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547. RJ Rocks |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 6:39:10 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (400+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Got 4/7 in retail
2 - third party allotment
546. mann investors |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 5:32:50 AM
Expected listing 150+ or more or less?? Market looks ok now as already fall a lot from top so for short term limited down side and if market in good condition chance of 150+ is possible... but looks like good company to hold for considering its parent company performance...Share your view so we retailer can take better decision...
545. Trueinfo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 5:04:54 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 1700+ Likes)
0/4 bHNI.
544. Masters of IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 4:24:13 AM
1/2 Big Hni
1/2 Small Hni
2/8 Retail

Maa Laxmi Ki Kripa Hamesa Aisi Bani Rahe 🙏
543. Suraj Jais |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 4:00:36 AM
Bhai 10x retail and 14x sHni me bhi na nikla. Kabhi to kabhi to lgta hai sab fraud chal raha hai
542. Prajwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 10:44:14 PM
0/3 SHNI
0/1 BHNI

Also, one question senior members.
If i apply more than 14 lots in SHNI from a single PAN , will my chance of allotment increase?
I know applying extra lots in retail doesn't increase chance of allotment...
542.8. Krishna T |   Link |  Bookmark | October 1, 2023 12:27:28 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
@Prajwal 

Shortly in BHNI:

1. [Average lot] If issue subscribed X time and your applied lot meets with X then 1 confirmed lot of ~2L amount of shares!

2. [Lottery] If average doesn't meet then lottery based 1 un-confirmed lot of ~2L amount of shares (sHNI)!

3. Rest shares proportionate/lottery (some changed by SEBI recently but don't have strong example considering we may fall into 1 or 2 point in above and don't know how internally it would have behaved).

The difference is that BIG HNIs application pick probability is more than Small HNIs because more shares are allotted in bHNI but 5x application amount as well than sHNI.

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Ajitansh Kar, Gurugram, 5 July 2023

The Securities and Exchange Board of India (SEBI) released several new regulations in the process of Initial Public Offering (IPO) of securities in Indian markets a year ago. Many are still confused about these restrictions, particularly the change in the allotment process of subscribed securities.

Previously, there were three primary categories in which anyone might bid for a public offering: retail, High Networth Individual (HNI), and Qualified Institutional Buyer (QIB). Applicants in the retail category were allowed to put forward a bid of no more than two lakh rupees. The allocation for this category is determined by a lottery mechanism, which has not altered with the introduction of the new criteria. QIBs are institutions and businesses that have been designated as such by SEBI due to specific norms and regulations. They have the right to make bids of no less than Rs. 10 crore on any public issue. In any issue, they have the most securities available for subscription. The allocation rules in this category have stayed mostly unchanged.

Previously, the HNI category included applicants who make applications worth more than Rs. 2 lakh. The allocation rules for this category were extensively changed. Previously, allocation in this category was based on the proportionality of the shares bid for. For example, if an IPO was oversubscribed, all bidders would get all the securities applied for. However, if the issue was oversubscribed, say 100 times in the HNI category, applicants who registered for 100 lots of the issue would definitely be assigned a single lot of the issue. This was a huge problem, since these HNI applicants acquired short-term unsecured loans from numerous NBFCs for no more than 15 days in order to apply for IPOs and increase their chances of getting shares allotted to them. This resulted in immense oversubscription in several high-demand IPOs, limiting regular people who applied in the HNI category from receiving allotment in their chosen issue. For example, during the bidding stage, a defence business by the name of Paras Defence was oversubscribed by as much as 950 times in the HNI category, making it both difficult and doubtful for the applicants in this category to receive any allocation.

The allocation guidelines for this category have been altered by SEBI to deal with this problem. Following the implementation of the new regulations, the HNI or Non-Institutional Investors (NII) category was split into two categories: Small NII (applications between two lakh and ten lakh rupees) and Big NII (applications over ten lakh rupees). A minimum of 15% of every public offering is set aside for thus category, with one-third going to sNII and two-thirds to bNII. Since there is no assurance of allotment, the proportionality-based allotment approach has been changed to a lottery system, making it challenging for borrowers of money to apply. For instance, all the securities will be distributed to bidders in accordance with the shares requested if an IPO in the HNI category (including sNII and bNII) is undersubscribed. On the other hand, a lottery system will be used to decide the allocations if the issue is oversubscribed, regardless of how large an application may be. Even if one receives an allocation, it will only be for the category’s basic amount, which is Rs. 2 lakh for sNII and Rs. 10 lakh for bNII category.

