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ICICI Prudential Life Insurance Company Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 6)

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1462. Prem toshniwal |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 10:06:53 PM
I have warned about the valuation of this company. Look at my earlier post

351. Prem toshniwal Sep 19, 2016 7:53:56 PM IST | I Like It. 7 | Report Abuse Reply
One should avoid the issue:
In Dec 2014 while issuing shares under Esop to employees. The company was valued Rs 38000/- . Usually, management values the company much higher while issuing shares under Esop.
In Nov 2015, ICICI Bank sold 6 per cent stake in the life insurance venture to Azim Premji and Temasek Holdings for Rs 1,950 crore valuing the company Rs 32,500 crore.

The growth has fallen over a period of time and the outlook of this industry never seems optimistic. Under present situation the valuation of the company must be some where 36000-40000 crore, while they are issuing shares valuing the company 50000/. Certainly the issue is at least 25% over priced.

Do you thing, management has left any thing for retailers? I am sure it will come in discount. Since size of issue is higher, no possibility of manipulation at the time of listing.
1461. Pks |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 9:18:18 PM
Mrs chanda kochhar shd provide FREE LIFE INSURANCE to the aggrieved share holders.
1461.1. ANIL VERMA |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 11:17:52 PM
Do u still want to b allotted shares of ICICI pru. If u like, I can sell my shares to u.
1460. Pks |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 9:16:37 PM
Sebi shd take strict action against the company whose share didnt list at the price wch they hv fixed.
1460.1. goutam |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 11:02:03 PM
Sir.... Thats why called it imagin mkt...

1459. abdixit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:56:57 PM (200+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
This is the time to learn something and keep investing. Forget loses and celebrate India''s win over terrorist state Pakistan.
1458. lakshya agg |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:28:39 PM
i think 250 will test
ipl ( indian public loot)
1457. Longtermpunter |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:12:43 PM
Don''t panic guy and specially hearing lose statements like GMP, selling etc.... we have some real nuts in this group who dont understand whats investing vs gambling. Fundamentals kuch samajta nahi.... broker ne bola becho toh bech diya

Iprulife has listed down and the military action and F&O expiry didn''t help markets... So what ? hold long term.... you will make good IRR''s and India attacking pak is good right ... shows we as a country are strong and FII''s have just this market to make money. So the jokers who said this will list down etc... be happy and celebrating yahan pe apna samay kyoun barbad kar rahe ho :)
1457.1. goutam |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:55:43 PM
Now it is clear that it was over priced ipo... B4 pok new it was 312/- and i agreed that war news drags it at 298/-... While retailer subscrived 1.2 times then it was clear this ipo not in line..hwevr my brokers sugested to sw into canbank crain..... Iam altted 168 icici pru...
1457.2. kukurks |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 9:03:42 PM
Yes you are right recall the listing days of ICICI & axis bank & hdfc bank. Those sold verses those hold.
1456. Google |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:10:07 PM
To all who are panicked. Don''t panic IPL is not junk,it has solid financial. Today all shares were down and because of that sentiment only, IPL down more then 10%. It will surely come to 310-315 in short term. I have sold it at 326 and bought again at 300 for long term now.
1456.1. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 11:32:33 PM
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It was down even when Nifty was trading solidly up.
1456.2. Atul Kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 30, 2016 3:47:43 PM
Everything boils down to valuation or issue price.U can''t compare HDFC bank or axis bank with icici prud.HDFC bank share of fv rs 10/- was issued at rs 20/-.Icici bank shares were last issued at Rs 950/- of fv rs 10/-almost 9 years back & it has hardly given any return.90% of the issuers are overpricing the issue now a days and its a fact that icici prudential was also overpriced.Keep yr ears and eyes open, study and apply only in good companies with established track records and reasonable valuation
1455. quality |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 7:37:41 PM
Aaj icici me sabne CHANDA diya...
1454. Meekesh shah |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 7:30:22 PM
Hello septaji
Where are you
Allotted 176 shares
Please guide me what to do????
1453. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 7:07:24 PM
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Never apply big IPOs look R.power, l&t info, l&t tech., ICICI
1452. Ik |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:30:51 PM
ICICI PRU & R.POWER BOTH ARE SAME. LIFE MA KABHI icici bank pa pase invest nahi karunga
1452.2. S R Makwana |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:00:44 PM
sahi kaha
1452.3. IPO IS NEGTIVE COMMITES |   Link |  Bookmark | October 1, 2016 11:13:26 AM
You Are Right My Friend Icici is Was Bad Group Is Group Was Chor Group
1451. NRI Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:23:04 PM
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No need to afraid guys..

ITS BUYING OPPORTUNISTS, Hold ur shares, and Buy more... Even today FII and DII bought huge quantity of shares (Even myself bought more shares)

DII BOUGHT 1630 Crores of equities and FII bought 3413 Crores of shares today..

So, Hang in there, and buy and hold more shares..

