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67. KK Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 2:32:00 PM (500+ Posts)
Dear Gem,
As a person who is following both your and Sreedhar's posts with interest in this forum, let me make my comments about this tussle.
Let me first of all inform that no offense is intended.
You say as per your calculations you have paid in full.
But I remember to have read - after Coal India issue - a post by you, where you admitted you are not in a position to fulfill your commitments and even now you say you are at default. If you have paid in full where comes the question of default?
Perhaps you are too young to think that friendship and fulfilling commitments are not as important as making money. You will understand what is more important in life as you grow older.
The question of legal action and courts, in my opinion, are irrelevant here. Ones heart is the court and his conscience is the best judge. If it says you are wrong then that is it.
I understand from the messages you post regularly, you can afford at least half of the default amount and therefore, vas nat's suggestion seems good, which can satisfy both the sides.
Think and act. The dealing could have been in gray market. But let us try to fulfill our commitments even in that.
66. amit deepak |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 2:27:05 PM
HI CAN SHAH WHAT WILL BE ALLOTMENT OF SBI BOND ISSUE ?

HAVE YOU ANY IDEA?

WHAT IS GREY MARKET PREMIUM OF SBI BOND NOW?
65. Ken shah |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 2:25:25 PM
dear shreedhar state bank of bikanare's right issue is coming .what effects on script . what ur call buy or sell.shud apply for right issue .however i dont have this share but u suggest i will buy some and then will apply for ritght issue
64. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 2:02:29 PM (900+ Posts)
SBI may retain retail over-subscription under bond issue
Press Trust of India / Mumbai March 02, 2011, 13:31 IST

State Bank of India today said it plans to retain a portion of the retail over-subscription to its tax-saving bonds issue, which will take the total amount raised through the mega issue up to Rs 5,500 crore.

"We will retain up to may be Rs 5,500 crore... The rest we will return," Bank Chairman O P Bhatt told reporters on the sidelines of an IBA conference here today.

As against an allocated Rs 1,000 crore, subscription by retail investors stood at Rs 4,500 crore, while an additional subscription of nearly Rs 4,000 crore came from other investors, including high net-worth individuals.

Our terms of issue are such that in the retail segment, we could take as much as we want up to Rs 10,000 crore, while from other investors we can take up to Rs 1,000 crore," Bhatt explained.

The issue, which had opened on February 21, closed yesterday. Investors were attracted to the issue because of its competitive coupon rate and the timing, as the end of the fiscal is usually when individuals do tax-saving investments.

This issue is part of the Rs 10,000 crore retail bond programme SBI has planned for FY11 through FY12. The bank had raised Rs 1,000 crore through in the first tranche of the issue last October, which was oversubscribed 19 times. That was the first retail bond offering in the country by a corporate entity.

The bank is offering a 9.75% coupon rate to retail investors on the 10-year bonds and 9.3% for non-retail applicants. These bonds carry a call option in the fifth year.

For the 15-year bonds, the coupon is 9.95% for retail investors and 9.45% for non-retail investors. These bonds have a call option in the tenth year.


So friends retail was subscribed around 4500 Crs & Since SBI is retaining 5500 which in includes HNI & QIB,Everyone will get allotment.
63. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 1:45:13 PM (900+ Posts)
Dear Friends,
Everyone will get allotment.So do not worry.Enjoy the listing gains.
62. Nawneet somani jaipur |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 1:25:51 PM
Current SBI 9.50% Bond is trading @ 10538 @ 9.1o% yield. Hence the bond 9.95 % should list around 10700/. + brokerage and interest seperayely !!!! How You feel ??

Nawneet Somani Jaipur
Mem: NSE
61. Vivekbhauka |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 1:11:53 PM
simple----

its at discreation of sbi how much they want...they can collect 9000 cr from retail....

so if they decide to take 5000 cr...all will be alloted.
if they decide to take 2000 cr....then people who applied for first 2000 will be alloted 100%...rest nothing...so ist day collection was 1600 cr...2nd day 1600 cr...so calculate accodingle when u submitted ur form...
if sbi decide to allot all....then u get full allotment.

still sbi has not decided............so wait for their decision...simple.
60. amit deepak |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 1:08:54 PM
MR OP BHATT SAYS RETAIL GET FULL ALLOTMENT

ENJOY..............................
59. amit deepak |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 12:04:21 PM
MR Sreedhar.'s AND MR VIVEKBHUKA PLZ TRY TO ANSWER MY QUISTION I HAVE LOT'S OF CONFUSION ABOUT SBI BOND ALLOTMENT
58. amit deepak |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 12:02:20 PM
HI FRIENDS AS MR PC JAIN SAY THAT ALL RETAILER WILL GET FULL ALLOTMENT IN SBI BOND IS HE RIGHT OR WRONG?