Many individuals think that SEBI’s action was clever because it allowed many underfunded investors to participate in the HNI category allocation process and allowed many people to invest in a public issue. However, this action has also caused a significant drying up of bid requests for issues in this category. In contrast to Paras Defence’s 950 times oversubscription, IdeaForge, a recently completed IPO with huge Grey Market Premium (GMP), experienced only 80 times oversubscription from HNI investors.

Thus, SEBI’s new guidelines for the HNI category have brought about a sense of balance and stability in the allotment process of IPOs in this category.
542.9. Prajwal |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2023 10:41:56 AM
Thanks @Krishna T Ji for taking the taking the time and giving such a detailed reply. 🙏
541. SatishReddyIPOInvestor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 2:06:33 AM (200+ Posts)
Damn 0/11 in retail, I thought I can get atleast 1 badluck for me
540. Disciple |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:19:02 PM
Hi All, I have a query:-

If I have seven different demat account of friends and family, is it necessary to use different upi ids for every respective demat account application? Or can I keep the amount in my bank account and use my single upi id and approve the request for their demat applications?

Does these factors affect allotment chances?
540.3. aandy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:25:52 AM
it would be better that u use diff upi id for diff acc.
540.4. Bhumika |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 8:27:28 AM
Better to use different upi ids for peace.
539. SHINE |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:21:12 AM (200+ Posts)
DEAR INVESTOR,SUCCESSFUL ALLOTMENT OF 126 SHARES AT RS.119.00 TO APPLICATION NO.002E129450081844 FOR JSWINFRA. FOR DETAILS, PLEASE VISIT YOUR REGISTERED MAIL BOX. REGARDS, BSE TEAM

Allotment out
T+3 started
Very good to all
Congo all for allotment
538. Tejas Pandya |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 10:48:02 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2800+ Posts, 2200+ Likes)
Hard to digest..
1/10 Bhni
Where allotment chances was 1 out of 3.5😂😂
ચાલો ન મામા કરતા કાણો મામો સારો..
538.33. Equity Man |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:15:11 PM
I got 0 out of 3 BHNI. Bahut dukh ho raha tha. Fir aapka msg dekha. Ab digest ho gaya. Duniya mein kitna gam hai, mera gam toh fir bhi kam hai :)
538.34. Tejas Pandya |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:35:21 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2800+ Posts, 2200+ Likes)
@Equity Man @nerajshivhare Jaisa mera @Always Be positive ji ka message dekh ke ho gaya..😁
537. KSRao |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:52:45 AM
I have received an email and message stating that I have been allotted 1764 sharees for my SHNI application. However, the payment status is showing as failed in my UPI app (PhonePe) due to UPI payment limit set by my bank (SBI). Lien is still showing in the bank.
Any suggestions how to proceed further. I don't want to lose my allotment due to pathetic process, first time I have been alloted in SHNI.
537.1. Makhu |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:02:29 AM
Don't worry bro... just keep sufficient balance in your account...same happened with me in RR kabel allotment and the money deducted after listing of RR kabel.Just keep sufficient balance bank will debit it itself.And the payment failed because upi limit is only 1 lakh for 24 hrs.So payment will be debited direct from your account. Lein may also be removed by tomorrow but money will surely be debited from your account.and no need to worry about allotted shares they will undoubtedly be credited to your demat account.
537.2. KSRao |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:19:05 AM
Thanks a lot @makhu for your reply. Yeah, lien amount is already there. Hope it will be debited after lien is removed.
536. Rishi.ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:19:02 AM
1/4 Bhni
0/1 shni
4/38 retail
535. Always Be positive |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:12:58 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Thread for low allotment against 1 out of 3.5 BHNI ratio
Pls comment if you are not satisfied with allotment against the desired ratio.
535.2. Jamnagar IPOholic |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:12:46 AM
Usually i don't believe in comments regarding setting in Allotment as I know it is purely luck base..

But received 0 against 1bHNI & 5 sHNI..

While reading other members comments such as 4/5 bHNI , 3/6 bHNI, 2/5 sHNI.. sometime doubt comes in mind...

