Though not an expert, but still. May be for the good results that might be just round the corner. Or may be they now control the company n outside investors are nil so price increase is just artificial while fall was real to accumulate from outside investors like me.
162.3. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
April 20, 2023 9:53:00 AM
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Many companies which went down badly came up.like robu,phantom ,pritika, Aristo etc
162.4. SSingh| Link| Bookmark|
April 20, 2023 9:56:16 AM
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SMEs come down when there are too many outside investors and they go up when there is very less or no unknown investors. Promoters and LMs keep analysing the data from registrars. Only closed guys make money in SMEs, baaki sabko koi kyon kamane dega? :)
Pritika at LC -10% today. Also cant understand why circuit is 10% for some stocks n 20% for others. May be below 40 - 20% n above it 10%, may change to 5% even at a higher amount.
grem market jab tak work kar raha tha jab tak HNI quota tha jab se new rule aaya retailer hni mai move hue tab se grey mkt inko trap kar raha lising tak 20% grey mkt bhi 0 ho jata hai
India ranking 1st is a real bummer for the company.
But look at the bright side, If MANFORCE fails, PREGA NEWS is there to declare final results. And if so you are tired from the excercise and feel bloaty then GAS-O-FAST is there to relief your bowel strain.
Seriously there's no harm in applying here, just add more when there's panic selling. For the current market price is fine, after all OFS is brought in order to benefit the early investor's of the company.
After watching listing of usk and avalon, GMP at present day are not authentic. When the issue started there were lot of hype and GMP maximum. But after closing the issue GMP getting decrease. Will apply here surely but doesn't know it will give listing gain or not.
Yes sir, I still think usk listing was just an accident but Avalon ne to dil hi tod diya. Ab to main board me sme se jyada dar lagta hai.
158.3. SSingh| Link| Bookmark|
April 19, 2023 8:26:17 PM
IPO Guru (1400+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
ha ha.. SME me LM ek hota hai.. usi ki aan baan shan ki baat hoti hai.. Mainline me to LM ki baarat hoti hai, blame karo to kise karo.. baarat hai dulha pata nahii…😂😂
There are many discussions on gmp , price band , valuations , ofs , peer comparison etc bit one more thing I would like to highlight is sudden fall in borrowings in last 3 months by a huge amt Especially before ipo this maybe a positive for the ipo or something fishy I want opinions from all the forum members This point must be definitely discussed Also give some research analysis if possible
157.1. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
April 19, 2023 8:17:46 PM
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The borrowings are mainly short term loans for working capital. Mentioned in pg 62 in rhp. Dont think so its fishy.
156. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
April 19, 2023 8:12:57 PM
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Interesting data from rhp. Cairnhill is a mauritius based PE investor. Dont know about HEMA. The share purchase agreement (SPA) was on 31st March 2023 at 977rs per share. Cairnhill is a selling shareholder in this ofs. Their acquisition cost is 274 rs per share.
Cairnhill is a subsidiary of Temasek Holdings, one of the most reputed PE investors in the world. It acquired the stake back in 2014. Check the share price growth of any large pharma company like Cipla, Divis, Torrent or Zydus in the last 9 years. Also check how much Mankind's topline and bottomline has grown since 2014. Nothing peculiar here whatsoever.
Out of Share Market topic but very important one. **INDIA BECOMES MOST POPULOUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD** According to the United Nations data, India has surpassed China to become world's most populous nation with 142.86 crore people. China has a population of 142.57 crore, according to the UN world population dashboard.
It is difficult for me to say that this is good, bad or a ugly news for our Country. This IPO may gain a lot from this news, I think.
According to Manish Chaudhary, Head of Research at Stoxbox, current grey market premium of about 7% is not encouraging, considering the size of the IPO at about 4300 cr. He expects the grey market premium to dilute further over the period due to expensive valuation, higher borrowings and no use of proceeds for business purpose. He believes that there are better opportunities in the pharmaceutical space available at attractive valuation if someone is willing to stay invested from a medium to long term perspective.
So you would buy if Mankind issues a 20:1 bonus and brings the share price down to 50? 😂 Comments like these are the reason why Zomato issued a 6699:1 bonus to bring the share price to double digits before launching its IPO.
Mankind dec fy 23 eps 25 So , annualized eps fy 23 is 33
Struggling with inflation, fully priced IPO.
May command 10-15% gains over peers after listing But such gains will quickly erode with drop in nifty. If stock is available at 27 pe then one can add this to portfolio Revenue is rising but so are the expenses. A good time cash in for promoters/ investors. 1 year range (900-1350).
Overall- neutral
145. sahab| Link| Bookmark|
April 19, 2023 11:57:03 AM
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non of the company with 100% OFS give listing gain if any any please name it??