Hyundai Motor India Limited IPO Message Board (Page 17)

​@Mayursinh Vaghela Thanks for your wishes. Opportunities will keep coming. Let's make the best use of this forum and take informed decisions.

​@Mayursinh Vaghela Appreciate the sentiments 🙏🙏

​@Honey Harwani Actually those who haven't applied should not check this discussion only.

They are coming here because of FOMO.

Comparing hyundai with ola .. that's where i stopped reading 🤣

​@Honey Harwani 
Bhai IPO ki date over ho gayi. 2ndly investor will take call now on pre open and at open
I will bid at higher end so as to get quantity equal to 2 lakh or nearby similar to what i bidded at IPO
So short sellers welcome (you have full day to cover up)
There is no question of FOMO as now stock is listed and will remain listed. You can always buy it as and when you want it

Advantage of pre open is equal to cutoff price with volume (indicating a desire to own at that price)

Sour grapes

​@Honey Harwani Ola's downfall is more due to the promoter show, behaving similar to Paytm promoters when the underlying product / service is having problems and instead of fixing that they are indulged in non sensical arguments.

FOMO CREATED ALREADY. MAAL NAHI MARKET ME 101KE RATE PE SIR

​@sahab Maal nahi mil raha upper freez hai ...maal he maal hai list karo dekho kaise maal milta hai..

​@Rolta 
Sir dekhte hai hum bhi yaha hai... aap bhi... lets meet on tuesday

Don't worry brother... Listing ke baad 2200 me le lena...

​@Ipo buoy 90 pe seller hai kitna maal chahye batav ....

"Jinko bhi allotment mila hai"? Bhai, sabko hi allotment mila hai. FOMO is mainly created by people, who have not applied due to negativity surrounding this issue. It is a good stock, comparing it with PayTM, Ola, etc is useless and unnecessarily degrading your analytical skills. Agar apply hi nahi kiya hai, it is better to stay away from commenting, let people who applied and allotted take fun of discussion here irrespective of listing results.

Lagta Hai aap Shorter ho hyundai mein tabhi negative comments kr rhe ho.

Hyundai is the 2nd largest producer of PV in india.

Sabhi bade anchor investors ne paisa lgaya hai, Like HDFC, Kotak, ICICI, Citi Group, HSBC, SBI, NIPPON, Axis Aditya, Birla, Motilal Oswal

In sabke pas hmse kahi jyada Educated staff gai reserch ke liye.

on 26 PE this stock is a good opprotunity to enter.

Korea se jyada efficient Lithium Betteries koi nhi bnata. So, EV's market mein aag lga degi hyundai.

So, Dont manipulate people.

1 year target 4000+

हनी जी: "ह्यूंडई के निवेशकों, कान खोलकर सुन लो, शेयर्स बेचदो वरना कंपनी पर भयंकर किसम की मुसीबते आएँगी|

इन्वेस्टर्स: " कैसी मुसीबते आएँगी?

हनी जी: "कंपनी में हरताल होगी, फैक्ट्री में आग लग जाएगी, गाड़िया बाढ़ में बहे जाएगी, कंपनी पूरी दुनिया में बदनाम होकर बैन हो जाएगी |"

इन्वेस्टर्स: "इसका कोई इलाज बताइये सर"

हनी जी: "डिस्काउंट लिस्टिंग करा दो, लॉस में बेचो, लोअर सर्किट लगवादो, कंपनी पर ताला लगवादो"

​@Sarraf Phir joo names ap ne liye hai sbi axis hdfc sab ..inka valuations kyo down aaa gaya October me...NAV..inke pass too expert log hai...?

जिन लोगो ने अप्लाई नहीं किया, आज भी उनकी आत्मा इसी पेज पर भटक रही है | वह सारी आत्माएँ इंतज़ार कर रही है की डिस्काउंट लिस्टिंग हो और उन्हें मोक्ष की प्राप्ति हो | मगर अफ़सोस उनकी आत्मा अनंत तक यहीं भटकेगी क्यूंकि लिस्टिंग तो धमाका करेगी | 😁😀

​@Honey Harwani on lighter note aap MOMO kyu kha rhe ho..kitne time k bad IPO me allotment ki khusi he logo ko enjoy karo.. Dusro ki khusi me enjoy karoge to hi mja aaega..

