Jyoti CNC Automation Limited IPO Message Board (Page 29)

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Off topic:

My personal opinion, there is excessive froth or bubble in the markets be it IPO or secondary.

Every tom dick and harry is running like anything.

In my opinion excess liquidity and FOMO is the sole reason for the same.

I personally believe to withdraw money from markets including MFs also.

I will be proved wrong for some time, but in the end these valuations cant sustain, specially IPOs.

Biggest loss will be in MF investments who are making hugh investments in every IPO irrespective of valuations, when dust settles, NAVs will crash.

PS: As anybody else, I may be proved wrong as markets are always mysterious.

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@CB
You have wanted to know my view about the LIC share. At this increased price point many friends are opining for four figure.But it is a fact that many have booked losses and some others are worried with the fate of this share and more what to do at this point of time. I am not prepared to concentrate on this share as it is in my long term portfolio and I shall not sell any single share.
My observation is as follows :
If you are concerned with it's price only then
1. Around 15/11 ,it made a day low of 598 ; on 24 /11 it closed at 677 while the previous day high was 617. This journey stopped at 815 on 14 /12.
2.Not to forget that it happened amidst the large breaking news that LIC's profit has dropped from 15000 cr to 7500 cr Q2 yoy.
3. So it's quite clear that the interested group played with this drop. Certainly common man who has seen a low of 530 will think several times venturing in the bargain.
4.Then on 21/12 at night , the news of relaxation of MPS came. The share opened at about 810 against previous day close of 761 but couldn't move beyond 820 and made a low of 781 within two days wherefrom a new game started to bring it to 864.
5. On 2/12 and 3/12 LIC got two GST notices total amount being about 1400 cr. Hue and cry raised . A TV channel comment ed ZOMATO ko 400 cr ka notice mila ,iska to 800 cr kya hoga !
6. It remains mentioned that LIC collects Gst from the policy holders and pay it to the department.
7. In sept Behar Govt claimed for gst of about 100cr. More interestingly, in Oct 23 end Jammu and Kashmir Govt claimed for gst of 36844 cr .Yes such a big amount. Their contention was in some vouchers less than 18% gst is paid while 18 % gst is chargeable for term insurance and health insurance only. The cases are pending and these four cases will be challenged as LIC has informed.
8. Now one can understand that it is not any big news. But market is news bound. So it is played. It may continue for one two more days .
9. So this share is now in a critical juncture. Some who have been stuck with the IPO or later have exited finding the price convenient and some will exit in this doldrums. Thereafter the play may be found suitable for those who have brought it to this level from the low. They may not leave it so easy but may extend with this drop.
10. Anybody who is not capable of holding it for long term should exit as people may take even 4/5 years to understand it's value.

Now what value it has :
1. At this time LIC has total of 49 lac cr assets keeping it's enormous property in book value.
2. Out of this 43 lac cr is policy holders' liability, rest is share holder's. As per news in media 2 lac cr non participating liability is to be released which will come to the share holders.
3. Now LIC's market cap is 5.28 lac cr. EV may be some 6 lac cr.
The value of LIC's property which is kept in book valve may be far more than it's market cap.. Nobody knows the actual figure as market value of property which is essential precondition for calculation of EV , has not been done by the company till date.
4. Whenever we go to take any decision/comparison about/of a share/shares ,we see the valuation elements like eps ,p/e, BV, P/BV ,ROE,ROC etc.
But you will not get any such figure for insurance shares as a class. ALL zero. P/BV infinity. Then how you can take decision/comparison ?. Nothing. Still others are quoting at high price.
5. If you are intelligent enough , you may get eps by price divided by income. But it has no recognition. Simply go to BSE site , you will get the said data for all except insurance shares.
6. Now come to an interesting point . As per DRHP of the IPO BV is Rs 12.01 ,and eps Rs 4.01. People began to cry eps 250 etc etc.
7.As per March 23 notional eps per share is Rs 65. So p/e is 13. Pvt companies quoting at 60 to 90. List ke bad kya miracle ho giya 4 se 65.
What about book value? Over 100 years pvt companies looted people that amount +45 years of monopoly business + 22 years new era business .

8. Well , forget everything . Which company is the largest beneficiary of PSU vis - a- vis other shares in current bull run ? All others are miles away from LIC in this game. LIC has huge stake of PSU which have given folded return. Huge stake of others also with dream return. Try to calculate it at your end.
9. There is an unlisted company LIC AMC which manages all that 49 lac cr . Someday it will also be listed which you are getting free today. LIC has 45 % stake in LICHFL which is a pvt company and you are currently getting it's benefit.

Still I believe that people will take time to understand the real value. There will be hue any cry time to time on trifle matters. If you have confidence in it's value which is very clear you should stay ,otherwise there are many shares in the market.

Disclo: I have a stake of 453 shares at 616( after trading adjustment). Last four months I have not done any trade.

