Also you may ask your DP broker to give you info on that. their system record all transactions made from your demat
Pls You take decision based on the above, you have plenty of time to fix it. Don''t be in a hurry Sir.
I have place a bid yesterday after 6 PM amount is blocked in account but hasn''t received any conformation mail. Did I have to resubmit again? Please help
through ASBA you can bid anytime within bidding period
158.6. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 8:01:29 PM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
1. Whether the Confirmation email/sms could come by Monday or not.. Your application is valid. 2. Your application will be considered for allotment and as a result the fund is blocked. There is no doubt. 3. Sometimes due to off-time or heavy traffic the email/sms could not come from exchange. it happened to me many times.
yes, you will get the confirmation message through nse, or email through bse by the end of next working day(monday)
157.2. Krishna T| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 6:48:13 PM
IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
Definitely Yes, putting order on:
Non working day/hour - status will show ORDERED Working day/hour - EXECUTED
Above says everything!
156. Krishnaji| Link| Bookmark|
December 10, 2021 2:07:51 PM
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posting below question in the main forum for visibility... @Lokes, @Noorul, @MK and other expert members- I am not sure if it has been addressed on this previously- Can we link "senior citizens savings scheme"(its a FD acc for tenure 5 yrs in SBI) with savings bank acc in SBI? This FD has to be normal FD or even RD can also be linked with savings acc? If Yes, how to do? Any inputs, much appreciated.
@ krishnaji.. i hve no idea as i personally don''t like sbi bank because of tortoise like working speed.. but i remember @neoloungs hve ac in sbi .. he can shed some light over this matter..
156.4. Krishnaji| Link| Bookmark|
December 10, 2021 2:59:35 PM
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@ Avenue- yeah my assumption also similar due to its locking period @Lokes- I tried calling sbi customer care but didnt get any clarity as explaining ssss and the normal fd to them was quite a challenge:) They say- can be done but dont know how and that too from home branch only which is not possible for me currently as its out of bangalore ;) @Noorul- yeah I know but somehow sbi is something I am never able to get rid of due to somethng or the other:) I even checked netbank but didn''t find such option.
@Krishnaji - I use SBI but have no idea about linking senior citizens FD though I''ve been told that OD can be taken on regular FD but since its SBI so I prefer to keep it simple and straightforward with them.
For sure, you cannot take an OD against PPF and SSS deposits.
@Noorul There was an article last week about a fake SBI branch set up in one of the southern states. The customers felt something was fishy and complained to the cops and the branch was busted. They said they felt something was amiss as the SBI staff was VERY POLITE 🤣
@Krishnaji, You can link your SSS to saving account User ID. Generally all banks creates unique CIF base on PAN or user data. So your saving account and all the FD''s can be linked to one CIF, so that in online banking you can see everything under one userID. If your SSS is created from Branch, then you need to visit branch to get it link. But if you have online banking enabled then, you can visit any of the nearest branch, they can help you. Also you can change your branch through online banking.
I tried linking my parents'' SSS A/c with their SB A/Cs in SBI. Not possible. You don''t even get a FD printed receipt like with a regular FD. It''s just a printout on a A4 paper with a SBI stamp.
SCSS is a government scheme. SBI only works as an agent in the scheme and doesn''t hold invested fund. Moreover, it has a lock in period. So I don''t think it to be allowed to link for purpose of IPO investment.
At present there are two interest subsidised scheme sponsored by the Govt. 1. SCSS operated by Post office. 2. PM Vaya vandana operated by LIC of India
156.12. 🔥 MOG 🔥| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 10:39:19 AM
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I don''t have any idea about sbi but you can check out Indusind bank. They have a linked type FD with excellent interest rates which can also be used as leverage for HNI application in IPOs.
156.13. Krishnaji| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 1:13:45 PM
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Thanks guys for your inputs Will try to go next week in some local sbi branch and get clear understanding of this. Either case, will keep you posted...
Thanks!
156.14. jigi| Link| Bookmark|
December 11, 2021 2:28:22 PM
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senior citizen savings schemes have a lock in for 5 years (or have partial lock in). a new a/c no is given once it''s opened. it should be linked with CIF, and once it''s linked with cif you should be able to see through net banking/mobile banking.
this is not a normal fd/rd rather a special type with high interest rate. it can not be linked with your savings a/c (for withdrawal as it has lock in).