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725. tejas j shah |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 8:08:43 PM
721. GOOD BROKER
Opinion changes with change in events. L&T Finance IPO came at 2.05 times its book which is expensive in comparison with IDFC. so no analyst can say its subscribe call. even udayan has commented that pricing should be around 45. But this L&T group has goodwill so there is a scope of listing gains. That's why people like me has subscribed the issue with 2 full application.

But when i have seen the fii numbers on last day its a disappointing. the grey market premium come down to 0.5-0.75 paise level. also there is a report of fight between leading two merchant bankers. lastly market collapsed.

due to this unfavored incidents i decided to withdraw my application.

This is not a case of misguiding but is a case of smartness. here every one has liberty to express their views. if u like u can accept otherwise move away. but u have no right to blame some one & don't do this
724. SAJAI |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 7:07:30 PM
Good stock, Reasonable price.,Branded

Strengths:

1. Diversified and balanced mix of high growth businesses.
2. Strong distribution network, with a presence throughout India.
3. Experienced management team and employees with a proven track record of establishing and growing new lines of business.
4. High quality loan portfolio comprising the funding of mainly income-generating assets and activities.
5. Good financial and capital position, as well as access to multiple sources of capital .
6. Strong parentage and brand equity of L&T.

Waiting for blockbuster listing. ....... .. . .

best of luckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

723. patelankit s |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 7:05:21 PM
don't listen anybody's comment about listing of l&t finance beco'z it is lt group not like reliance which lost investors like rpower
i will definately say it will list above +20%
722. IPO PREMIUM |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 5:21:47 PM
READ NOTE S
VIEWS OF TULSIAN

Not a topper

Tree House Education is entering the capital market on 10th August 2011 via a fresh issue of 84.32 lakh equity shares of Rs.10 each, priced in the band of Rs. 135 to Rs. 153 per equity share, with a Rs. 6 discount being offered to retail investors. The issue, constituting 25.01% of post-issue paid-up capital of the company, closes on 12th August and will garner Rs. 112-127 crore for the company.


Tree House Education runs 223 pre-schools under the ‘Tree House’ brand across 33 Indian cities, catering to the 1.5 to 6 years age-group of the education segment. Two-thirds of the pre-schools are operated by the company, making it the largest self-operated pre-school chain in the country, while balance one-third being franchise-run. Of the total pre-schools in operation, 104 pre-schools (or 47%) are located in Mumbai alone, signifying the geographic concentration of the company’s operations. In addition to pre-schools, company also serves the K-12 segment by provides educational services to 12 schools in 4 cities through exclusive tie-ups.


For FY11, company reported revenue of Rs. 39 crore and earned PAT of Rs. 9 crore, resulting in net margin of 23.43%. On equity of Rs. 24.02 crore, it earned EPS of Rs. 4.09 for fiscal 2011. With a net worth of Rs. 123 crore, as of 31st March 2011, company had outstanding debt of Rs. 47 crore, as of date.


While its cash and bank balance stood at Rs. 28 crore, as of the latest balance sheet date, one fails to understand the urgency or pressing need for the company to go public currently, given the utterly fragile secondary market conditions. Moreover, in April 2011, company has already raised Rs. 19 crore via preferential allotment to existing PE investors and a Mauritius entity at Rs. 150 per share.

The promoters hold 39.47% of the pre-issued shares, while PE firms Matrix Partners and Foundation Capital hold 35.64% and 11.46% respectively, on the pre-issued capital. Post-IPO, promoter shareholding would decline to as low as 29.60%.


Of the issue proceeds, Rs. 42 crore is proposed to be utilised to establish 120 new company operated pre-schools in top 10 Indian cities by FY14, while Rs 40 crore will be utilized to establish 2 education complexes in Jhunjhunu (Rajasthan) and Vadodara (Gujarat). About Rs. 27 crore is planned to be spend on procuring exclusive right to provide education services (K-12 segment) to 7 schools, Rs. 29 crore worth loans would get re-paid and corporate office would be purchased for another Rs. 14 crore, from the funds raised.


While the company has reported healthy growth over the years, its valuations in the public offering look extremely aggressive. For the Rs. 135-153 price band, shares are being offered at PE multiples of 33x and 37x respectively, which is double the valuation enjoyed by listed companies operating in the education sector.


Take for example, Career Point (having gone public last October) had a topline double of Tree House at Rs. 79 crore for FY11, PAT triple at Rs. 27 crore and a healthier net margin of 35% vis-a-vis Tree House’s 23%. In addition to being a debt free company, Career Point is currently ruling at a PE multiple of 17x, market cap of Rs.530 crore and enterprise value (EV) of Rs. 507 crore. On the other hand, Tree House is expecting a market cap of Rs. 500 crore at Rs. 153 per share, on listing, and an enterprise value of Rs. 515 crore.


Even taking a broader call on the entire listed education space, companies such as Educomp, Everonn, Core Projects, Aptech, NIIT are all ruling between PE multiples of 7x to 15x, thereby indicating no justification for the issue to be priced in earnings multiple in mid-30s for a company with topline of less than Rs. 50 crore. This is clearly very aggressive valuation, by all means and counts.