FII/FPI trading activity on NSE,BSE and MSEI in Capital Market Segment(In Rs. Crores)
Category      Date      Buy Value      Sell Value      Net Value

FII/FPI      29-Sep-2016      11460.35      8046.98      3413.37
DII      29-Sep-2016      5372.98      3742.1      1630.88
1450. Ritesh patidar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:18:52 PM
I loss today 2 lacs...in icici IPO ...
1450.4. WSINGH |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 8:13:30 PM
I feel switching over from ICICI Prudential to ICICI bank may make up your losses.Loss of investors in this IPO is a gain for ICICI Bank
1450.5. Shivajee |   Link |  Bookmark | September 30, 2016 3:12:58 PM (700+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
You applied under which category..?

By the way, why did you apply so much shares in a futuristic share and sell so soon?

Sorry for the loss. Have hopes. There could arise some other opportunity.
1449. Silapathar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:06:42 PM
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I had warned multiple times, but so called experts asking people to apply at cut-off. Why apply at cut-off if you know that the issue is overpriced and makes no sense at 334. I applied at 300, got nothing. Bought today at 300.

8. Silapathar Sep 22, 2016 2:42:47 PM IST

ICICI Prudential Life Insurance Company Ltd IPO
Because of false misconception that retailers should only bid at cut-off, all the retailers will suffer. This was such a huge issue that if most retailers would have bid at 300, everyone could have got 1 lot at Rs. 300. However , because of experts suggestions, everyone bid at cut off, implying that now retailers bidding at cut off will get 1 lot at Rs. 334 and those with price bids will not get anything.

My suggestion is that for high priced large issues , retailers should bid at lower price, beneficial to the entire retailer community.

4. Silapathar Sep 18, 2016 10:01:43 PM IST

ICICI Prudential Life Insurance Company Ltd IPO
Apply only at lower price band, PE multiple of 29. Highly overpriced and return on net worth decreasing every year - 37.4% in 2014 to 31.2% in 2016. EPS almost same in 2015 and 2016, no growth.


3. Silapathar Sep 16, 2016 10:34:50 PM IST

ICICI Prudential Life Insurance Company Ltd IPO
Issue is highly over priced. Retail investors should apply at lower price band of Rs. 300. Big issue, expected huge selling pressure on listing day.
1449.1. quality |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:23:57 PM
You are right.last intract with you and I say 10 to 15 rs gain but I face 12 rs loss.I sold my three applications at 322.i think today 80% retailer not sell and find at day end big loss...so sell timing is also imp...one big leasoon teach by this ipo 1.in big size ipo never apply (if all get share who can buy?)..
1449.2. Prats |   Link |  Bookmark | September 30, 2016 1:23:59 AM
Bhai, kuaen se bahar aao, duniya bahut badi aur samajhdar hai, tere ek ke yahan advice dene se log 300 pe apply nahi karenge , btw even 300 is too costly for this one, kyun paise barbad kiya, wait for some time you can easily get it for 250.
1448. abbas |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 5:51:52 PM
Hi All,

Any positive news fro IPL tomorrow.

Will it will be up or no???

Pls advice
1448.1. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:08:23 PM
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No chances of exceeding issue price in next 6 months
1448.2. SHAR KHAN |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 7:25:06 PM
we are same face as your problem so we decide hold 1week. may market up
1447. Mumbai DON |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 5:47:19 PM (200+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
ICICI Prudential being such a big issue, there is all likely hood that many investors would be getting out and exchange of hands is high , but it is still the largest private life insurance company in India with a very strong focus on Innovative products.

They were leader in ULIPs when everyone was doing ULIPs ..now they have one of the best term plans and others follow them.

The next big theme for insurance is pure term plans.

Keeping this in mind one must hold for atleast 2-3 quarters to get some gain.
1446. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 5:45:58 PM (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Total turnover nse+bse = 10,17,79,057
Delivered qty nse +bse = 4,03,83,791
Total delivery = 39.6%.
Hni+Rii+Emp, total allotted = 9,97,37,582.
This means not all retailers+Hni+Emp, have sold today. Many have held on with their allotement.
1446.1. Ipo tracker |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 6:10:18 PM (500+ Posts, 200+ Likes)
Not even 50% of H+R+E, have sold today, roughly only around 40% have sold.
1445. qcamit |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 5:42:02 PM
My request to everyone, don''t pass these type of negative comment and please suggest what will we do now for the overall share at this indo pak unstable situation?
1444. Chem cho |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 4:58:42 PM
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PL DONOT divert the attention of readers icici pru life was down at 10 am and nifty was up till 12.30 there was no war news
but at 12.30 nifty went down but before that icici pru was down to Rs 300

it went low of 295.15 and closed at 297.55

so pl accept it
whether war or now war it has gone to rs 295 levels

1444.1. AMRISHIPO |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 5:32:00 PM
YES stocks went down to 10 % after 12.30 news of war

so icici pru should have gone 10% down after 12.30 from rs 300 at 12.30 pm if it was an war effect but it remained stable to Rs 295

chem cho is correct it was stable to rs 295, it was correct target

war was between RAKESH AND BSE BROKERS
do not corelate to indo pak war
1443. pablo Escobar |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2016 4:44:14 PM
Why retailer always crying about losses??think big . Dil bada rakho.loss profit hota rahega.it''s all game.if u entered in this game u can''t take exit.you have to play it till last breath.


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