1089. jay here| Link| Bookmark|
May 11, 2022 10:36:50 AM
IPO Mentor (700+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
The only possible way of it being listed with premium is DII buys on the listing day otherwise flat to a little negative possible.Hold even if lists with discount,a must portfolio stock.
1086. PearlRohit| Link| Bookmark|
May 11, 2022 10:06:10 AM
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Jis Company me IPO ke Bad bhi Promoter Holding 96.5 Percentage Hoga aur SEBI ke Rules ke mutabik Future me Aur Share Holding Sale krna hoga. Company ki revenue All Market Players ke Total se bhi jyada hai. HNI aur Institute Investors ne IPO me Invest bahot hi Kam Kiya hai to LIC ka Grey Market Premium jo bhi ho Plus ya fir Minus. Yahi Institute valo Listing Day ke Din Purchase Karenge. IPO ke Din Definetly Rs. 1200 Hoga.
LIC premium ( - 26) yani 45 discount - 26 = 19 *15 = 285 rs. profit per lot...
policy holder 34*15= 510 rs. profit per lot...
policy walo 1.86 lakh wali app ko 45 share yani 3 lot milege hi milege...
retail me 15 share yani 1 lot milega hi... shayad 2 lot bhare ho to 2 bhi mil sakte he...
apne hisab se naffa ginlo... aur kuch profit book karke mudi loss bacha lo..
Koi expert aapke loss ke paise bharpai nahi kar payega... dogle he yaha pe jo valuation aur attraction ke lafde me rahete he... hum to grey ke hisab se chalte he... pahele teji hue 100 premium chuua abhi jab mandi hue aur 20 rs. + wala premium toda to nikal gaye...aaj (-25 to - 27 ) he .. apun rahe chhote admi jo 30 45 hazar jama karke himmat karke apply kare ... abhi ye bade logo ka padhke apna to LIC ka vima nikal gaya na bhai... #sed life
1084.1. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
May 11, 2022 8:28:41 AM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Let us see whether this calculation stands firm till listing date. Markets are very volatile. It is very difficult to predict how much grey market premium finally remains. Maximum shares are in weak hands who have calculated profit as per retail and PH discount. Big fishes know all this. Hope small investors get some listing gain.
Kal Subscription figure aane ke baad lic ka gmp down ho raha hai.
1083.1. Wishal| Link| Bookmark|
May 11, 2022 12:08:08 AM
IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
I think qib response jitna chahiye utna mila nahi & retail 1.99 time usme se jo frst day 0.60 time (around 4400 crore) tha woh fishy tha jo dekhke subko laga subscription to achha ho raha hai apne bhi apply kero Last day pe qib & hni ka jitna chahiye utna nahi hua lag raha Baki market kharab tha fir bhi iska gmp 40 to 50 toh tha hi. Lets hope jo bhi ho raha retailers ko loss na ho
why guys compare LIC with PAY TM AND RPOWER .... EVEN PAYTM MAKES HUGE LOSES AMD PROMOTER DONT KNOW WHEN THEIR OWN COMPANY BECOME PROFITABLE....IN RPOWER WHEN THE IPO CAME IT WAS HARDLEY ONE YEAR OLD COMPANY AND MAKE 70 LK PROFIT ....
IF LIC MAKE NEGATIVE LISTING THEN BRAND VALUE OF LIC WHICH IT MAKES ITS OWN IN PAST MANY DECADES WILL BE ZERO AND MARK MY WORD IT WILL BE NEVER DO UNFAIR WITH ITS POLICY HOLDER, AND SMALL RETAIL INVESTER.
LIC is not doing any unfair treatment for policy holders and retail investors. All is doing by Government of India, which collected huge sum of money from policy holders and retail investors at this time when market is not favourable for IPOs.
