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125. keyur patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 25, 2011 3:09:31 PM
WHAT IS LETEST GREY MARKET PREMIUM OF L&T IN AHMEDABAD
124. vsingh |   Link |  Bookmark | July 25, 2011 12:03:03 PM
GMP 2800 BUYER SHARE 6-7
123. Ckshah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 25, 2011 11:34:24 AM (200+ Posts)
min lots size 100 and in multiple
122. b a |   Link |  Bookmark | July 25, 2011 11:19:57 AM
good issue,name of l&t is sufficient for apply so applyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
121. SK CHOUDHARY |   Link |  Bookmark | July 25, 2011 6:36:23 AM
SREDDHAR,
CAN ANYONE SUBSCRIBE FOR LISTING GAIN. IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT WOULD BE SUBSCRIPTION FIGURE IN RETAIL SECTION. YOUR PREDICTION IN THIS REGARD ALWAYS COMES TRUE. REPLY
120. bangalore king |   Link |  Bookmark | July 24, 2011 7:28:02 PM (400 Posts)
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/features/investment-world/stock-insight/article2288015.ece?homepage=true
119. Santosh. |   Link |  Bookmark | July 24, 2011 6:39:25 PM
S P TULSIAN view on L&T FINANCE IPO-

"L&T" tag is reason enough!
L&T Finance Holdings is entering the capital market on 27th July 2011 to raise Rs. 1,245 crore via a fresh issue of equity shares of Rs.10 each, priced between Rs. 51 to Rs. 59 per share. While Rs. 120 crore of the issue size is reserved for L&T shareholders, Rs. 50 crore is reserved for L&T group employees, the employees alone being offered a discount of Rs. 2 per share, reducing the net IPO size to Rs. 1,075 crore. The issue represents 12.5% of the fully diluted post issue paid-up capital of the company at the upper end of the price band and closes on 29th July.

Although the Rs. 51 to 59 is a wide price band of 16%, the effective price band should be read as Rs. 55 to Rs. 59 per share for all practical purposes, since the company has concluded a pre-IPO placement of 6 crore shares at Rs. 55 per share in early-July, raising Rs 330 crore for 4% equity dilution. All these prices are however much lower than L&T’s subscription to 6.3 crore shares of the company at Rs. 67 per share in September 2010.

A 95.94% subsidiary of L&T Limited, it is the holding company for the following three businesses conducted via wholly-owned subsidiaries:
L&T Finance – retail and corporate finance lending with loan book of Rs. 10,157 crore as of 31-03-11
L&T Infra – infrastructure financing with loan book of Rs. 7,186 crore as of 31-03-11
L&T Investment Management – mutual fund business with AUM of Rs. 5,200 crore.

This IPO from L&T group is the first since 1950, when L&T went public. As a gesture to reward the 8 lakh plus shareholders of L&T, a reservation of about 10% of the issue size is being made for them, which is a shareholder friendly move.

L&T Finance Holdings has a strong retail reach with 837 points-of-presence spread across 23 states. It reported total income of Rs. 2,111 crore and earned PAT of Rs. 393 crore in FY11, resulting in EPS of Rs. 2.87 on equity of Rs. 1,417 crore, as of 31-03-11. With a networth of Rs. 2,891 crore and BVPS of Rs. 20.40, the company’s loan book stood at Rs. 17,400 crore of which 41.44% was towards infrastructure financing and balance towards retail and corporate financing. For FY11, company’s RoE stood at 13.58%.

While the company’s CRAR was 16.34% versus RBI-requirement of 15%, its asset quality has not been compromised with growth. While the business has grown steadily, net NPAs have declined over the years. Net NPAs of Rs. 40 crore (0.53%) in infrastructure finance group and Rs. 79 crore (0.78%) in the retail and corporate finance groups are well within industry standards.

With an IPO grade of 5 on 5, representing strong fundamentals, Rs. 1,575 crore raised via the IPO and pre-IPO placement will be utilized to repay inter-corporate deposit issued by L&T to the company of Rs 345 crore and Rs. 515 crore and Rs. 485 crore will be infused in L&T Finance and L&T Infrastructure Finance respectively. L&T’s shareholding in the company will decline to about 83.92%, post-listing, if the book is discovered at the upper end, from the present 95.94%.

Coming onto the valuations of the issue, at the upper band of Rs. 59 per share, shares are being offered to public on a price-to-book value (PBV) of 2.23x, on a post-money basis. On listing, company will command a market cap of Rs. 9,960 crore, at a price of Rs. 59 per share. This is an attractive valuation for an NBFC, when compared with other listed peers. Although no apple-to-apple comparison can be made with L&T Finance Holdings since no company, presently in the listed space, offers both infra and retail and corporate loans on a significant basis, a blended valuation of few NBFCs will help in the benchmarking.

IDFC, India’s leading infra financer with Rs. 37,000 crore of outstanding infra loans, is ruling at a historic PBV of 1.9x while the country’s largest commercial vehicle financing NBFC Shriram Transport Finance with AUM of Rs. 36,000 crore is currently ruling at PBV of 3.2x. M&M Financial Services, another NBFC with strong retail presence and AUM of Rs. 15,200 crore, is quoting at PBV of 2.9x. Thus, taking a composite view on the price-to-book multiple, the IPO pricing seems attractive.

With NBFCs currently being the flavour of the season among marketmen, as we have seen good performance for stocks such as Bajaj Finance, Shriram Transport, M&M Financial, to name a few, coupled with L&T’s unparallel brand and parentage, the company looks promising given its historic growth and the impetus which the additional capital inflow will provide to the business in the coming quarters.

