The Employee Portion got over-subscribed almost 50x. Employees are the best people to know about the prospects of the company. It will definitely list at a huge premium and is a gold mine in the long term.
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January 24, 2021 10:57:22 PM
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I believe that
Employee portion was highly oversubscribed because were little portion was allocated to them. Shares under Employee Quota: 1,92,307 Total no. of share(excluding anchor): 1,24,75,05,993 On percentage terms this is 0.0154%
IFRC has only about 26 employees who are eligible and about 50 lakhs worth of shares were reserved for them. Not sure but I think that the upper limit each of them can bid for is 5 lakhs. If we assume that each one put in the max bid then still it''s only about a crore rit?......the current cutoff bids are worth about 20 crores alone. Either I am wrong about there being an upper limit to their bidding amount or a lot of non irfc railway employees mistakenly applied too. Could anyone here please confirm?.....genuinely curious.
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January 24, 2021 11:54:26 PM
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upper limit for employee is 5L So total is Rs. 13Cr if they apply full Still the subscription figure is more than what it should be.
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January 24, 2021 11:59:38 PM
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Not Rs. 13Cr. But Rs. 1.3Cr
And Rs. 50L was reserved for them so it should be oversubscribed by 2.6 times only.
Scrip Ji, you miscalculated a bit......it would be 1.3 cr not 13 cr......and isn''t that way less than the sub figure. Guess the railway employees who could not participate in irctc ipo misunderstood.
The shares may be less in terms of % of total but not in absolute numbers. IRCTC had 1.6L shares for employees. IRFC has 1.9 Lakh shares. IRCTC had its employee portion oversubscribed 6 times. IRFC''s Oversubscription is 8 times more than IRCTC.
The reasons can be many (IRFC''s price is 1/12th of IRCTC). But high oversubscription is an indication of things in any case. The meaning of employees portion getting oversubscribed is different that oversubscription/undersubscription by other categories. Employees know the pulse of the company way more accurately than others.
I would say that response received by employee portion will always be a better indicator of things to come compared to other EXTERNAL categories.
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January 25, 2021 12:17:03 AM
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Yeah I miss the decimal between 1 and 3.
And I truly agree that employees knows the know-what of the company and their subscription figure may act as a barometer.
I believe that the company is gud and performing gud too and it would list on a very crucial time i.e. union budget and any gud news will have positive results on price.
Yup....expecting a positive listing too....fingers crossed.
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January 24, 2021 9:31:03 PM
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repeat message As per newsitem The GBS sought by the railway ministry is about 7 per cent higher than GBS of Rs 70,250 crore allocated for the financial year 2020-21 in last year''''s budget by Finance Minister Nirmala Sitharaman. It may be noted that the GBS was at Rs 69,967 crore in 2019-20 and Rs 55,088 crore in 2018-19.
A railway ministry official told BusinessToday.In on condition of anonymity that the ministry has made a budget representation to the finance ministry with higher capital outlay this year.
"In our budget representation, we have pegged the total outlay for Railways at Rs 1,80,000 crore for 2021-22 to the Ministry of Finance. Out of this, GBS of Rs 75,000 crore has been demanded," the official said.
The total capital expenditure for which representation has been made by the ministry is 12.5 per cent over the previous year''''s budget estimate on the outlay. The ministry, however, is hopeful that the government will approve Railway budget size of at least Rs 1,70,000 crore, which essentially will mean a 6 per cent increment in the size of the Railway budget. Balance shortfall will be met mostly from IRFC
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January 24, 2021 8:01:16 PM
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At what time tomorrow to know allotment details?
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January 24, 2021 8:15:38 PM
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Karvy register
So may be 27th i think .
We know the allotment
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January 24, 2021 8:26:40 PM
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Tomorrow Basis of Allotment will be declared, allotment will be done on 27th.
Now I am starting to think that irfc might perform really well, just cuz you said the same thing about gland too. JK not sure but personally, I sense a positive bias in irfc.
Mota bhai 0.80 paisa buyer he abhi. 20 rs. ? Yani 6 rs. Down ? Yani 3450 ka nuksan ? Esa hai chacha Sbi card me bhi nahi hua tha.. Jara bhang kum piya karo. Aur itni hi gand fatti hai to IPO se dur reh ke mutual fund me dalo.
