Share market obsession is dangerous thing for men. Even knowing it is PSU and may not give profit, I still bought one lot (only @890) just for sake of holding share of biggest IPO. Many were positive about LICI but it failed to lift mood. 500 profit will also do and will exit, Now i worry with all the scrips which are not able to defend even issue price on listing day. Rainbow will show color or not is also doubtful (4 lots with me) Not everyone has the patience of nourishing Sandal Tree for 10 years to make it old and Gold as we live in fast time of not only the likes of Tata Elexi, Adani (...) but also the likes of Stove Craft ,EaseMyTrip - criticized ((🤐)) ones
1628. abc xyz| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 10:19:06 AM
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Shame on Management/ Govt who could not mannage the good listing of Biggest LIC, all investors confidence shattered
It is general public here who valued issue at 2100-2200 and then 1670 then 949
This all was planned by members here
Govt extremely happy to take exit at 949 with this bumper figure of 21000 crore. It is only public who takes loss through mutual fund and direct investment into equity
Big players have no loss
1628.4. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 4:45:58 PM
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@Iponahimilraha Every seller wants to maximize its profit, chahe wo koi bhi ho. no one shows mercy in business. But let's pray that those who have put faith in LIC, they get benefitted. At least it should trade above its issue price after all big talks. Thanks
@iponahimilraha Do you remember that you had compared this ipo with irctc. Hope you might have earned a lot of money here like irctc. I hope that you might have got lot of allotment. Now change your title as "ip0milrahahai" Enjoy
@Wishal U also handle 33 different individuals bank accounts and mobile numbers?
1623. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 12:57:19 PM
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ab sarkar ko kosne se kya fayda, see what happened to recent rainbow (a pvt entity) , its still hidden in cloud and listed in discount, the market sentiment is weak otherwise in Lic (psu) govt tried it best to give first timers and ph/retailers a chance to exit on some profit. The truth : The demand is low and profit booking is rampant.
Is this profit booking or distress selling in losses. Govt. tried to collect as much as it can from policy holders, employees and retail investors giving them some discount, because it was Cristal clear that FIIs didn't showed any interest in the IPO. 70% of anchor portion was subscribed by local mutual funds and institutions. Again major QIP portion was also taken by local mutual funds and institutions.
1623.5. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 2:06:47 PM
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@Lokesh Sir,, Aap bhi Sir, kaise sawal puchte hain. as i had already said that 'i MAY apply',, so at last minute i did not applied. I was praying that i would be wrong and those who put faith in lic would be rewarded and may be in future (not clear when), i only did not apply by seeing callous nature of sarkar when it tinkered repo rates after noticing that LIC ipo will sail through. That was my breaking point. So i backed out.. Still i feel that pricing was very competitive and not mouth watering. It was like you quote the price of an article upto 4 times and upon objection by purchaser you decides to make it half, still you are in huge profit but purchaser sees it like his victory. Had it wanted to sell to a big name, would have been sold it a real throwaway price like we saw in public sector Central Electronics (CEL) electronics sold to an unknown entity named as 'Nandal Finance'. Thanks.
1623.6. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 2:15:13 PM
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yeah Pro Sir, . Asoke sarkar Sir to guru hain. can't utter a word against him. it's just recently i am trying to mix English with hindi due to a gentleman named surana Sir. Nothing against him. kahi English me likhne/bolne walo ko log desh se pyar na karne wala bol de. kya bharosa.
1623.7. Jetha Lal| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 2:15:28 PM
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Ek sarkar aur bhi hain idhar forum par🤭 Saam tak aayenge khud ko justify karne aur lambi lekh likh kar apne ego ko satisfy karenge 😂😂
1623.8. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 3:21:09 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@k.atar: my above comment was in fun bhai as i added smiley.... And in general all meaningful views/posts from everyone should be welcomed and all constructive comments and discussions on that view/post (not just appreciations ) should also be welcomed.
1623.9. K.Atar| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 4:10:29 PM
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@Lokesh Sir, yeah i know sir. took it in right spirit. Thanks
ipobull. There is no guarantee that this will stop at 750. If new investors buy see the discount listing, they will have to book loss at 750 and this will continue till the buying does not stop. There are a lot of investors still holding shares. They are yet to see.
