Does anyone hear remember JSLL Ipo. In that too subscription was low but gave decent returns. @mravi sir and other experts give a opinion
92.1. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
September 4, 2022 4:15:54 AM
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In that HNI was more than retail and that was a big plus point and it came at a time when every ipo was having good time.... Ravi ji can provide a better picture on this..... And I don't thinkk I will get any allotment in ipo as like before, still I believe this will open in green .....
86. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 2:27:45 PM
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last time, this type of situation came with swaraj and kn agri which is coming now with ameya and JFL , and most of us went in swaraj leaving kn agri and that didn't paid of well....so if someone has money to apply for 40 lots or more then better to try in ameya, and if someone has money around for 20-25 lots only then better try with JFL....
Just being inquisitive @lokes as 4-5 sme would have listing on same day on 8th.... Do u think it would effect their listing?
86.2. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 2:41:18 PM
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True, listing also can affect as all attention will be one Ameya
86.3. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 3:59:36 PM
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@Takamichi : yes some impact will be there on listing.
Anyways i have taken some risk and Applied 10 lots here and applying 10 lots in jay jalaram....since i don't have money to apply in ameya, luck wont favour mostly with small (20 lots around) HNI application so didn't tried.
I have gone with 3 retails in both....but luck anyway don't favours me.... Have missed even 1 lot in syrma with 3 retail and 1 shni and even in Naruto with 4 applications....so don't have any hope here...if I get any it won't be good for others as only sme allotment i have got is healthy life and it opened 11 percent in red ....
@kami done with that way back in 2016...now i cant find enough anime to have my apeitite done..... So where did u apply Ur last lot? JFL or Jalaram?
86.8. Kami| Link| Bookmark|
August 31, 2022 9:03:00 PM
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@takamichi Well i am sure our anime watchlist will outlive us for sure Not gonna lie when I see @anantg msg on jalaram nothing was opaque anymore
86.9. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
September 1, 2022 1:07:19 AM
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@kami r u into animes? Is ur name from komi can't communicate? @anant ji mostly exit on listing and he puts his order at around lower circuit to exit smoothly..... So even if he is not invested in this is ok.... Ravi ji has aplplied 65 lots and he is positive on it and he very rarely sells on listing And it's lead manager is gyr which has given listing gain of more than 5 percent with even avoid and low subscribes sme ipos this year..... no negative listing on its name this year..... Overall I am.positive about it..... Anything can happen on listing day but it's a good ipo till it lists
86.10. Kami| Link| Bookmark|
September 1, 2022 8:25:25 AM
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@takamichi
yeah i know that strategy of anant ji I think that give me cushion like it's not gonna be super high or super low, (smooth and profitable exit ) anything positive is appreciated that is if alloted Indeed mravi sir 65 lot application gave me confidence and lokes sir's 10 lot too, I am a weeb no shame, what about you? Komi-san is not the reason I used Kami as a pen name Kami is mononymn, Kami means paper (thin , to be fold into origami), god , and hair Although I used this as a analogy driven adjective! Mindset-to be moulded It's fun to read japanese literature. Ps- komi-san can't communicate is fine anime.
@kami ya I am sort of otaku.... I get cravings for watching anime and webtoons.... If I am alloted here I would keep it for a quarter.....won't exit on pre-open.... With limited funds have to decide properly which sme to keep n which one go exit..... I will get one of JFL and sell my KCK.... Its not showing any movement.... Would give it 2 weeks and would sell it if there is no movement Btw What all stocks r u invested in? I have fone4(😭), usa seed, agni, kck, kn agri, healthy life, silver pearl ....
86.12. Kami| Link| Bookmark|
September 2, 2022 1:53:09 PM
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@takamichi Seems quiet good strategy I recently started applying in sme I have been applying in mainboard only i have kept mostly my alloted ipo Tega, mapmyindia, Supriya, data pattern Campus, paradeep,aether, syrma and dreamfolk now I sold Supriya and data pattern cause couldn't sell tega on time, i wish I was in forum on that time could have made more smarter decision Now waiting tega and map my india to reach acceptable lvl to sell, Rpower, canara bank, globusspr, ibfibeam , (latentview it was revenge buying)😂, and couple more on pf I have been stuck on cybertech for 7 moths now, U got whole sme aresenal up your sleeve, fone 4 was bumer innit, i haven't been alloted any sme yet, well my confidence is building will buy in preopen if i found good company and guidance from respected member like you,
@kami I have just got one ipo which was healthy life.... I been applying for 1 year now with 3 demat accounts.... No ipo in mainboard and only one in sme that too listed in red at 8.9 and is still struggling..... Most of my buys r from pre-open..... Except Agni and silver pearl which I bought when it's continous LC broke...I was expecting silver pearl to behave like Sonu infratech and reach its ipo value...but it's still struggling.... All ur recent IPOs r performing very nicely.... Campus crossed 500 aether and paradeep had good time yesterday
Ya many of us think we should have found this form much before, now the competition has increased quite a lot than before even in smes..... 😅😅....