We recommend the IPO and advise subscription at the upper band of Rs. 59 per share.

118. GOOD BROKER |   Link |  Bookmark | July 24, 2011 11:31:54 AM
THOSE WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN GETTING SHARES OF L&T FINANCE SHOULD APPLY FOR SHARE HOLDERS QUOTA THE LIMIT IS ABOVE 2 LAKHS SO THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD TO BLOCK MONEY FOR OVER 2 LAKHS CAN DO SO ALSO THIS WILL GIVE GOOD AMOUNT OF SHARES AND LISTING GAINS

REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE ARE MISQUIDING INVESTORS NOT TO APPLY IN THE FORUM IN BHARITYA GLOBAL SITE REMEMBER HOW PEOPLE WERE MISQUIDED IN VASVANI ISSUE AND THE MONEY IS BLOCKED IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MINOR LOSS BUT NOW YOU KNOW THE FATE OF VASWANI ISSUE
117. tejas j shah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 24, 2011 10:24:59 AM
101 Mas
Book Value of L&T Finance stands 20.4 Rs (Pre Issue) & 25 to 26 Rs (Post Issue)

Price to Book Analysis                  
Co. Name       Book Value      M Price(22-07-2011)      P/BV
L&T Finance       25       51       2.04
L&T Finance       25       59       2.36
M&M Finance       244.7       717       2.93
Shriram T Finance 216.37      698       3.22
Sundaram Finance 325.22      552       1.69

Company caters to all sectors for finance needs while those peers are focus on single sector, so diversify company also having subsidiary like L&T Asset Management Co.

Still into Initial phase of operations, growing at much faster pace, good parentage will add some value & can provide listing gain

116. mr.india |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 8:04:09 PM
LISTIN GAIN KE KIYE IPO SUBSCRIB KARO.
115. mr.india |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 8:01:19 PM
isme kammaee nahi hogi pE ratio bahot uncha hai.
114. mr.india |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 7:45:17 PM
ye IPO bahut mahega hai. isme mango co. le gaee. gotlee hamare leeye chod gaee
113. harishkumar |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 6:17:19 PM
ISSUE IS VERY VERY EXPENSIVE.
112. commission |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 4:44:33 PM
WHAT IS THE BROKREGE +COMMISSION SLAB IN L&T FINANCE LTD....... MY BROKER STILL HAS NOT INFORMED ME REGERDING THIS. NOW I AM ALSO A SUB BROKER AND I ADVISE EACH AND EVERY INVESTOR TO HAVE HIS OWN CODE SO THAT NO CHEATING CAN BE DONE BY UR SUB BROKER. IT IS FREE.....
111. Investors Friendly |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 4:22:12 PM
Hello everybody,there will be huge subscription like that occurred in rel power. here people only looks the group(brand) don't look into the fundamentals.likewise tata steel also sold there shares in fpo at the rate of 610.lead managers think people are fool and i think they are correct because people again and again apply in the ipo only giving weightage to the group not the fundamentals.
110. Rakesh jhunjhun |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 3:25:17 PM
L&T is much fancy compare to Muthoot ! ! !
chances of allotment ? ? ?
109. Sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 1:26:57 PM (900+ Posts)
Dear SK Dash,
Here is a look at L&T Finance holdings:
1)Promoter L & T infused 425 Cr through preferential allotment in Sep'10 @67 per share.
2)At 51, a dilution of 14.18 per cent stake (not including the stake sold to Capital International) and a post-issue valuation of Rs 8,778 cr, At 59 the issue will involve a dilution of 12.5 per cent stake, with a valuation of Rs 9,960 crore.
3)NAV was 20.4
4)Major part is Infra finance group which constitutes 33 percent of the total revenue
5)Retail & corporate finance group constitutes 66 percent which includes Microfinance,Retail ,transport funding,corporate funding ,mutual fund distribution etc.
6)Broad spectrum of financial services
7)Based on post equity capital of 176 Cr & Net profit of 392.5 Cr its EPS=2.22 per share.
8)The average Industry PE is 10 L&T PE=55/2.2=25

Here is how the Peers stackup,Comaprison March 2011 annual:
Shriram CMP-700 ,eps 53.93,Book value 216
Mahindra Finacial-717,50.93,244
idfc-141,8.77,76.97
REC,PFC rule at 7-8 PE
Book value is comparable to most of these NBFCs but PE is way too high.its only strength is its diversified business.While shriram caters to only vehicle finance,IDFC is infrastructure specific & so on.
We can compare L&T fiance to a bank & even here it is ruling at a premium to Axis,ICICI etc .The strong point is it has grown at a faster rate compared to all these peers hence higher PE.But comparing the book value it is fully priced in.
Like all other financial shares this one is a good buy for long term.My portfolio mostly consists of banks as I am most bullish on India growth story & hence banks.
As per listing gains they will be muted since Issue is fully priced
108. SkDash |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 9:58:06 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (1000+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Can anybody put a report on financial/ valuation comparing peers/ fundamental of this IPO for informed judgement?
107. A LA |   Link |  Bookmark | July 23, 2011 4:20:30 AM
Dear friends,

L&T Financial IPO:

It is mandatory to bid L&T shareholders bidding under the L&T shareholders reservation portion for a payment amount of above Rs.2 lakh to participate in this issue through the application supported by blocked amount (ASBA) process.


106. Gane |   Link |  Bookmark | July 22, 2011 10:08:22 PM (400+ Posts)
What is the benefit of applying in share holders quota apart from getting more number of shares?

Is it possible for the share holders to get discount price compared to others? Then it is interesting. Otherwise, what other advantages?

Gane.