Anyway, hard to digest but have no choice to move forward..
535.3. Rishi.ipo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 1:16:47 AM
How do you manage 2.7 crore 27 accounts without third party? That’s sounds unbelievable especially for the amount of profit expected!
534. CASuraj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:29:46 PM (200+ Posts)
Anyone applying from HUF account. I recently opened the account with Kotak Securities and JSW was 1st application. My order got rejected, I don't know why, will speak with Kotak tomorrow.

Could it be due to name mismatch, my PAN card has (HUF) and account name is just HUF.

534.9. Manikj |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 9:32:50 AM (300+ Posts)
Krishna T
Bracket is a special character. My many application got rejected by bank side due to special character.
534.10. Krishna T |   Link |  Bookmark | October 1, 2023 12:08:28 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 900+ Likes)
Is this just your assumption or got clarification from the bank/demat/registrar as well?
533. GrayIsTheNewBlack |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 9:48:02 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2200+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
As per one reliable source involved in the process, allotment will be uploaded before 11 pm today.
If not successfully done, it will be uploaded tomorrow morning only.
Let's hope it comes tonight 🤞
533.7. Mr. Agrawal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:57:42 AM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (500+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Would redeem the principal and keep free shares... I haven't kept any shares post listing day till date in any ipo but at the same time regret it ... got kaynes, archean in bhni sold at listing day but who knew it would run like this.... do you hold any previous allotments ??
533.8. GrayIsTheNewBlack |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 8:18:35 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2200+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
@Mr. Agrawal , that's fine we won't know in advance what is going to happen.
Just follow one rule either sell on listing/hold for long term/book partial profits.
On an average the returns will be same if you do one of the above things consistently.

Personally, I usually need funds for upcoming IPO's so have to sell on listing always.
I've just held on to NetWeb (due to its AI exposure) but the decision seems to have backfired as of now.
Rest all I have completely exited on listing.
532. aandy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:07:15 PM
2/6 Bhni
Now lalach will rule my mind.
Should i wait for long term, should i sell on listing, should i sell 1 lot etc etc.
Considering 60x Qib subs, demand will be there.

Can anyone give der opinion abt ths stock?

nuksaan ma ubha rehvani full himmat che but nafa ma pag haali jaay che.
532.5. aandy |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:49:13 AM
@Lokesh Chiru Thnx a lot for the detailed analysis. It will help me to hold for long term with good gains.

@BullBull i have never tried this, but worth trying

@Tejas Pandya prob e che ke apanne top par aj vechvu hoy ane bottom maaj kharidvu hoy, but market badhano baap che....bhalbhali samaj undhi paadi de

@NATTU congrats for allotment

congratulations to all the allottees.
Hope we all get good profits.
532.6. Seth. |   Link |  Bookmark | September 30, 2023 10:53:23 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1100+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
@aandy Same condition here 🥲
Alloted after two years and now having tension what to do on listing day...

I know JSW is good fundamentally but After all no one knows what going to be happen with stock price
So fear triggers me to sell early and greed stopping me for selling to get more 🥲
531. Vasubhai |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:46:53 AM (300+ Posts)
Tejas pandya@

Same to you .
Congratulation.
Hope for best listing.
530. Kingsmen |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:48:47 PM
1/1 SHNI
0/5 retail

Happy to see my first SHNI allotment.

Thank you God 🙏
530.1. Sasip |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:36:00 AM
@Kingsmen , Did you apply in both categories from same demat account?
530.2. Kingsmen |   Link |  Bookmark | October 9, 2023 9:06:28 PM
Shni only with my account other retail with family members account
529. IPO SHODA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:22:23 PM
0/5 retail
1/2 shni
1/1 Bhni

Feeling lucky ✌️
529.1. Anshujii |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:43:31 PM (500+ Posts)
You are seriously lucky
529.2. Sasip |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:34:34 AM
Did you apply in all categories using same demat account?
528. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2023 11:43:09 PM
Funds also unblocked. Just checked Bank Account. One of its kind. First time in the history of IPO.
All the best to all who got allotment and got fund so early. Now funds available. So be very careful in applying available IPOs and SMEs.
Protect your funds. Early available funds will create more over subscription of coming and running issues.
528.1. PKRAJ |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2023 12:28:18 AM
Let's wait and watch the other IPOs and SMEs allotment and unblocking of funds strategy by other Companies.