​@Sarraf Ji... aapko pata nahi hoga ye bade bade mutual funds kisme paise lagana ye aise rolta ji jaise logo ko puchhne aate hai ... unke paas to kya hai sirf paisa hai... baki knowledge aur valuations to ye honey aur rolta sir jaise log hi jante hai.... Hyundai 32 global brand hai, uska ebitda best hai... creta july me best selling car by volume hai... par in sabse kya... jab rolta aur honey jaise GURU ne valuation kam jo bataya hai... koi baat nai 2 din israel aur iran k bich thodi shanti bani rahe fir ham aate hai... aur ha ham akele nahi ayenge.........

Yahi big difference h FIIs/PROs and Retailers main.
Vo sab unity se sab mil k khaate h and we retailers are just biting each other.
Itna kya roona h bhai log allotment mila nai mila. Listing +ve hogi ya -ve isse kya farq pdta.. Apne company and usk busniess par paisa lagaya hai aaj nai toh kal achaa perform karega stock.
Or nai bhi kiya toh exit hoga as simple as that.
Kya yaar itne acche forum ko kyu negativity m le jaa rahe ho..
Knowledge share karo, experiences share karo, share informations jo ham retailers ko nai pata hoti hai.. ye sab karo.. or chill raho..

Moota bhai ne namaskar....roltaji and honey ji alive rahiye ga... forum se bhag mat jana... waise bhi rolta ji k account ki umar hi 40 days hai...fir bhi yaad dila diya... tuesday tak rahiyega please .... honey ji aapko bhi ye fomo shomo ka meaning batlate hai...

​@Ipo buoy Tu ne bolde bolde tu ne boldi tere vich tera GMP bolda ..we are here dear...100 rs GMP dekh kar itna garur aa gaya mere bhai...Me too bolta hoo 300 pe list hoo lakin me too 1750 me he loonga ..nai too scorpio badiya hai..yea 7 seater Ertiga...Foomo he chal raha hai @sahab ka abhi bol rahe the modi g ayege listing pe 😂 😂 😆..

​@Ipo buoy Jab Cg group me gmp update hoona band hoo jayega to samaj leena mamla gadbad hai...But best of luck too investors i wish ke Gmp 300 touch hoo or khoob bhalo listing hoo...

​@Shahbaz Banwa 
Noobs buy in FOMO...
QIB and institutions like Mutual funds ,etc ... retailers k funds se hi pehle maal khareed rhe h.... uske baad unhi retailers ko hi FOMO ka shikaar bna kr unhe bech denge .. upper price mein....

but ek SENSIBLE INVESTOR wahi h... jo sunega sbki... or krega khudki...

​@Nothing New bro mera intention wo nhi h, jo aap samajh rhe ho.
but aapne jis tarah se funny way m present kiya h... wo mujhe acha lga...

​@Ipo buoy 
see the current quarter comparison of your 2nd largest company with its competitors....
all the figures are in no. of units sold
data compiled by me and taken from the website of FADA...
on the basis of this, i can get the clear idea ki hyundai ka july to sept 2024 ka quarterly result kya hone wala h....

​@SAKvestor 
i compared hyundai with ola... Bcoz genius log ye kehkr FOMO create krwa rhe h ki OLA listing k baad double ho gya ... to ye bhi double ho jaega...
this is the only reason that i compared it with ola...

for your kind info,
mene hyundai ka comparison uske actual peers k sath bhi kiya h... apko isi post m .. ek table mil jaega.. uska LUTF uthaiye...

Those who applied will be positive about it, those who didn't will be negative.

Also bhai there's only fomo if you let it affect you, if you trust your instinct by which you made the decision of applying or not applying, then where's the fear.

If it lists in profit, good for those who got it; and those who didn't will surely get a chance to buy if not on listing but probably very soon.

kahan gye wo log ... jo kal bade huye GMP ko dekhkr uchal rahe the.... aaj to gir rha h GMP... apna maal bechne nikle ho kya... bik nhi rha kya...

​@Ipo buoy @SAKvestor​@arunARUN @sahab @Shahbaz Banwa @Nothing New @Sarraf

​@Honey Harwani kal subah mast naha dhoke aana... aana jaroor.... GMP to tub jaiso k liye hai... kal dekho listing kya dhamakedar hoti hai...

Kya kisine socha h .. ki LIC ne anchor portion m nhi khareeda.. and QIB m apply kiya..
Reason is simple... Bcoz anchors ka lock in period hota h...
And QIB category m LIC listing day pr bechkr nikal jaaegi....