Today market performed very well. In this market condition also LIC performance was very poor. I think if market were on red today then LIC performance would have been much worse. Anyways it given opportunity to exit by both retailor and PH who looked for short term. Looks like recovery will take good amount time.
as per SEBI rule, within 18 months ,promoter holding needs to be changed to 80% atleast . so in this 18 months again we can expect this stock (LIC) to go little bit down .
correct me if i am wrong
1617.1. Jetha Lal| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 3:34:36 PM
IPO Guru (1000+ Posts, 2100+ Likes)
LIC got relaxation from this rule: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/ipos/fpos/finmin-sebi-to-take-call-on-relaxation-in-lic-meeting-minimum-public-holding-norm-dipam-secy/articleshow/91179189.cms
They buy cheap oil from Russia. Still the rate at the pump is 120 due to which inflation is so high that the RBI governor shows his Shakti whenever he wants. I don't understand this promoter. I am sure they will start selling after 12 months. 600, 500, 400 no limit. I will not be surprised if they change LIC act to bring the holding below 50%
Hello Everyone, Why Lic ipo fail ? Here is the reason: 1) PSU Companies has never given return In past 25 years of history. 2) Retailers have faith, but not FII and FPI. 3) Bank FD has given return more compare to PSU Company for holding. 4) Higher issue price. 5) Current scenario is Barish. 6) Insurance companies have too much Chalangies. 7) Volatility in the market. 8) Even if you hold the shares you Will get minimum return after long Period of time.
This are the few reasons, I was telling issue will list in discount. Buy some good quality stocks from secondary market which will give you good return compare to LIC.
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May 17, 2022 3:24:34 PM
IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Moneycontrol news: LIC to focus on boosting policyholders’ returns, says chairman.
Mr. Chairman, थोड़ा शेयरहोल्डर के return पर भी focus कर लो I
1613. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 9:51:43 AM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
discount listing to almost confirm hi thi, but at least 900 se upar to list hota.....its too much.....no profit for even retailers/policyholders at this listing price....hope it comes above 900 today and doesn't go rainbow way....
@Lokes and All Sold all 48 PH Shares at 905 Rs. Booked profit of 700 Rs....
1613.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 10:43:05 AM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@have faith: Regarding rainbow, ya its very disheartening to see that, that's why please follow stoploss always or sell partial in some loss/profit after ipo....i have sold around 75% in first 2 days and remaining i was trying to sell daily morning with around 5% up orders but couldn't sell....it broke listing day low also today and going down even with good markets in last 2 days.....seems no new buying interest....considering FY22 PE, valuations were not expensive and it should be performing well in long term if financials sustains/grow, but really no idea why its still going down so much in short term and when it will recover. I will try to sell my remaining shares on any bounce.
Thank you @lokes ….first time i took risk in a low subscribed ipo with big investment and it back fired very badly …..any good recommendation to buy in place of rainbow as most of the shares are down ?
I was busy in morning so could not see listing. but again a flopshow, at least listing wise... I sold 63 shares @ 902, and put a stop loss @ 896 for another 63 shares. will hold 2 retail 15 shares allotments for some time.
@IPOINPUT.. yes sold 63 @896. I still have 30 shares.
@Lokes did you sell your retail LIC shares ?
1613.12. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 12:32:23 PM
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@avenue: 2 retail applications still pending, remaining all [48+15+15] sold in morning....i had kept sell order at 905 for remaining two applications...lets see if it comes, else will try to sell tomorrow morning above 900.... @have faith: i am buying mostly blue chip large cap companies only from last some days in small quantities like titan, reliance, maruti, asian paints, bajaj finance, axis, icic, sbi, hdfc, hdfc bank, infy, and other than that, i have added few shares in AWL, aarti industries, latent view, tatva chintan, kims, irctc, clean science, voltas, jubiliant foodworks, d mart etc.
And everyone please invest/apply in ipos as per your own risk/capacity only, specially in average companies with average financials/subscriptions/gmp etc. Don't go on other comments in forum and don't get carried away to apply in hni category since minimum allotment is 14 lots there if allotted so risk/reward is bigger. Even after rainbow, people are betting big with so many multiple hni applications in venus pipes too , everyone has different risk capacity anyways and slowly people will understand to apply carefully after some ipos. Even campus is not able to sustain from higher levels and going down daily along with rainbow even in good markets. So holding large no. of lots with us without stoploss can be too risky, so always apply carefully and book complete or partial profit/loss soon on listing or in some days or keep some stoplosses.
@lokes As you recommend clean science for investment, please share time horizon for it and possible target. My holding average is 2175. Others Hindalco, TTML, ASAL, Seacoast shipping (all are down by approx. 20%)
Logged in late, booked loss, sold all 158 shares (48 ph 95 hni 15 retail) at around 881, never sold any ipo on listing day but after ABSLAMC debacle (still holding), I guess once bitten twice shy Disappointing flat listing in green market, but as discussed here govt tendency to bail out other loss makers using lic will make this stock a laggard
1613.17. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
May 17, 2022 3:23:14 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
sold one more retail lot at 881.....now only one retail lot is pending from my minor daughter account.....
I still could not understand with policy holder and retailer discount how much is the loss. It was expected to be in range of 900-925 but kept in range of 875-900. What's a big deal . Have patience it will declare huge dividend in the result day. Let's panick retailer exit