1081. Gujju IPO| Link| Bookmark|
May 10, 2022 9:15:28 PM
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Ethos Limited IPO
Issue Date : 18 - 20 May, 2022 Fresh Issue : Rs 375 Cr OFS : 11,08,037 Shares Retail Quota : 35% Face Value : Rs 10
1081.2. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
May 11, 2022 12:19:40 AM
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@manjitsingh, Rainbow to Ethos, hum bhi pele gaye the tum bhi pele jaoge. Market is not in good mood to spare anyone. Be conscious , Abhi capital banane ka nahi bachane ka time Chal raha hai.
1081.3. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
May 11, 2022 12:27:04 AM
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@Arjun Rajkot Gyan Chand person kya bol raha hai , jaroor bataiyega !
1079.5. jajo| Link| Bookmark|
May 10, 2022 6:14:40 PM
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@Arjun ji, I know no one can predict the market movements or the share movements correctly every time. Occasionally some of the predictions can go wrong and the opposite thing could happen due to market sentiments. However, most of the times you are giving very useful information about the price trend on listing day and it helps others. Please ignore any negative comments and continue your good work.
1079.6. ipo share| Link| Bookmark|
May 10, 2022 10:27:23 PM
IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
@ Arjun Rajkot Aap hi batao kya hoga? You can definitely tell about listing.
@RD MEHTA Ji Kya bol rahe hain Bechaare Naye Bhole bhale Investors ka kya hoga? Jo Is Forum Par English Wale Experts k Comment dekh kar Apply kiya? IRCTC Banega??? Chalo Nahin Apply kiya theek hua.
It is understood that all policy holder applications will be allotted shares on proportional basis. Since the minimum lot is of 15 shares, does that mean that all policyholders who applied for one lot will be allotted 15 shares?
For policyholders it is proportionate basis. So if we consider 0.12 time technical rejection out of 6.12 times subscription in this category then
Policyholders who applied between 1 to 5 lots will be selected in ratio basis (1 lot - 1 out of 6 will get 1 lot, 2 lots - 1 out of 3 will get 1 lot, 3 lots - 1 out of 2 will get 1 lot, 4 lots - 2 out of 3 will get 1 lot, 5 lots - 5 out of 6 will get 1 lot) and
Policyholders who applied between 6 to 11 lots will get FIRM allotment of atleast 1 lot and
Policyholders who applied between 12 to 14 lots will get FIRM allotment of atleast 2 lots.
Today felt very sorry for poor listing of Rainbow. In this whole chapter the innocent Retail public gets hurt and lost their hard earned money. Still the Retailers don't come out the Paytm , Cartrade an d so on. Actually we can't decide whether to apply or not and just follows the others blindly and one may have to consider the individuals risk carrying capacity, which we don't. We are just following the others and gets trapped. In LIC ipo the subscription figure of QIB & NII is not very encouraging. In fact the success of LIC is just due to Retailers and policy holders only. This govt is master in PR and they gave the 60/ Rs. discount which attracted the innocent Retailers and policy holders. The clever govt was knowing this fact and they succeeded in their game plan. They sold it at very very high valuation and the the complete funds will be utilized by the Govt not by LIC. Let's hope that we may not see another poor listing of LIC, just like Rainbow, Paytm.....
can you show some data to say its valuation is high? Please compare it with any private player its significantly cheaper than all.
1072.2. antarix| Link| Bookmark|
May 10, 2022 7:32:09 PM
IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
@Maria: There is nothing like 'innocent' retailer in this market. If someone can not find out whether the valuations are high or low then instead of following others, he should just stay out of stock market and keep his money in some FD at 5%.
By the way, just a few days ago, opposition accused government of selling LIC stake at a very low valuation. You are saying it is high valuation.
Mam, I just can't understand how LIC is comparable with Paytm?
Paytm is just few years old App, Loss making and having No assets. If Investors before investing, did not read RHP of Paytm where in it was clearly written that No chance of making profits in future, then who is at fault ? Those who read RHP didn't participated in IPO of Paytm.
In complete contrast, LIC is in existence since 1956, Profit Making, having Uncountable Assets, having visibility for future 15-20 years business ( As policy premium terms are long ), Market Leader, Wealth creator for Government as well as Policy holders.