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1329. i For IPO ☑️ |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 12:38:46 PM
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If Selling Pressure Come By Retail - Policy Holder - Employee

Lic Need At Least 3000 - 4000 Cr Buyer To Stabilized And Move Up.

But I Think Will Be In A Range Of 1500 - 2000 Cr

Which May Lead To Slight Fall After listing And Stabilized

If It List Near 904 And Goes Below 904 Then Their Will Panic Selling Up to 860 To 850.

But I Am Positive About Lic & Govt. It Will List Above 935 And May Travel Upward Up To 950.
1329.3. Ritesh gupta ipo mantra |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 1:43:48 PM
Guys this will go to 1050 in 2-3 trading days.

1329.4. DIVYANG ITO |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 1:57:12 PM
Should List around 960 .Monday there will be 10 Rs GMP as well.. selling pressure will be around 985+ ... Buying will be seen if it goes to 920-930.. range should be 920 to 1005 for Tuesday
1328. Ritesh gupta ipo mantra |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 1:41:08 PM
After listing lic will jump to 1050...so don't execute selling in preopen.
1327. Gaurav Gandhi |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 1:03:04 PM
If you are a trader then apko isse cost to cost sell krne ka mauka jarur milega and paisa isme bnne ka chance bhut jyada Kam hai... because har retailers ne maal utha rakha h ... that's the big reason that share not perform well in short term...even you seen panic as well in short term to exit the retailers as well..
1326. Gaurav Gandhi |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 12:56:44 PM
I am sharing my views on lic ipo
Agar kisi ne iss ipo se paisa bnana hai then apne isee apni lic ki lumpsum installment wali policy ki tarah dekhna hoga...jab ham policy ban wate hai toh around 10-15 saal baad Paisa milta hai..so that's it apko isse ek lic ki policy ki tarah ignore karna hoga then definitely you will get very good returns then lic policy as well....
1325. No limit |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 12:22:17 PM
LIC IPO Listing Date
Listing Date      Tuesday, May 17, 2022
BSE Script Code      543526
NSE Symbol      LICI
Listing In      
ISIN      INE0J1Y01017
IPO Price      Rs 949 per share
Face Value      Rs 10 per share
1324. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | May 13, 2022 1:13:15 PM
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Recall the story of the brahmin who once while carrying a goat on shoulder came across four miscreants in the way.............



PART III

This is the most mysterious IPO of this century.
I have already tried to evaluate its intrinsic value.
But most important thing is that its enterprise value is negative at this price point. How ?

The enterprise value of a company which is the liquidation value is represented as :
Market cap + debt and debt equivalent - Cash and cash equivalent
= 6 lac cr - say 10.7= - 4.7 lac (as per LIC calculation it is slightly positive).

To make it a zero enterprise value company, price of share value should be at least1693. Once we heard its price to be about 2100 now 949.

The significance of a negative enterprise value is that the company has failed to reflect in the market cap i.e the perspective of the market (here negativity is in the perception of the promoter). So share is under constrant for any reason.We know the reason here.It is not weak but weakened.

Howsoever, responsibility vests in the promoter. It is the callousness of the promoter of the company . Such company comes with the tag of a distressed company. Intention of the promoter is also questionable.

Thus dropping the price from higher level to here has made it weak , and from a toy of momentum players to value seekers .

Now take some important points:-
1.Is it appropriate time ? Everybody will say "no"
2.Best discovery of price is possible at a good time .
3. Better price which reflects in market cap , signifies further upmove in future.
4.Distressed seller never to higgle, it should be sold at the first instant.
5. 2100 expected price almost was clear to everybody , GMP was - 32,
now at 949 GMP is in minus . Does it indicate that so much lower price has weakened it to this huge extent ?
6.With the news in the market that LIC shares coming in the market, price of pvt. company shares dropped 14 to 22 % within some days (as I shown in an earlier post) but this time even in a worse market they are firm.
Does it mean 2100 price was bad for them and 949 good ?
May it be a camouflage move by the interested persons ( unko to bhatta baith giya cholo inko sath cholo)?
7. LICHFL was strong at that time as is naturally found but now at lower price of the IPO it is sinking.matlab isko bhi gala daba ke rakh diya .
8. By the time a shoe company (ego juta) blocked over 50000cr,
LIC blocks 49000 cr . Are Ram Ram, humko iye biswas karna hoga ki inko ego juta ka bhi aukat nehi ? Dekho kahan lake khada kar diya !
9.By the time Rainbow, Delhivery (fv =1), Prudent etc have come out with sky kissing valuation. Only a few have detailed knowledge /idea of these companies.
10.At 2100 price point people were enthusiastic about LIC but now in 949 bahut ko nind chut giya ? Kiyu bhai , niche me mil raha he, iye he na taklif.?
Dekho achha share agar kisi karan niche mil jata hai to o bechne ke liye nehi he. Agar tasalli nehi he bech ke nikal jao.
11. In case of Ruchi many were worried who will buy (1% to 14% free share).
They have experienced who buys.
12. In this case question is who will sell. There wil be abundance in buyer.