Ya as I can remember @ravi ji went all out for swaraj than kn agri..... I hope he would get on greener side on this .... My best wishes.... I wanted to apply in this but seeing the numbers I am very skeptical.....I have got only one some ipo and that also listed in red....so I prefer pre open buy much more now with these numbers....
3 to 4 sme's are going to list at same date. Except Ameya it's tough for rest all to put some premium on screen.. unless there is a some kind of operators game or promoters push.
@ Noorul, @ Ravi sir, pls advise how to place the order in pre-open? So far I never tried this. Nowadays am trying to place the order in HDFCSec, but it's asking me to enter the price. How do I know the share price(pre-open) on the IPO listing day?
@ravi ji being mute audience at start helps to learn and remember things ..... .... it's much better than jalaram....don't know why such low subscription....jay jalaram is 10 crore and this is 18 crore ipo.... So this can't be the only reason for low turnout here....
83.11. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 7:52:34 PM
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@Mravi sir: Good luck for brave bet....i will also be allotted here 1 lot minimum for my 10 lot application as mentioned in other thread here. Lets see how it will list.
@ Lokesh ji & Other experts, can you pls advise how to place the order in pre-open? So far I never tried this. Nowadays am trying to place the order in HDFCSec, but it's asking me to enter the price. How do I know the share price(pre-open) on the IPO listing day?
@Shanm , In preopen need to quote your Ask price which should be with in the allowed range. We can sense the price around 9:40 AM on listing day and place the order around 9:42 AM (cut off time is 9:44 AM) . That said, the price may vary drastically in last couple of minutes, it is based on demand. All the sell order will get executed which as less than equilibrium price (listing price) and the sell order with equilibrium price will execute based on the buy order availability.
@Takamichi -san, Good to know, you were a silent observer and following closely the forum. btw, you are spot on, about the low subscriptions: because of Pharma sector and another one is people still hurt from Glenmark Life sciences performance . (the name 'Life sciences' made a big impact). all the best to you to get more SME's and great listing.
@lokes, Thanks for the wishes. I committed this bet as my sme folio most of them are flying high recently. your once favorite 'Bombay Metrics' is now 985 and who knew it will go past 'BEW'. Holding 95% of SME's still (you knew most of them of course). Wish you good luck for future IPO's allotment and great listing.
7 Retail in JFL & 5 Retail in Ameya. I was busy in the afternoon so applied in the morning itself. Hope the bet doesn't go bad. Let's see.
83.16. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 31, 2022 3:00:50 AM
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@shanm: you can check here. https://www.chittorgarh.com/ipo/ipo_discussions.asp?a=1190&c=482750&ap=0
@Mravi sir: thanks and ya am keep seeing prices of many of our starting times sme's ;) like kotyark and bombay metrics etc :) last time when we discussed about bombay metrics, it was around 550 levels now crosses 950 too... Anyways i am also getting most of the profits in my portfolio in sme's only as mentioned in other thread here and sometimes other than ipo, i keep buying and exiting as per my opinion in recent sme's...
@ravi ji.... Thanks to recipocate....by that means i should call u and many here as senpai ..... Have learned a lot from u..... Particularly to trust the company and buy in pre-open..... How u made thousands of share buy in aether and syrma in recent times made me have more trust in those 2 at the time of listing..... I was about to buy 200 shares of syrma but when I saw u going for 6000 I went with 300 more and it sure proved to be a right decision
@Takamichi-san, Thanks for those kind words and you are 'Junior lokes' in memory. I am impressed.
Happy on 'syrma', 'aether' - both gave great returns for those allotted and bought in pre-open. (very glad to note that you increased your purchase on syrma, after seeing my message)
p.s: where is @Jetha Lal, missing him here for long time now.
Thanks
83.19. Takamichi| Link| Bookmark|
September 1, 2022 12:56:23 AM
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@ravi ji I am still in later part of my student life in addition to work for the govt, so still have to work on my memory and knowledge
Lokes bhai is a like a main board ipo and i would be a ittu sa sme....
Looking forward to more of ur messages here and learn from it ....
80. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 29, 2022 12:48:01 PM
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Today also strong move in skp, fidel, precision... I knew precision will have good follow up after last day move , as per past experiences so i again bought it at 32 levels today, around same levels i sold my allotted lot some months back.. Now i am holding skp/fidel/precision and usaseeds which is also going strong.....shigan is still not performing from so many days from my portfolio.... Sold my prevest today which i bought at 311 rs....holding kn agri also now and propequity also which i bought some months back at 159... holding safa systems too....missed to buy krishna defence at low levels...thinking to buy lemerit again at 68-69 levels for similar good upmove in future...
