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222. VALUE INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 8:47:54 AM (900+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
http://www.livemint.com/Money/w5NYbmQwG5jHMVJSXtOE0N/ICICI-Pru-Life-IPO-a-good-bet-on-insurance.html

http://www.livemint.com/Companies/iKztPSN18O3I55nmpoxyQP/ICICI-Bank-raises-Rs1635-cr-selling-ICICI-Pru-Lifes-shares.html

ICICI Bank raises Rs1,635 cr selling ICICI Pru Life’s shares in pre-IPO allotment
The bank sold 48.96 million ICICI Prudential Life shares to institutional investors at Rs334 per share, the upper end of the Rs300-334 price band for the IPO, as per a filing.


Mumbai: Private sector lender ICICI Bank Ltd on Friday raised Rs1,635.33 crore by selling shares in its life insurance arm as part of the Rs6,056 crore initial public offering (IPO) beginning next week, the company said in a stock exchange filing.

India’s largest private sector bank sold 48.96 million ICICI Prudential Life shares to institutional investors. The sale took place at Rs334 per share, the upper end of the Rs300-334 price band for the IPO, as per the filing.

Morgan Stanley Mauritius Co. Ltd bought shares worth Rs207.45 crore, 12.68% of the total anchor book value. Sovereign Wealth Fund GIC Pvt. Ltd (formerly Government of Singapore Investment Corp.) bought shares worth Rs145.78 crore, 8.9% of the anchor book.

Other investors bidding for ICICI Prudential shares in the anchor allotment include Nomura Investment Fund Mother Fund, Nomura Singapore Ltd, Monetary Authority of Singapore, National Pension Service managed by Oaktree Capital Management LP, Goldman Sachs (Singapore) Pte, UTI Mutual Fund, various schemes under Birla Sun Life Trustee Co. Pvt. Ltd, and SBI Funds Management Pvt. Ltd.

The anchor book is the portion of the IPO that bankers allot to institutional investors on a discretionary basis. Anchor book subscription opens a day before the launch of an IPO and acts as an indicator of institutional investor interest. Investors in the anchor book have to remain locked-in for 30 days from the allotment.

The public issue will open on 19 September and close on 21 September. Based on the upper end of the IPO price, ICICI Prudential will be valued at Rs47,955 crore.

The company had filed its IPO proposal with the Securities and Exchange Board of India (Sebi) on 18 July and received the regulator’s approval on 2 September.

Parent firm ICICI Bank Ltd is looking to divest a 12.63% stake in the life insurance arm through the offer-for-sale (OFS) route. Prudential Corp. Holdings Ltd is also expected to trim its stake in insurance company by up to 5.83% after its listing as part of the revised terms of the joint venture (JV) agreement.

ICICI Bank Ltd and Prudential agreed to shed their stake in the insurer with a floor of 54% and 20% stake respectively, to make the listed entity compliant with the Sebi’s minimum public shareholding norms.

Currently, ICICI Bank holds 67.52% and Prudential 25.83% as the two promoters of India’s largest private sector life insurer.

The rest is held by others, including billionaire investor Azim Premji’s firm M/s Hasham Traders (4%) and Compassive Investment Pte. Ltd (2%), a wholly-owned unit of Temasek Holdings.

This was after ICICI Bank sold 6% stake in November 2015 which valued the insurance company at Rs32,500 crore. The total deal value stood at about Rs1,950 crore.

Following the initial share sale, ICICI Bank’s stake in the insurer will drop to 54.89%, leaving little room for ICIC Bank to shed more stake as part of the foreign investment policy in the insurance sector.

Investment banks ICICI Securities Ltd and Bank of America Merrill Lynch have been hired as the tier-I banks to manage the share sale.

Other banks hired to manage the share sale are CLSA India Pvt. Ltd, Deutsche Equities India Pvt. Ltd, Edelweiss Financial Services Ltd, HSBC Securities and Capital Markets (India) Pvt. Ltd, IIFL Holdings Ltd, JM Financial Institutional Securities Ltd, SBI Capital Markets Ltd and UBS Securities India Pvt. Ltd.

ICICI Prudential Life posted consolidated revenue of Rs8,884.37 crore for the three months to June. Its net profit stood at Rs404.9 crore for the same period, according to the information available in the red herring prospectus.