Recently I have bought 125 shares at 760 with the tide.
I am not willing to sell any share.

Thank you

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Hi @KAMMA SIVA RAMA KRISHNA ,@PLAZA ,

Could you please let me know how to participate in buyback?

Thanks in advance

Thank you.

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Year 2023 was excellent for IPO and 2024 is expected to be better (in terms of money to be raised).
This will make many promoters to offload shares at very high price. Beware of such IPOs.
There was a famous saying from a CG member to many IPOs in year 2011-2013:
"It will koot you!!!
It will loot you!!!"Apply in only IPOs with good business and reasonable priced.

This was my punchline in those days

This will kooot you
This will looot yoy

Glad to see you still remember.

I dont use these days as mostly IPOs are making money for investors,but when time will come, i start this again

Out of topic
​@newgen consultancy @KAMMA SIVA RAMA KRISHNA @PKRAJ @Basuvr  @all other respected members,
In buyback single share strategy, applying through multiple accounts of same account holder (same pan linked) will work?

Thanks in advance☺️

​@JSK✨ Sir,
Thankyou

No

Elon maast bhi ye hi tha

​@JSK✨ , I believe admin must have some notifications to track spam and they might be taking manual actions. Let @Admin @ Chittorgarh.com to confirm if they like to reveal or give hint.

As for automated spam triggered block is concerned, there must be weightage based on who is raising spam again whom! Otherwise a mischievous group of users might exploit to ban some of most respected seniors whos information are our eyes and ears for the IPO mania. Members fulfilling criteria (Ex: Membership age. Likes, Spams) only should be considered.

Agree @CB🤗!

Quotes as goal:
- Something is always better than noting!
- It is better to have a bad plan than no plan!
- There is no perfect plan, all plans are continuous. Start implementing with smaller steps and keep improving!

Any GMP in this one ?

GMP will heavily fluctuate if more or less +ve and -ve sentiments and fake/real GMP present in any company.

​@JSK✨  makes sense...thanks

Mother and childcare e-commerce platform **FirstCry** is about to launch its IPO. Softbank Vision Fund, the largest shareholder in FirstCry has unloaded major shares of the company ahead of the issue.
Family offices of Indian Cricketer Sachin Tendulkar, Ravi Modi of Manyavar, Infosys co-founder Kris Gopalkrishnan and TVS group family are among the buyers who have purchased the shares in the company according to available news. Through this deal Softbank has collected about 600 crore ahead this issue.
Even before this the family offices of Ranhjan Pai (Manipal Group) Harsh Maliwala's (Marico) investment office and Hemendra Kothari's DSP family offices had picked up shares in **FristCry**.
According to preliminary reports **FirstCry** is planning to launch its IPO most likely after the Lok Sabha elections, which is expected to spark boom in the Share Market.
Many big names are likely to join **FirstCry** also. May be a big IPO. Amitji is already endorsing this brand.

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Innova captab bhi boom boom 💥💥 hoga mark my words

Sir,fair copy me mark kijiye, please

Sir me fair copy classmate(ITC) ki use karta hu usame me agar meri pen(cello) se mark karunga to Innova cap tab fit nahi bethega isliye sorry 😀

Expected subscription....

Bhni-13-15 times..
Shni-70-75- times..
Retail -40-45 times...

#jyoti cnc automation limited ipo...

Current gmp -85 seller

13-15 time is after ÷5. Or alse 70-75

oh okayy you have calculated the final prob niceee

Dear All,

I am holding 3 sme stocks in my portfolio namely-
1. DMR hydro
2. Sonu Infratech
3. Precision Metallik

Can anyone guide me what should be the action plan with these?
Thanks in advance.
​@newgen consultancy

​@newgen consultancy Sir please review rbz now. it is going as per your prediction about post listing.still worthy to hold or profit booking should be done here.

Thankyou @newgen consultancy  Now I will hold it for long term definitely on my own risk appetite

​@newgen consultancy Sir, any view on Manoj Vaibha(MVGJL)?

​ @CHipoGARH  alias mukesh elon adani

There is no shame in seeking help for your mental health, get well soon.

Few links for you to improve, hope this helps

https://mhanational.org/mental-health-treatments

https://familydoctor.org/different-types-mental-health-treatment/

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I have filled a complaint against him si ji in cyber crime he has today crosed every limit...

​@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com  I am filing and police FIR against this guy crazy xyz and i will file an complaint in syber crime also .

Ye derpok girgit hai, bahurupiya,naam badal badal kar forum pe aata hai,

Sir me ne kachi fir taiyar ki he and send to cyber crime also un ne kahi name rakhe he crazy zyz, newzen chor,mukesh alon adani etc same id he us ka me ne screenshot sab k le liye he us ke i have uploaded it to cyber branch email...

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150 to 85 💔 stay away from greay..

Latest GMP is 90,

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Tu kya chata he bhai tu sabit kr na chata he ki tu
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