80.1. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
August 29, 2022 1:44:13 PM
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Thanks for your holding update @lokes sir it will defiantly gives much clarity to many investors likes me, Whats your takes in Swaraj I am still holding from IPO level, ITs keep hovering around 45 to 50 level.
80.2. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 29, 2022 8:55:29 PM
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@mehul: swaraj i was having 2 lots and was lucky to sell one lot at 86 (highest price of that) and next one i sold at cost price of 56 rs.... it is not performing now and moving in the range from long time, similar to le merit. In my opinion, have patience and keep holding , it will also give some good sudden upmoves like recent others but can't say how long it can take. Company/businees was good for swaraj.
80.3. MehulStk| Link| Bookmark|
August 29, 2022 11:19:48 PM
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Thanks for the valuable suggestion, Will keep holding till next result hopefully it won't disappoint as last one.
80.4. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 30, 2022 12:15:32 AM
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shigan also finally moved up good today...around 12%....best day for me today in 2022 for my portfolio, up 3.62%...
hi Lokesh, Thanks for your valuable updates on this forum.I want your advice on buyback.I am doing birlasoft buyback for the first time with my broker .26th Aug was the record date for acceptance. My funds are blocked since one month .We had bought shares and sold same shares in future.but my broker is not releasing funds as saying 7th Sep would be last date and then only fund will get release .My problem is I am LOOSING interest on Savings account everyday and opportunity loss to apply in any ipo be it dreamfolk ameya jfl and even the one which will be coming on 7th sept .Cant I release my funds now as record date over for acceptance for birla soft .Plz guide .I am too much tired of this buyback.
80.7. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
August 31, 2022 2:46:53 AM
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@kundan: i sold it some days after ipo when my stoploss was hit around 75 levels when it started coming down from higher levels....its dealing in agri-commodities and also in exports side of agriculture products, it should have gain in recent times due to global food shortage but its moving in same range from some months, results were not good last quarter but over FY22 results were better in comparison to FY21 , in my view it should perform well in future once breakout above 68-70 levels, so better to keep holding and see next quarter results...
@reet: i am not taking part in buyback from long time neither tracking. Anyways for your general query in birlasoft buyback, 26th august was the last date for share acceptance. You are mentioning your funds are block but in buyback, we tender shares and shares are blocked until settlement is done , so i am not understanding how your funds can be blocked. Settlement will be done around 2nd/5th sept then you will get money in your bank account for the accepted shares and remaining unaccepted shares will come in your demat account.
80.8. Ou Ai| Link| Bookmark|
August 31, 2022 9:20:30 AM
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@Reet From your query, it appears you bought shares post buy back announcement exclusively for tendering to derive benefits of higher buyback price. In the past, I wrote many times that buyback is a means of benefiting shareholders by distributing the surplus cash aiding those invested over a longer period with holding at historical prices. Those buying shares post announcement end up with higher prices , hold till record date, followed by another wait till buy back letter is approved by exchanges. Once offer opens it is another 3 weeks time. Overall entire process takes about 2 to 3 months. So money is blocked for a quarter. With meagre acceptance ratio mostly at 8 to 15 %, leftover shares discounted price loss overtakes small benefit accrued in accepted shares. Later it is a long wait for left over shares climb back to purchase price. It is really not worth considering that most buy backs ended up nursing leftover shares at such low prices , it is either a wait to recoup blocking funds foregoing interest and other opportunities or booking loss. Many examples like Star cement, Nucleus software, TCS, Ajanta, Macmillan and so on.
Investors who used their acumen in selling shares in futures applicable only to those available in F&O, saved themselves loss in TCS on left over shares. But remember, this was only to protect capital and not making profit. Honest opinion, in a buy back, if one already owns shares invested much earlier with historical prices, take the benefit of tendering and replace the accepted ones at lower prices again at post buyback . I follow this. This provides an opportunity to sell at buyback price higher than market and more importantly long term capital gains totally exempt. With LTCG limit at 100000/ per financial year even post grandfathering, this exemption is handy and is also a reason for many company to offer buy back where in promoters too tender reaping this advantage.
So for retail to enter post buy back announcement is not really worth it. Trust this is informative.
Seems only after MRavi sir’s Hni application, it reached around 4-5x. Some other people also might get influenced & applied. Best of luck sir, should open green.
@Abhii, I am not sure (but if so, I Hope it’s not a bad influence) Thanks for the wishes, hope it will list 5-10% gain
Thanks
79.2. Abhii VPG| Link| Bookmark|
August 31, 2022 12:02:24 AM
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Definitely not bad influence sir. Was never talking about it negative side, influence as people who were convinced earlier about JFL lost their confidence with subs figures & then finally got some courage when there was a push in HNI figures.
I thought of applying 2lots here when compared to kore from last few days but changed my view by seeing sub figures. Skipped this one and applied 2lots in kore
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August 30, 2022 3:54:25 PM
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Single bid of 28 lakh shares applied at 14:52 today.