Kisi bhi reports pr believe mat krna..
Aaj k jmaane m kuch chand rupyon k badle m ye reports publish krna ... Ye ek aam baat h..
Kripya apna buy or sell ka decision in reports k influence m aakr naa le .

Well said Mam. Hyundai is listed with steep discount. Similar efforts were made during Bajaj ipo but they were all wasted.

Look at the total quantity of cancelled Buy orders...
On NSE website - Hyundai

Look at the total quantity of cancelled Buy orders...
On NSE website - Hyundai

pehle fake buy orders lgakr price bdaa do... uske baad end time (9:34) pr cancel krdo....
ese price inflate kiya jata h...
Thanks to SEBI , jiski wajah se ab operators easily manipulate nhi kr paate price ko... abhi bhi koshish puri krte h operators ... but ab logon ko pta chal jata h....

🤫😝

Excellent
Admin please track this id for few days

Dear @R K G Nobody force you to follow any recommendations.
I dont understand much about market . Still I applied because I believe on brand.

​@R K G You are free to take decision based on your risk. If you can make 5-10% in Hyundai IPO in 3 days then that can also be made in secondary market with almost same risk. Many people apply in IPO if 30%+ gain is expected. Rest nobody is expert.

​@R K G And on Thursday you were fearful as GMP was zero. Today it's 5% so you assumed that it will give positive listing. So you yourself judging based on GMP.

Dear @A.K. Goyal @Mr. Singh  Maine apply kiya or allotment bhi mila h mujhe lekin ye kai self experts naye paida ho gaye h unke bare me mera comment h .me 34 years se share market me hu, or maine mera carrier he share market me job se start kiya tha.par maine aaj tak market mein eise expert comment or boycott nahi dekha .eaisa laga ki logo ne hyundai ipo ki supari le rakhi h. Logo ke hisab se company ki brand value or business kuch nahi h. Ye paytm se iska comparison kar rahe h .paytm ka business kya h vo kya product banati heli ,uski hyundai se kya comparison h .paytm ke kya investments h kuch computers ,kuch app etc. Kya uska koi product market me million ₹ me bikta h. Khud soche log bad me comment kare.

​@R K G Congratulations for allottment. Do you think it will give 30% return? I did not apply as per my risk apetite. Many other people did not apply based on their risk apetite.

Excellent.When ever in doubt keep away. More ipo is yet to come having no doubt. We can't play with our hard earned money.

Best post came accross till now on this ipo page. 👏👏

Good decision as per your risk and it is your personal decision but I would like to contradict ur reasoning:-

(1)Very low GMP - Just subscribing based on the GMP is not good one as there are multiple instances of multibaggers being produced where IPOs were ignored by HNI and Retail like Mankind Pharma, Gland Pharma, JNK India, Firstcry, Bharti Hexacom, Zomato etc and it is easier to get allotment in these IPOs than trying on pure luck for allotment in oversubscribed IPOs.
(2)High equity IPO- Not neccesssarily correct and Hyundai is going to prove it.
(3)Relatively low QIB subscrption - Compared to the issue size, 7 times is indeed a good subscription may be some QIBs have stayed away due to geopolitical tensions.
(4)Undersubscribed HNI portion - It is same as 1st point they did not apply. But who have applied I believe they have analyzed the company in detail and applied with conviction and might be portfolio stock for most of them.
(5)Negative reviews from Experienced well wishers of forum etc arises again - Many experienced forum members have given positive reviews as well.

Even I would have liked the IPO priced 10% lower compared to 1960 but it is company and LM decision but for 10% we cannot miss a portfolio stock like Hyundai.

Suppose if it will list beyond 2100 and many people would buy even at this price for FOMO, if that is the case why many did not apply @1960 and sure shot allotment. If for some reason if it lists below IPO price also in no time it would cross IPO price.

Markets always suprises and that is the beauty of it. Risk reward is attractive at IPO price.

Even if it lists 15% more than IPO price I am not going to sell a single share of my 3 lakhs of allotment.

Finally on a lighter note, you might get many opportunities but allotment is going to be tough and has to rely on luck:)

​@Lokesh Chiru Sir,

I agree that Hyundai is GOOD company.