The company reported consolidated revenue of Rs20,227.94 crore for full-year fiscal 2016 compared with Rs33,955.76 crore in fiscal 2015. Its net profit for FY16 stood at Rs1,652.72 crore compared with Rs1,640.35 crore in the year prior, as per the prospectus.

As of 31 December 2015, ICICI Prudential Life had assets under management of Rs1.01 trillion.

The insurance sector has assets under management of Rs22.4 trillion, of which the share of India’s 23 private sector insurers is only Rs4.61 trillion, according to the Insurance Regulatory and Development Authority of India. The insurance industry generated Rs3.28 trillion in premiums last year, of which the private sector’s share was Rs88,433 crore.

Other insurance firms are also looking to tap the market.

In May, Business Standard reported that SBI Life Insurance, a joint venture of the State Bank of India and BNP Paribas Cardiff, is likely to sell shares to the public.

On 19 April, the board of Housing Development Finance Corp. Ltd (HDFC) approved a proposal to sell around 10% in HDFC Standard Life Insurance Co. to the public.

In June, HDFC Standard Life, Max Financial Services Ltd and its unit Max Life Insurance Co. Ltd announced merger talks that may lead to the creation of an insurance firm with Rs1.1 trillion in assets.

The merger will eventually result in the listing of HDFC Standard Life, as Max Financial Services already trades on the Indian exchanges.

The combination of the entities would become India’s largest private sector life insurer, surpassing ICICI Prudential Life Insurance. It will be second only to state-run Life Insurance Corp. of India, which has a 70% share of new business premiums in the country.
221. VALUE INVESTOR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 6:07:12 AM (900+ Posts, 600+ Likes)
Issue is overpriced and considering it is a big issue, better to wait till last day. Also it looks prudent to buy after listing as GMP of 21 Rs may vanish after issue closes.
221.1. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 6:51:35 PM
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Absolutely correct. Because of the issue size, there will be selling pressure on listing day.
220. Nish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 11:05:51 PM
Punter means
220.1. BIPEEN GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 8:11:38 AM
punter means buyer.in stock market it means one who want to do trading in forward options
219. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 10:34:50 PM
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Issue is highly over priced. Retail investors should apply at lower price band of Rs. 300. Big issue, expected huge selling pressure on listing day.
219.2. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 9:32:39 AM
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No chances of allotment if you apply at any rate below Rs. 334

The issue would be priced at Rs. 334 unless some drastic event happens before closure of the issue.

If you are really interested, apply at cut-off, otherwise you may ignore.
219.3. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 6:54:46 PM
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@Bipeen Gupta, Check and apply only on the last day. If retail quota is not fully subscribed, apply at Rs. 300, otherwise avoid. Buy on listing day, as it looks like there will be selling pressure on listing day because of the size of the issue. Also BOJ meeting is on 20th, outcome of that will affect markets on Wednesday
218. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 10:27:43 PM
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Is the GMP on the higher price band or the lower price band?
218.1. HKG |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 8:47:41 AM
GMP applicable on final Issue Price.
218.2. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 7:09:13 PM
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@HKG, but what I wanted to ask is are the grey market traders expecting a lower price band or a higher price band based on which they are giving the GMP
217. drtcdenovo |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 9:51:48 PM
hi there everyone..
I m a new member here..
please,experts sove my query...
I am a share holder of icici.
Can I have two separate applications,1 application as a share holder and 1 more application as a usual routine bidder?
if yes,then How many lots I am allowed to apply as a shareholder?
Is it advisable to apply more then 1 lot as a privileged shareholder bidder?
thank you in advance..
217.1. Ashish Khater |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 10:13:05 PM
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Apply for single lot in both categories...it will b treated as separate application....also if u wan more allotment, apply with different demat accounts of friend and family
Jai Jinendra....Jai Shree Ram
217.2. BIPEEN GUPTA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 8:15:46 AM
agreed with ashish.as you are new tread carefully in this bigger issue
216. vansh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 8:31:11 PM
I am an ICICI bank share holder. I want to apply for 6 lots.
I can put 2 applications , one as a share holder and one as normal retail investor.
Shall i put a signle application of 6 lots as a share holder or shall i put two applications 3lots as share holder and 3 lots as normal retail investor. I mean in which case we may have the maximum probability of getting more lots
216.2. Ashish Khater |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 10:14:16 PM
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Apply for 3 lots each...u will get better allotment
Jai Jinendra....Jai Shree Ram
216.3. vansh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 10:15:23 PM
Thanks vipul for your reply.