Given the extremely volatile conditions in the secondary market and the issue’s exorbitant valuations, Tree House is a clear avoid.







721. NIFTY FIFTY |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 5:20:19 PM
New Banking license this month. Dont sell l&T finance (ZEE BUSINESS)
720. GOOD BROKER |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 5:14:34 PM
715. tejas j shah Aug 10, 2011 2:44:38 PM IST | Like (1) | Report Abuse
with reference to your views i never misguide and then try to guide people to withdraw the application like ohers
if the issue is good i say it is good


719. Harshad Makwana |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 5:01:35 PM
L&T Finance Holdings to list shares on August 12.
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/ipo-issues-open/lt-finance-holdings-to-list-sharesaugust-12_575058.html
718. Nis |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 4:47:53 PM
DEAR JITKUMAR,

CHECK UR HDFC BANK BALANCE.
IT HAS BEEN CREDITED BUT TODAY END OF DAY WILL FINALLY CREDIT IN LEDGER BALANCE.

THANKS.
717. tejas j shah |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 4:41:14 PM
709. NEELABH PAREEK
Are you saying that L&T will be listed around 85 levels as it is underpriced. then on friday you can buy tonnes of shares around 50-55 levels. Just ready for that opportunity
716. tejas j shah |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 4:19:17 PM
694. STAR IPO KING

if you want to follow vivekbhauka you can. no one has asked you to provide your special comments regarding other member.
715. SAJAI |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 4:00:38 PM
listing its equity shares on exchanges on Friday, August 12.
714. tejas j shah |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 3:44:38 PM
698. GOOD BROKER

The IPO’s which are coming from 2001-2007 are available at reasonable valuations & that’s why after subscribing to the issue we never need to withdraw our application (except for Cairn). But afterwards the scenario change & almost issues are coming at stretched valuations & not leaving anything on table.

Some of expensive IPO’s from 2008 onwards also have provided decent returns on listing day (IPO like Sita Shree Food, Aishwarya Telecom, Thinksoft, Tirupati, Microsec, Cantabil, Sea TV, Gyscol, Acropetal, sudar, finotex, shilpi, servalakshmi, Timbor).

If you have taken advice for these ipo’s no one can say subscribe on fundamental basis but still they have provided decent returns. To take benefit of this kind of IPO’s you need to follow Grey Market Activities which needs continuous review & if Grey Market Premium is not moving as per our thinking we need to withdraw the application.

This strategy followed by lot of board members with help of Shreedhar & Benefitted. The Concept is to create a board where lot of people can exchange their views & create wealth

I really advice you to follow moneycontrol.com where you can find only subscription related advice (after giving subscription advice they never say to withdraw). As you are very much busy follow this portal only
713. Wealthtree |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 3:16:37 PM
Hello Dear Friendz if any 1 know grey market persons message me persons name and address on: 09321859059
712. IPO PREMIUM |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 2:49:18 PM
do not panic there will be listing gains beware of such persons who have vested interest to hamper the issue
some people have discouraged public to apply only because they have ego
note the nifty levels when the issue came in
25/7/11 5700 high 5616 close
26/7/11 5574 close
27/7/11 5546 close issue opens
28/7/11 5487 close
29/7/11 5482 close issue close
30/7/11 anoucement at rs 52
2/8/11 5446 close
3/8/11 5404 close
4/8/11 5331 close
5/8/11 5404 close
8/8/11 5118 close
9/8/11 5074 close
with the nifty going down 700 points from the high people are likely to get nervous as they have 500 to 5000 shares in the l&t finance ipo
premium grey market is rs 2 to 2.5
711. hiren deputy |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 2:34:13 PM
I GOT CREDIT OF REFUND AMOUNT IN UBI.
710. TEJENDRA SINGH SHEKHAWAT |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 2:25:09 PM
sreedhar bhai,
plz advice about l & T finance,i have 1059 shares in three a/c.though i have no t followed your timely advice
TS
709. Rajnikant |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 2:15:54 PM
when we will get refund ? i want to apply for shriram ncd .any comment please
708. NEELABH PAREEK |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 12:40:15 PM
All investors & followers of Chittorgarh.com

Please answer my questions ??????

1. Has any body is there who is not thinking to apply for LTFHL IPO at time or any one who is not looking for holding good stock....

2. No. of person with alloted with less shares than their expectation for this IPO...Please tell about your experience with allotment . are you happy with this allotment or you are looking for more shares..

3. Is LTFH is less worthy than inventure growth IPO..

4.Is this is not an negative attitude or hype about LTFHL.

Dear friends, share market is all about sentiments. Those persons having allotment in LTFHL are thinking same..
Those who lost this opportunity to apply for this IPO are creating Hype..

Believe me It is not at all Overpriced....... It still underpriced....LT can charge more than Rs 85/-.so keep your faith in this...
707. NEELABH PAREEK |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 12:31:54 PM
All investors & followers of Chittorgarh.com

Please answer my questions ??????
1. Has any body is there who is not thinking to apply for LTFHL IPO at time or any one who is not looking for holding good stock....

2.
706. MM |   Link |  Bookmark | August 10, 2011 11:58:08 AM
L & T FINANCE HOLDERS will get Rs.65 dont sell ...
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