But for, ultra short term player like me, who subscribes IPO ONLY FOR LISTING GAINS, criterias mentioned in my earlier post are more important than fundamentals / long term / portfolio / PE / book value etc

As on today, whether in secondary market or primary market, valuations of almost every company has gone northwards proportional to unprecedented bullish movement of Sensex / Nifty post-covid without any significant corrections.

I don't intend to keep single share of this valuations, even if some random script increase multifold.

Past experiences of

(1)1987 -Nimesh shah fame bull market

(2)1992 / 1995 - Harshad Mehta

(3) 2000- Ketan Parekh/IT sector boom

(4) 2007-08- just before Lehman Brothers fiasco

gives me strong confidence not to keep any scripts for long term, purchased at relatively higher valuations & during boom period.

Mind you, all these stretched valuations are thanks to unprecedented increase in M3 (money printing + credit growth) by government policies in each & every country. Forget this. This is lengthy topic to discuss.

Don't know when this bull market will pause or reverse but surely know that this is not the ideal time to buy & keep stock for long term portfolio. (I know about predictions of Sensex going to 10 lakhs also, so will tangible assets like Gold & Silver also as long as M3 keeps expanding)

Let me know are you witnessing any of following criteria, as of now, so that one should buy stock for long term portfolio

(1) Seasoned players of equity market not participating in equity related talks / not watching business channels / trying to re-adjust in original business / job etc

(2) Broader Market having substantial correction to the tune that everyone accepts bear market reality.

(4)Volume at very low level both in cash & FNO

(5) Stock of choice available at either 200 DMA or having corrected by 38.2 % / 50% /61.8% etc

(6) Dividend yield of utility sector stocks attractive as compared to short term FD rates

(7)Brokerage house giving new bearish target on index every now & then

(8)Draught in new IPO / Rights issue

(9) Option seller's interest income reduced to just above 12 months FD interest

(10)Put/Call ratio below 0.3 to 0.5

& many more criterias, which I dont recollect, as if now...

Conclusion:

After consistent stellar performance of equity market in last 4 years & without substantial correction with level of 81,000 in sensex, no one can claim that they are investing in 'Undervalued' script. Everyone is just chasing bullish momentum at ANY HIGHER VALUATIONS & then justifying those valuations with some twisted parameters.....

​@Authentic My bigger concern is that people promptly will sell their share after listing to release their money to apply waree and danish energy ipo

​@Authentic Agree with your view on markets and that's why I am not buying too many companies from secondary market and targeting IPOs where valuations are reasonsable or high provided strong growth prospects. It is time for company specific stock selection and not sector and bottomup approach will be fruitful in this kind of market and Hyundai fits the bill.

Listing gains for Mankind Pharma (20%), Gland Pharma (20%) , Firstcry (40%), Bharti Hexacom (32%) , Zomato (52%). Especially Mankind Pharma and Gland pharma was confirmed allotment in both Retail and HNI.

During the time of IPO opening all the above companies there was negativity from experts/analysts with less GMP/discount GMP but listing surprised everyone but not me as I was convinced that the valuation/fundamentals of the companies after indepth analysis.

I have posted during IPO of Gland pharma and Mankind pharma for the benefits of the forum members.

Not all companies provide multibagger returns on listing (Bajaj Housing Finance, Premier Energies KRN Heat Exchanger in recent times) but 10/20% listing/short term gains with confirm allotment is worthy enough.

Hopefully Hyundai also will prove me right but market is king and has a way of surprising even the most experienced person and we should be humble enough to accept it and learn and move forward.

Some companies like Ola electric even though provided nil listing gains and rallied almost 90% from IPO price and almost back to IPO price due to weak fundamentals and losing market share with each passing month, lots of customer complaints and huge losses year after year. Imagine what a company like Hyundai with 6000 cr PAT and revenues of 70000 cr last FY can do.

Best of luck to all the allotees for the listing.

​@Kaulav Retail + sHNI + bHNI is about 20% of the total float, and even assuming half of them will sell on listing, its about 10% of the total float. I literally do not see any pressure due to retail selling.

Its just that markets need to be stable tomorrow & most importantly Maruti...and then Hyundai can surpise with 10% upmove as well.

I have not applied expect to test my two new demat accounts with 7 shares each.

Agree, if anyone has conviction to apply or not to apply any specific ipo, he should have ability not to consider noise in CG page.. he should go with hie/ her own conviction..