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January 23, 2021 2:03:43 PM
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Your previous comment on Gland did not turn true Tell me something in real life which you have done or said turned true People have already challenged you to supply IRFC shares with specific quantity and rates Are you a genuine person? I doubt You write to shock. Please give us reasons for shock too You have not said any IPO is good till date?
how to remove my application from this IPO, AND ANY technique that my application reject or not passed for getting share its big mistake to apply in this market
IRFC is the first Public Sector IPO of the Busiest Divestment period of this FY. It''s failure will hurt government divestment tremendously.
Even if there is no listing gain or it goes down below IPO price post listing for some period , it will be difficult for government to absorb the indirect cost of failure of this IPO when tax revenues are already in doldrums.
This is IMO. Suno sabki par karo sirf apne man ki.
Agar NII ne 100 x subscribe kiya hota tab sab log bolte ki ye 32 pe list Hoga . But 3 IPO ek Sarah aane ki vajahase ye Jada subscribe nhi hua. But still a huge IPO of 4600 cr managed 3 times. As it was not much demanding. Might be HNI n QIB is of view to buy it on listing day as there will be a chance to buy the stock around IPO price. And then it will run upward. Hope for a Gland story. Kuch log Gland ko listing day par kharidana chahate the at below IPO price...hahaha
It will open at Rs 36 and will stabilize at Rs 45. One can book profit on listing, however will miss dividend which will be in the range of Rs 7 - 9 per share.
@Sanjoy Guha Atleast check the last three year dividend of IRFC before writing on this forum. It was Rs. 0.20 to 0.53. yes the highest one is 53 paise. In this price range of Rs.20-28 share, best dividend yield are of two PSU SJVN and NHPC.
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January 24, 2021 10:34:45 AM
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As per dividend policy of IRFC minimum dividend will be 30% of EPS or 5% of networth of the company (which has gone up due to fresh issue) Above is minimum as per CPSE rules but i don''t think company will be higher than that as it leverage saved money 8 to 9 times by way of giving leased assets to Indian Railways
Please look into the ones maturity before you give any Tag to anyone.
Messages of IPO Electrifying shows that he is here to spread false information.
I wonder how you assign Tags since this is not one Person but have seen many persons like him posting illogical posts
FYI I have trying since last 3 Months to help everyone but you haven''t assigned me any Tag while someone who came just 1 Month ago and say something Namkeen like Rajkot this Rajkot that you have assigned him Top Contributor Tag. This is not Ethical.
You post below 100 mag. How admin tag you under any category.. You think on it .
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January 24, 2021 10:26:13 AM
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@Owls eye why worried about tag and all, just help your self and enrich others. I remember your comments on Antony IPO, you suggested list below issue price, Yes Bank you commented lot also. I m only seeing you as Irrelatent comments passing in this Forum. Don''t come to this forum for achieving Personal gains.
Can we expect listing gain in this as the current GMP is around 1. How does GMP affects the listing day price
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January 24, 2021 10:23:01 AM
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IRFC is a good company but the timing of the issue and size matters a lot. Hope it will list discount 1RS and close tag below issue Price. History is when big size IPO will not do better on listing day. ICICI Prudential, CAMS many examples there(few exceptions also there). Suggests who are all allotted Sell with Marginal Profit and reenter in the lower level.
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January 24, 2021 8:47:40 AM
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IPO के शेयर को लिस्टिंग से पहले जिस रेट में खरीदा या बेचा जाता है उसे Grey Market Premium कहा जाता है यह सिर्फ वर्चुअल ट्रेड होता है मुँह जवानी बिना किसी लिखा पढ़ी के इस ट्रेड को कानूनी मान्यता नही है
यह अधिकतर ब्रोकर के माध्यम से, सटोरियों के माध्यम से या फिर जानकार लोगों के बीच ही होता है
My name is Dhruv jain sir i bid for irfc ipo on 18 jan 21 nd accidentally this ipo was deleted by me . But the block amount of irfc ipo was not released yet .And i don''t get amount of irfc ipo Sir i kindly requested to you . Please accept my request Nd sir guide me what to do now??