It is not advisible to buy share of a distress promoter.
Lekin ye banda dushra he apna ghutne for majbut he, kitna kosis kare ghutne tikane ke liye. It has a great public image which is to be translated.

Now how it can list !
1.Operators know that the price is much less than what actually had to be.
2. They know that this company has great image in the public.There will be no shortage of buyer if some confidence is built.
3. They know that everybody knows that its very cheap and sold at a distress and the long term story of it.
4.They know that negative newspread has dispelled the listing gain mongers.This alongwith behaviour of the promoter and its wings , helped for very low subs for nonparticipation of weak hands.There is a mass scale rejection consequent upon stringent implementation. It creates a feeling of missing bus for many who will try to buy on listing day. So shares are mostly in relatively stronger hands. And also there is a concentration in fewer number of hands.Rejected persons and all who have belief in its long term story will try to buy it on listing.
5.For any share to be played on the upside, its listing above price is required otherwise sentiment becomes negative. Even if it lists below, it has to spring up the price and sustain above it .It is the essential requirement. If it sustains below price for quite sometimes sentiment becomes negative.This is all about our experience in this subject.It is also correct that any experience may be challenged by this mysterious IPO.
6 .All pervading negativity including GMP is artificial and created for grabbing it . If operators have intention for playing it on the upside, they will never allow negative listing.So its my firm conviction that it will be tepidly positive to surprise listing even may be beyond our expectation depending on the mode of play.

Khoda na khasta, agar negative listing ho hi giya to samaj ligiye ye ek dushra mouka lene ke liye, don't see IRFC , see RVNL.
Bazar ka unch nich se inko jada sampark nehi he, lekin thoda bahut madat inko liye faldaye hoga.

Infine, BM SURANA SIR,
Sari hisab kitab, numerology, astrology, thikuji , kusti, history, ,Ramayan,Mahabharat , feelings mere samaj ki hisab se apko sri charan me nivedan kor diya.Bas aab apko oonth ka karbat ka intejar me hun.

Mangal ko din sabko mangalmai ho eye mere monkamana.
Achha rahe , khus rahe ,bahut paisa kamaiye
Best of luck

Disc : It is a compilation not any advice.












1324.11. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 5:34:18 PM
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@ B M Surana sir,
Aponar bhalo lagiachhe jania ami khusi hoiachhi.
1324.12. SsSg |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 12:20:29 PM
Nice presentation.
For me long term.

1323. prash ant |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 2:46:50 PM
Rahul G. & Thomas had tweeted that LIC is being sold at a throwaway price. When LIC lists on Tuesday, I hope they and their parties would not throw away the opportunity, and keep buying and buying till price becomes reasonable.
1323.7. Jagadeesh A |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 11:45:13 AM
Pappu Ke Bath Sun Kar Congresswalo Keh Rahe Hai LIC Company Ko Modiji Ne Bech Diya Ambani Adani Ko, Kya HumLog Unake Nazar Mein Ambani Adani Hai Kya... Lol
1323.8. Cautious ProPrio |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 12:04:15 PM
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Sarkar dada famous dialogue ..nutshell of politics coming soon
1322. Common man view |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 11:38:25 AM
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@1325.1
Ashoke sarkar
Thanks gentleman for your suggestion.


Thank u
1321. IPO VISHESH |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 7:38:29 PM
Dear Brothers, Listing 17 ko hi hai yaan 16 ko hogi ?
1321.1. jay here |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 8:23:22 PM
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1321.2. IPO VISHESH |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 11:04:23 AM
Tanks Dear jay
1320. Common man view |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 6:25:05 PM
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@ashoke sarkar

Sir,
It seems u r very experienced in this stock market..is there any value picks in this falling market..for the horizon of next two years....pls suggest..stlll waiting for bottom picks..
1320.1. Asoke sarkar |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 7:03:23 AM
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In response , I like to suggest you not to give much importance to the flowing terms like Averaging, bottom fishing etc. Fact is that an investor should always search for fundamentally strong shares which are technically weak for any reason other than corporate question. You can't trust on the upmove for the next few days. Market most likely will go lower with occasional bounces. Now numerous good company shares are at reasonable price. You should try to accumulate in small quantities at a time. You may pick some of the following :
Hdfc group stocks (except hdfclife) specially Hdfcamc, Herom, Auro ph, infy,bpcl, rallis,exide, lichfl , mgl, acc, LT, BOI (may be disinvestment candidate with union bk)
Axis bk, sobha, ramco, motherson, canbk on further down.
Avoid cyclic shares like steel and sugar at upper price along with absurd p/e and projected new age shares (newly listed).
Thank you.
1319. amarchand goel |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 6:15:59 AM
All those who are talking negative should remember how much the big company can pay, it has got real business and is its leader plus insurance sector is one where a great potential of rxpansion is available considering the size our country has. Not even a single share should be sold by allottee of shares it is full of opportunities full of hope money and growth. Don't sell.
1318. LallanP |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 10:20:46 PM
From discussion, it seems, everyone is selling on listing day.
1318.1. SANDY INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 10:40:07 PM
No not at all.