Opening and initial trade would be low premium but it would gradually increase over period of time. Certainly it would trade in future at premium to maruti (maruti Hyundai would be similar to combo of hdfc icici)

I hv applied to make it portfolio stock.

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None of these.😊

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Gray Market is not legal,
So how can gray trader's makes trust on you ?
Firstly you have to open a demate with local offline broker, only then after you can buy or sell.

Sir, i am ready to open account with them but I don't know any local broker in delhi.

If u want to sell ur shares, then

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If u want to sell ur shares, then
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​@Admin @ Chittorgarh.com Where are you
Ye @Bansal Investment To gayo.

Many potential investors hesitated to participate in the IPO due to the large number of shares available for public offering. As a result, retail and high-net-worth individual subscriptions were only around 50% (including rejections). During the pre-opening and listing day, institutional investors often snapped up the remaining shares that retail investors ( people like me happy with 20% return and sell on listing day).

Despite Hyundai's strong brand recognition in India, akin to Tata, many retail investors felt they missed out on opportunity on easy money making. This is a common sentiment among retail investors who often fear missing out on promising IPOs (Global Hospital, Mankind, RRKabel, Yes FPO (Issue Price 12 listed around 13), First Cry, manyavar, OLA list will continue forever). All the very best to brave people. Hold your shares for better returns.

Theory of Evolution. Earlier less information was available from limited sources and now lots of information from infinite sources is available. Earlier getting access somehow to limited sources was important to succeed and Now, the ability to separate relevant info from noise is needed

MC ban rha hai
Waha ek bhai kehta hai sell target 800 🎯
Aur dusra bhai kehta hai buy target 2000 🎯💯
@Maya jaal @sdz

​@Maya jaal Whom you are describing as unnecessary messages, is the maya jail of this members. This Hyundai IPO page has its 2st post on 26.09.24 at 12:27:20 PM and have about 99 pages. Are going to read all these pages to read these messages. Every post is different irrespective of the facts. GMP is changing, market sentiments are also changing and members trying to contribute something as far as possible.
As far as the repeated posts are concerned, these are about Banks, third-party, minor and so on. But still members have doubts and they feel free to ask questions and senior knowledgeable members are also replying same questions many times. Even Admin don't find any thing irrelevant and don't disable the posts.
There was a time when Eagleye was active. If you see the earlier pages of IPOs of two years back you will not so many messages in a month.
So gone are the days. Enjoy the present days.
Lot of knowledge is there in this forum. We have to take our own decision. Funds and choices are ours. At every point of time old members have become inactive and new members are active. One of the most active members now is @Chhote Lal In less than a year his number are messages are next time Eagleye. Always Ready to help.
Lastly : SHARING IS CARING.
Please take my post as positive. Your views you have right to share.

Thanks.

​@Harsh Newguru Ur MC is money control but most of guys would have under it as ......🤣🤣

​@sdz .....Yes you are right now it is matter of avoiding noises......And I am flexible enough to take my decision....I know my strength and I know my weakness......I know my risk appetite......But my post was in context of new comers who have entered market after 2020 and might be visiting this foum to understand ipo market .....Will they be able to avoid noises where company is called anti national, where auto company is compared with lic, paytm, r power etc, .....where who have not applied wants this list stock to list below issue price.....I Hope you understand what I wanted to convey......I have learnt lot from here and I respect this forum...
So I don't want this forum to loose it's charm because of misinformation

​@PKRAJ Nowadays @Chhote Lal Is less active.
Is everything fine na chhote lal missing ur replies in few minutes 😭😭😭

​@PKRAJ  My post was never against who uses this forum to clear their doubts I think it should be sole purpose of forum to help everyone....I salute to all the members who selflessly reply to queries in forum....I salute to all who share information In forum which helps us in decision making.....My only concern was for individuals who are new in primary markets and to gather information if such individuals visit this forum with so much noises will they be able to take decisions?.....I mentioned the name of eagle eye because eagle eye only provided pure information never the prediction that ipo will list in premium or in discount I think this is how it should be done......I know these unnecessary messages are Maya jaal which you me and many experienced members can take care of......But I think it won't be possible for new one's......I am enjoying my present because I have learnt lot from here in past.....And present will be past for current generation in future so I Don't want they are served with misinformation in present so that they cannot enjoy the future......Hope you understand what I wanted to convey.....Sarve Bhavnty Sukhinah.....