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40. UjwalG |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 9:29:22 PM
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From rhp
1. Operates under six beauty and personal care brands.
2. 301 sku in 2023, 2x of 2022 across all brands. New sku contributed 56% of rev
3. They do not manufacture any products, they completely rely on 3rd party.!
4. Top 10 products contribute 30% of rev. This is same for past 3 years !
5. Ad expenses is close to 40% of rev for past 3 years. !
6. Online Ecommerce channel drives ~58% of sales. and other is driven by D2C channel. Rev by online channel has 30% commission to ecom places.
Decreasing this ecom mix should be the main goal , that shld results into higher margins for them. Cant see this happening from 3 years.
7. Their acquisitions fusion and Just4kids have faced losses in 2023. For last quarter fusion has been marginally profitable but not the latter.
8. 85 Exclusive brand outlets (as they call EBO)
Havent specifically found the rev driven by these EBO's.
40.1. UjwalG |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 11:33:09 PM
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9. Correction, avg rev per EBO is 31lk, avg capex on setting up EBO is 10lk
10. IPO money is used for setting up EBO. They have a target of 44 new EBO per year.
Majority of these are in tier 1 cities, with none in tier 2/3 cities
11. Their salon acquisition bblunt has 10 salons. Avg capex for setting up is 83lk ! Their target is to set up 7 salons each year
12. Acquisition cost for
Just4kids - 167 cr ( they have recorded impairment loss on goodwill about 154 cr, i dont understand what this is :) )
bblunt- 136 cr
fusion -54cr (offers skincare soln)
13. Gross margins 70%, EBITDA margins ~2% for last 2 years
14. Peer comparison doesnt makes sense as other are reputed & long lived brands
15. Bonus in may 2022 in ratio of 1:12899 ( i think shares were face value of 90 hence the ratio, didnt understand the maths)
16. Capital structure
Kunal Bahl & Rohit bansal acquired shares in 2017
Mariwala & Stellaris in 2018
Sofina & Sequoia capital in 2021
Shilpha shetty in 2018 ( now go check if these are completely/partially exiting)
40.2. MuStrFc |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2023 11:52:15 AM
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@UjwalG All among Kunal, Rohit, Mariwala, Sofina, Shilpa are exiting with some stake on the table still after IPO. The respective percentages of stake sale is around 40-86%, with Shilpa keeping only 14% stake in company post IPO and making around 8-9 times gain on her investment, amounting to 50 crores.

The impairment loss in goodwill during acquisition shows the goodwill which was already existing in the books of Just4kids, but due to losses and lesser brand value the fair market value of that goodwill was down by 154 cr.
39. Kiaan |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 5:12:08 PM
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Before applying better to consider the following points .....
1)Co .sells its products through lady agents , focussing on mammas, offering discounts amounting to even 50%.
2) Due to above reason, products are costly even when reportedly not of extra ordinary quality.
3) Customers are mostly , one time type.
4) Employees are being offered a hefty discount of @ 10%, presumably to cushion them , for the fall.
5)Co. is expert in discounts , so created GM , but not able to sustain it ,and extremely volatile.
6)Financials below average, volatile .
7)Greedily priced
8) Those who are offering shares in OFS , lost hope of progress and exiting , reaping the moolah.
9) Market conditiones are bad.
10).Risk reward ratio is high.If goes below the issue price, share may take very long for recovery.
ETC.
Ponder for awhile before appling.
39.1. RAJ ARYA |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 5:48:18 PM
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👍 Good info sir

Sir iski anchor list Ane do sab clear ho jayega ll
38. HONY |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 6:50:32 AM
सावधान रहें सतर्क रहें
MAMAEARTH IPO i.e. HONASA CONSUMER LIMITED Is coming with an IPO. It has made 14 cr in FY22. And if we believe market rumour that it is coming with 10000 cr market cap then PE RATIO Stands to 714 which is very very high. We all know what happen to NYKAA, POLICY BAZAAR, PAYTM, all are down by 50 % to listing price. AVOID this IPO AND SAVE YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY. ALSO DONT INVEST IN MUTUAL FUNDS THAT INVEST IN THIS TYPE OF COMPANIES
37. Anil Shravan Bodade |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 12:03:34 AM
Current Gmp
37.1. RAJ ARYA |   Link |  Bookmark | October 28, 2023 5:49:19 PM
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GMP 7 rs only
36. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 11:56:56 PM
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@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com 
Plz. Post FY 23 Results and Q124 Results
35. raviagjpr |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 5:25:35 PM
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2023 results are not published?
34. chIPOrgarh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 12:32:22 PM (300+ Posts)
To apply 5 lots for long term.
33. Hiren K. |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 9:24:25 AM
Bhai log digam me nahi aa araha hai, asset achanak 1 sal me badh gai, waise hi net profit jump kar gaya, and borrowing also decrease drastically....
maje ki baat ye hai ke IPO bhi aagaya on current year also....lagta hai...sab kuchh karliya hai IPO ke liye.....and I know after IPO what will be gone...
Completely avoid.....
32. HappyToHelp |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 1:25:04 AM
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Mamaearth IPO OFS section details,