I APPLY ON THURSEDAY HOW MUCH I GOT?

I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT ISSUE IS SUBSCRIBE IT SELF 4500 CRORE THAN HOW CAN A RETAILER GET FULL ALLOTMENT?

PLZ EXPLAIN ME MR PC JAIN
57. keyur patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:56:52 AM
MR vivekbhauka THIS SBIBOND ISSUE IS OF 2000 CRORE IT SELF.


SO HOW RETAIL CAN GET FULL ALLOTMENT?

PLZ SIR EXPLAIN ME BECAUSE RETAIL SUBSCRIPTION IS OF 4500 CRORE
56. Vivekbhauka |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:53:09 AM
already earned 30-40% returns p a this year in ipos/bonds with 100% safety.....

applies 15 applications in coal india.....sbi bond will again give 5-6 % returns on listings....so why look at secondary markets...i easily make 30-40% risk free in primary/some call/put options etc...so i have sold most stocks at 5600-6300...i will buy only when nifty comes to below 4600--4200-3800-3400......
55. keyur patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:47:14 AM
MR SREETHER THIS BOND ISSUE IS OF 2000 CRORE IT SELF. SO HOW RETAIL CAN GET FULL ALLOTMENT? PLZ SIR EXPLAIN ME BECAUSE RETAIL SUBSCRIPTION IS OF 4500 CRORE
54. Ken shah |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:37:49 AM
dear gem and dear shreedhar grey market sauda (transaction ) only and only depends on trust. hindi me " baimani(illegal) ka sauda puri imandari ke sath.here we cant take any leggal actions.in coal inidia issue i sold all my appli. to my broker in that case i was to paid my broker rs.65000 and i had paid within week.reverse side in omkar issue my broker had to paid me 45000rs and he paid me within week.in grey market stt,brokerage and any secu. trasaction charges beer by kostak seller.
53. keyur patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:28:02 AM
HI PC JAIN PLZ HELP ME OUT


I M APPLIED ON 24th thurseday in SBI bond can any one tell me

how much allotment i will get.

I want to sell it IN GREY MARKET.

SO WHAT PRICE I CAN SELL?

HI FRIEND CAN ANY ONE TELL ME THAT
52. Saharanpuri |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:18:09 AM (200+ Posts)
Dear Gem,

Life is very long n lot of learning happen.

Money is not everything. Friendship & commitment is more important.

Once a commitment is made we need to stick to it irrespective of loss or profit.

Both of you are intelligent,sensible n young guys who will massively benefit each other over your whole life by being friends

51. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 11:10:08 AM (900+ Posts)
Dear Gem,
There is nothing illegal about our deal so do not worry about that.One should not enter any deal without knowing the rules,that is the first rule.Truth is that I lost significant amt of money.If I had pondered action I would have done lot of days back.
I raised the Issue becos some one was implying that I was making personal communication channels blah blah through Chittorgarh.My reply was to him.I did not mention anywhere your name.If I had defaulted becos you had defaulted IPO finder would had to bear the loss so somebody had to bear the loss I bore the entire loss.Thats my only regret becos as I had already suggested everybody will be fine if both bear the loss equally & you do have the wherewithal to bear the loss.
50. PcJain |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 10:44:28 AM
SBI Chairman Just announce that they will retain Rs 5500 cr from SBI Bond.
Which means retail investors will get firm allotment. Retail contribution Rs 4500 cr & others Rs 1000 cr Totalling to Rs 5500 cr. Enjoy.................
49. Gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 10:43:42 AM
sreedhar,

who renewed this dead issue...........?

i have publically admited that i m in default several times inspite u renewed this issue.....

i was not aware of any rules on ground for grey market deals and i followed what was possible for me ........

what do u mean by the reply to this "ravi bangalore" who advised you to go to police and bribe them to give me aeroplane treatment and uuuu said that when ur patience run out of time uuuuuuuu will consider his advice.......

u r one of my best friend apart from sj on this site ,i m also very sorry for the loss to u,i always want to talk to u but this whole issue of coal ipo messed upmy friendship with u , i even cant address a massage to u which i always want....

i must also informe u that i m not afraid of any legal action, because legal action is not possible here, court cant force a contract whose " object is illegal" and in our case the object of the deal was to deal in grey market thats illegal.u can happily publish the e-mails that u have even i have those,will it harm me?????? decide, too many descussion on this issue may lead all we 3 into police costody........

to ipo finder...

the whole process was illegal means dealing in grey market is illegal in the eye of law and it is strictly prohibited.

i was cheated/misrepresented means i was not told about the rules of dealing, i was not aware of the default rules, u know what i m indicating
48. Mannan Raj |   Link |  Bookmark | March 2, 2011 10:40:35 AM
any one have idea about this company, how it is and is it fine to invest in this.