Mankind pharma have one of the highest number of medical representative...(u know how they work if u have family member who is medical general practioner...)))
so don't be surprised if u find here
"SOME OF HIDDEN P.R.AGENTS "....
so take decision according to ur knowledge,reserch nd risk appetite....
300.1. SONMAYA| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 11:09:30 AM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Ohh ..Thanks for your words of CAUTION 🙏
300.2. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 12:28:36 PM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
@Hope is life It is rather easy. You know number of post by a person. You are giving a sweeping judgement on opposite views
Cipla, Dr. Reddys and Aurobindo Pharma are quoting at cheaper valuations than Mankind Pharma. Only Sun Pharma is quoting at higher valuation.
299.1. UjwalG| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 11:37:23 AM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
Sir mankind has 97% if revenues from india (from rhp). Cipla,reddy, aurobindo has north america as major chunk of revenues. US FDA has stricter rules in place for such companies, but for mankind it will be not. Ps- im just stating facts, not in favor/against of the ipo. Neutral🙏
298. Bhav| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 11:33:37 AM
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Cons:-
1) very big size, you can see in past 2 years only nykka was able to give listing gain, though its GMP was almost double and market was on bull run on that phase
2) too many grey deals happening, all grey dealers will be there on pre open to sell on lower circuits from 9.01 AM 3) GMP is 8-9 %, also don't know weather its going to sustain 4) USK was small size and GMP was 30% still listed on 15% discount, so this much big issue with 8-9% GMP is risky 5) Market sentiment in mainboard not good
Pros:-
You can sell and Apply
So moral is though GMP is 8-9% its a risky bet, don't follow only GMP blindly
296.2. Arca| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 10:05:53 AM
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In the past 4 IPOs what ever he said avoid or below 44 all have done good and avalon -51 did very bad so it clearly tells anything can happen irrespective of their review.
295. abc xyz| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 10:00:15 AM
IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
It is a pure OFS, it means company will not get anything in this IPO. The existing shareholders like Ramesh Juneja, Rajeev Junega, Sheeta Arora and Some funds are selling shares worth Rs.4300 Crores in this IPO.
Promoters ki Chandi hi Chandi on behalf of investors. 🤣😂😋🥰😝😜
Ipca Lab is acquiring 33.4% stake of Unichem Lab and intends to come out with open offer at Rs. 440/- per share. Who will be eligible for this open offer ? Any record date fixed for this purpose please ?
Are u an influencer? I see you coming only when there is a big issue and aggressively promote it even though it might come with expensive valuations and might list negative.
288.3. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 11:39:54 AM
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@IPO Hater I've noticed the same, also there are few more members doing aggressive promotion using mainly GMP as their tool of the trade (they never talk about fundamentals or financials).
Can't deny the possibility that some of the ranked members might be getting offers from lead managers PR dept. for attracting retail investors.
288.4. MAMU| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 11:50:45 AM
IPO Guru (1700+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
@Peter & @MemberHater , Everyone using their own abilities. Posting GMP is the direction to decide, apply or not for listing gain. As many ipos currently even at a premium before listing day and open in a discount. So no fundamental works here specially in listing. Only Myth is GMP. After 3-6 month of listing, fundamental will decide to hold in portfolio or not. Peter instead of crisis someone do post your own analysis, gmp or info regarding same.
288.5. PeterEngland| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 12:45:33 PM
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@MAMU thanks for your advice and this is the best explanation I've got about GMP.
I've now realized I went over the board with my criticism so my apologies, just trying to inform fellow members that GMP should be used very carefully while taking decision about the IPO application.
Also I don't consider myself qualified enough to post my analysis and got no connection to grey market but I try to post my decision about the application, allotment and listing day action as one of the retail investor.
This is not a costly IPO..and not a cheap one as well. This is somewhere in the middle. PE of 32 is reasonable in pharma - look at Sun Pharma trading at a PE of 55, Cipla at a PE of 28.
So again repeating my point - this is right in the middle. Given the brand name this will definitely list at a premium, might go down post listing.
Applying here for listing gains & long term hold from multiple accounts. :)
The TTM EPS on post-issue equity works out to Rs 29.62. At the upper price band of Rs 1080, P/E works out to 36.46.
As of 23 April 2023, its listed peers such as Pfizer India traded at TTM P/E of 29.91, and Eris Lifesciences traded at TTM P/E of 21.02. For FY2022, Mankind Pharma OPM and ROE stood at 25.57% and 23.29%, respectively, compared to 32.01% and 21.38% for Pfizer India, 36% and 21.28% for Eris Lifesciences, respectively. SOURCE - Capital Market.
283.3. arunARUN| Link| Bookmark|
April 25, 2023 10:50:41 AM
IPO Guru (1900+ Posts, 1600+ Likes)
@IPO Hater Surprised that you compared Eris with this issue. Neither the market cap or profit compares any where close