But should i go for 1 application or two applications. Which one will be more beneficial?
215. ASHISH PATEL |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 6:30:29 PM
HI FRIENDS
MONDAY MORNING BUY JBF INDUSTRIES AT 235 SL 230 TGT 245 TO 250 SOME PUNTER ENTER IN THIS STOCK FOR TARGET OF 300
215.1. Nish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 11:06:22 PM
Punter means in jbf
214. MUDIT NATANI |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 5:36:59 PM
Sunil patel pl. Inform gmp of ipl and gna ipo
214.1. Sunil Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 6:37:14 PM (400+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
IPL GMP is the same 23

Kostak 900-950
213. VIPULCHAU |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 4:58:28 PM
GMP stand at 35/-... Apply
212. Maheshchandra Nailwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 3:57:03 PM
GMP ????
211. Vajra |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 12:19:34 PM
In case retail category/shareholders category is undersubscribed, is it possible allotment at Rs 300 ?
211.1. atul |   Link |  Bookmark | September 17, 2016 8:07:06 AM (300+ Posts)
No
210. shalu |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 11:55:45 AM
gmp ?
209. Jain nitesh |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 8:43:21 AM
As a share holder you can apply in both .
This is once in a life IPO first insurance firm list directly will give you very good return in listing and after also best ipo not miss that.

209.1. VIJAY CHAWLA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 9:46:47 PM
How the share holders of the ICICI Bank can enter the public issue of ICICIPrulife
208. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 10:39:53 PM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
......HPL electric.......
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........... .... . ..2015.......2014.........2013
Revenue : 1049 cr.......1012cr......907cr
PAT........: 34.4cr........28.7cr.......31.4cr
EPS,........: 7.42.........6.20.,...........6.81
208.4. gamble |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 12:34:18 PM (1600+ Posts, 3900+ Likes)
Btw pablo ..ur LTT NII Subscription is 1x,,not 100x.
208.5. Splash |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 2:02:55 PM
Yea Gamble ji
207. Tayeervadai |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 5:55:27 PM
Do existing shareholders of ICICI Bank get automatic allotment?
At the time of application is there a way to indicate that you are existing shareholder?
Can One apply Rs 1L as new applicant & another 1 L as ICICI share holder & these will be considered separately?
207.2. Mann Ki Baat |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 9:22:23 PM
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Existing shareholders of ICICI Bank will NOT get automatic allotment

Maybe we get an option to "tick mark" to indicate that we are existing shareholder, check this on the first day of opening of the issue. If not, then apply offline, there will be separate application form available offline for existing shareholders.

One can apply upto Rs 2L as new applicant and upto Rs 2L as ICICI shareholder BOTH. But if you apply more than Rs 2L under HNI, then you cannot apply under shareholders category
207.3. IPObidder |   Link |  Bookmark | September 16, 2016 8:36:36 PM
ICICIDIRECT.COM seperate line item for shareholders to apply. Its already available on the website now. So, you will have to items, one for ICICI Shareholders and another Genreal to all.. So, you can apply seperately.
206. Dinesh Analyst |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 4:43:10 PM
HPL Electric & Power Ltd

Open Date 22-Sep-2016

Close Date 26-Sep-2016

Price Band:175 to Rs.202

Lot Size 70 Share
206.1. Priya |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 8:52:40 PM
Thanks for your information. Looks like all the boarders are busy talking about l&t. Waiting for expert views on this IPO
205. Amish |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 4:01:06 PM
Why there is no update on HPL Electric IPO which is opening on 22 sept. Can some experts guide on this IPO as well.
204. Sora |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 2:54:49 PM
Minor can eligible to apply ICICI Pru IPO ? if he has demat account ?
204.2. RAJESH SHARMA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 4:40:17 PM
Yes,definitely
204.3. nicks Jain |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 7:00:53 PM
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YES

MINOR CAN APPLY TO ANY IPO....MUST HAVE DMAT
203. KarthikS |   Link |  Bookmark | September 15, 2016 2:22:22 PM
I had withdrawn my application