Some wasted interest persons trying to create panic amongst LIC IPO allottees.
We have to keep safe distance from such persons, that's all.
1318.2. antarix |   Link |  Bookmark | May 15, 2022 12:02:06 AM
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Instead of selling, if, by any chance, it is available below 850 on listing day, I will add more.
1317. Shaktimaaaan |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 3:07:52 PM
To all negative people in and around, do you think Modiji and Nirmalaji will let of their first disinvestment a failure???????
To all lucky people who are allotted with this gem, don't loose hope. You guys will rock on tuesday.
1317.7. B.M.SURANA |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 10:17:29 PM
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HAL ka IPO Rs 1215 March 2018 Kya Haal tha 3 Varsh tak??? Sabko Pata hai.
1317.8. amit K singh |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 11:08:46 PM
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Most of billionaires, super rich, MFs hold their money in equity..LIC holds equity in most of Indian companies.. some of it's top holdings are in many top growth companies like RIL, TCS, Infosys, powergrid, oil, ongc, cams, sbi, icici, L&T, ITC,... list goes on..

for LIC to list in discount, Indian stock market has to crash..more than govt, super riches will definitely not want LIC to list in discount ..

1316. Investing for a better tomorrow |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 11:00:34 PM
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With all this negativity, I'd like to tell everyone I made a folly with selling rainbow in panic, and continue to regret the losses...

This is a portfolio stock like ITC, coal India, HDFC.... This will continue to give returns for a long time...
So my honest suggestion/opinion is that don't sell it even of it lists at a discount... The market sentiment is awful and may remain for a few days, bit it will bounce back and when it does, we will all regret not holding this quality stock in our portfolio.

If you have been allotted more than your holding power then sell whenever it's green but hold on and don't let the Qibs/MF's accumulate at a discount like they fooled many of us and accumulated Rainbow like many other great stocks
1315. rsk |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 10:14:28 PM
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Dear Admin,
Kindly upload BoA as asap or by Monday if possible.
Hear that anchor book was oversubscribed, not how many times.
Thanks
1314. i For IPO ☑️ |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 6:56:04 PM
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Don't Worry Guys

As Lic Brought Others Psu And Loss Making Company Stocks To Support Company (In Influence Of Govt).
Now Other Company Will Definitely Come Support Lic.
(In Influence Of Govt)

First Company Is SBI.
Sbi Insurance And Sbi Mutual Fund

Second Company Is Canara Bank
Canara Bank Mutual Fund.

Other Govt Influence Company Will Come To Buy On Listing

1314.1. Ashish Khater |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 10:06:45 PM
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Kis duniya me ho Bhai Tum. Govt ko paisa raise karna hai jo wo kar leta hai by all means it can. Govt has already raised the money it intended. Hopefully domestic institutions Will come and absorb all the selling that will come from retail and NII. Even a notional profit will be ok. Otherwise retail investor will always be away from stock market.

Disc: Alloted 2 lots and will sell on listing. Will buy again in future if the stock Sustains above issue price.
Jai Jinendra....Jai Shree Ram
1313. 🎯 Big Bull 🎯 |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 7:22:42 PM
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Experts Please share latest GMPs...


Thank u
1313.1. antarix |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 8:45:53 PM
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GMP is (-) 15. (from issue price of 949)
1313.2. Stock advise |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 9:32:02 PM
Grey market koi officially to h ni.. Sabke apne ghr k gmp h. But abhi -15/-17 chr raha...
1312. amarchand goel |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 8:11:34 PM
I have two lot allotted of LIC what should I do. Should I sell and save rest or what the experts would like to suggest. I can sell my 30 shares in 30 trades too by selling one in each trade
1312.1. jay here |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 8:24:41 PM
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Not an expert but suggest you to hold atleast one lof if you can hold without seeing its price on a daily basis.
Thanks.
1311. 🎯 Big Bull 🎯 |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 7:21:03 PM
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Experts Please share latest GMPs...


Thank u
1311.1. Iponahimilraha |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 7:40:19 PM (200+ Posts, 400+ Likes)
(-13)
1310. Monster Zero |   Link |  Bookmark | May 14, 2022 6:51:52 PM
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Assuming everyone (HNIs+RIIs) sells at issue price..there should be MFs and big players to pick it with 10500 cr in hand. Now the Qibs subs were 2.83 and HNIs subs were 2.91...
I'm confident that discount listing is not possible but Tuesday will show that.
Just gonna put sell order for 2 lots in pre-open and 2 lots in 2nd half