Kunal Bahl, Rohit Bansal acquisition cost : 3
Rishabh Mariwala acquisition cost : 6
#ShilpaShetty acquisition cost : 41

All are chipkoing loss making cmpny to retailers at : 308

32.1. PeterEngland |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 11:16:20 AM
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Mama Shilpa and her husband can produce lots of X-rated movies out of this money which will benefit (some desperate) retail investors.
31. Display |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 10:19:07 PM
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A question for all : Do you use any Mamaearth products?
31.2. PeterEngland |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 2:38:55 PM
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Most of their customers are one-time acquired through heavy advertising and hype, Himalaya has much better quality baby product offerings at half the price and also easily available.
31.3. raviagjpr |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 5:30:36 PM
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People know about it after shark tank. Before that it was in knowledge of very less people.
Still availablity of products is a concern for this company, products are available in limited areas apart from online store. Also packaging of products are not so attractive.

Now will decide based only on GMP basis, should apply or not. Let promotors infuse some money in grey market.
30. Pure Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 7:56:36 PM
It is a pity that There is no policy regarding fixing of IPO price. Company's are coming with IPO at exorbitant prices. In this IPO, Early investor who put money 5 years back is getting 100 times value. In fact retail investors should be cautious and consider following before investing in IPOs. 1) The company must be in Net profit for at least last 3 years. 2) The PE multiple should not be more than 20 of average EPS of last 3 years. 3) If company is making losses, The pricing should not be more than face value. This company has made huge losses and seeing performance, This is worth face value of Rs. 10/- maximum.
30.1. Ashish Khater |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 9:12:22 PM
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Bhai koi b apne shares list karega to maximum profit ho ye ensure karega. Tumko koi force nhi karta ipo bharne ke liye. Its our own choice. Multibaggers bhi hue hai aur aage b ipo aayenge usme se honge
Jai Jinendra.....Ipo bharo aur bharne Do....
29. Mayur●Banaskantha |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 7:11:28 PM
Mama pure earth ko "MAMU" banane aaya hai.🤣
28. chIPOrgarh |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 5:08:47 PM (300+ Posts)
Employees got 30 discount. Will this list in discount?
27. Koradiya |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 12:51:50 PM
Kya iska price band reasonable he??
27.3. AIExpert |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 5:56:09 AM
Price is very high, list hote hi girega buri tarah
27.4. NeoLongus |   Link |  Bookmark | October 29, 2023 9:21:22 PM
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Bilkul reasonable nahi hai.

Keep minting!
26. G profit |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 12:07:56 PM
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Already Mama Earth was in the news as high valued ipo. Now after the market carnage, I think the company has timed it's ipo at the wrong time.
25. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 3:10:16 AM
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Price Band Officially Announced : 308-324

M.cap : 10424.5 cr

No PE For FY23
Expected PE on Forward Earnings of FY24 :
86.8 times

Issue Size : 1701.4 cr
Fresh - 365 cr
OFS - 1336.4 cr
24. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2023 8:17:15 PM
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Price Band Advertisement officially to be done tomorrow ( 26th October )
It should be around 345
24.1. ultrasnow |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 2:06:55 AM
Price band 308-324

23. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2023 5:06:03 PM
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43-45
Good Demand
23.2. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 26, 2023 9:06:27 PM
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31-34

Made a low of 12 Today
And Strong Bounce Back after Market Closing
23.3. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 27, 2023 7:38:38 PM
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15-16
22. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2023 1:50:43 PM
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# Off-Topic but important

Big BREAKDOWN coming in short term in Recently listed stocks like IKIO , Ratnaveer ,
Aeroflex , Ideaforge , RR Kabel , Valiant , Netweb , Cyient DLM , Yatharth , SBFC , Utkarsh , UDS , Yatra , Samhi , SSKL

Only Yatra , Zaggle , JSW INFRA are strong

I would recommend to exit all the above stocks if you are in good profits , Hold for Long term
And Plz. Avoid BOTTOM FISHING
22.10. Manan Surana |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2023 8:57:30 PM
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a good question is should we buy these stocks around January sir @newgen consultancy , after they've fallen to near issue or low prices?? or any other time frame ?
22.11. newgen consultancy |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2023 10:18:28 PM
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Don't wait for such long
Buy Lemon Tree , Share India ,CDSL , Sula vineyards , Dreamfolks at these levels
Don't think about buying it cheaply
21. GuruMahadev |   Link |  Bookmark | October 25, 2023 7:30:27 PM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
200% avoid category.