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76. Iranna |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 3:11:58 PM
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Market share as per DHRP filed. Souce:Zerodha

Intersting to note here is Tata Motors has grown in market share and is on par with Hyundai now.

75. Koradiya |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 11:33:12 AM
Retail 1.25
Shni 4/5 times
Bhni 2 times
Bajaj se compair na kare bajaj ka gmp 70% tha iska 20/30 % rehne ki ummeed he
Baaki expert batao apko kya lagta he

Note: 20/30% gmp wale ipo me bahot log apply nahi kerte

Agar gmp yahi rheta he to isse jyada subscription nahi aayega(application wise)
75.1. NayaknahiKhalNayakhumai |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 2:49:39 PM
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My take is they are going to keep the GMP around 50% before IPO closes. Once IPO is closed GMP will fall down to 25% and this will list around 20% premium. Let's see.
75.2. Bka |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 2:55:54 PM
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Now current GMP 470-480
74. Rolta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 1:46:51 PM
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Can this be the rate 1870 ×8 = 14960....?
74.1. NayaknahiKhalNayakhumai |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 2:45:15 PM
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1660 * 9 = 14940 😉
74.2. Rolta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 2:48:44 PM
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😂😆😂😂
73. aggarwal ipo wala |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 2:37:37 PM
Gmp अपडेट
490 sellar
72. VCVCVC |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 12:19:51 PM
When is Hyundai IPO epected?
72.1. Rolta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 12:35:34 PM
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14 to 16 expected...But yet not confirmed Price band Tentative 1768 lot size 8 shares ...
71. Binni |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 10:33:57 AM
Dear all members,

Is there any shareholder quota. I have hero moter coap share
71.1. Vimal Garodia |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 11:29:46 AM
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@Binni There might be shareholder quota in HeroFincorp and Ather Energy in the coming months..
And anyways it is a nice share to hold on to, too..
70. tycooninvestor |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 10:42:07 AM
Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful. I assume the latter statement can be opt for this IPO. Everyone are fearful about big size etc etc. I think it will not list in discount and it may atleast give 10-20% gains.
70.1. Newbieie |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 11:07:11 AM
Sir aadhe se km log hi fear me hai , aadhe log to bs naam dekh ke hi laga dete hai , ki broker app ki list me koi ipo aa gya to laga diya
69. abc xyz |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 10:41:36 AM
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शनिवार को भी खुला रहेगा शेयर बाजार, NSE पर होगा विशेष ट्रेडिंग का सेशन, जानें पूरी डिटेल
68. Esparando |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 4:03:25 PM
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IPO price could be - 1960/-

This is what I am thinking. Whether Hyundai leaves 20% on the table or 50% on the table, there will hardly be any change in the subscription level. So with that in mind, I doubt if Hyundai will leave anything beyond 20% for us.

Now on the valuations...

If they come at 18 billion valuation then Hyundai may be commanding 24 PE (FY25 earnings) & at 20 billion valuation it will be commanding 27 PE (FY25 earnings). Even if we take an avg of it, they might come with IPO at around 25 times (FY 25 earnings).

So IPO price could be 1960/- if my assumptions are correct.

Now on GMP
Nomura has put out a report that Hyundai will command a better valuation vs Maruthi (which I totally agree to) which is trading at 23 times FY25 earnings. So by better valuation I guess it would be around 28-30 times (Mahindra is trading at 28 times).

So that leaves about 15%-20% GMP.

So do not understand this 50% GMP unless people think Hyundai deserves a valuation way way better than Mahindra (forget about Maruthi). I understand Mahindra is not just car company but still.

We all will be happy if listing gains are top notch but I feel a 15-20% listing gains is the expectation we should have.

Also I have seen in these IPOs that, whenever there is no listed peer for comparison markets are rewarding the IPO on listing day crazily. But in this case there are many peer to compare with.
68.3. WorthLearning |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 4:07:40 AM
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If, Hyundai (Total shareholder 812,541,100)

and if P/E of Maruti = Hyundai

Maruti (Today 13496) then Hyundai should be 2259 (1/6th of Maruti)

10% more p/e, Hyundai 2500
10% less p/e, Rs 2000

***India is a growing economy and per capita car is very low. So there is immense opportunity. That means any price is possible.
Plus MF liquidity is high. Any listing price possible.
68.4. Esparando |   Link |  Bookmark | October 8, 2024 2:04:40 PM
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So the price seems to be 1960/- (tentative though as per spources).

While I put 1960/- about 10 days back, but with the current conditions I thought they will pull it back to 1800/- levels but seems like they will stick to 1960/- which is 5% below Maruthi's current valuations.

I mean, now all depends on the price movement of Maruthi from now till the listint day of Hyundai. If Maruthi corrects 10% from here onwards then that will make people edgy to subscribe.

Overall I feel, if market conditions do not improve over next 2 weeks or so, then Hyundai is for those who have the stomach to keep it for long term incase of discount listing.
67. Authentic |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 8:15:51 PM
Off topic message

ASK Auto OFS Retail Portion (27-09-2024)

@MuStrFc 
@Regulagedda Ambica Prasad 
@Tejas Pandya 
@abc xyz 

I feel that some big player played trick today.

What's ur opinion ?

Retails bidded ONLY for 57,000 shares against reserved 12 lacs shares, as script was purposely kept below 450 (Floor price for Retail) throughout today.

No bidder in Non-retail segment, as well for unscribed portion of Retail segment till 3:25 pm

In last 5 minutes 1 entity bidded for more than 17 lacs shares @ 461 Rs (market price was 442 Rs at that time) & entire unsubscribed
67.11. ManishAgarw |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2024 7:40:24 PM (300+ Posts)
Bought from market at 446.5
67.12. The Stock Sensei |   Link |  Bookmark | October 3, 2024 11:24:01 PM
@Iranna thank you for the suggestion, am holding Route for a few months, let's see... the thing that caught most of us was it went to 1700+ post OFS next day (which was the perfect exit opportunity) but then had a big fall from the next day.
66. RAT |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 1:39:16 AM
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Shareholder shareholder krne walon ke lea ek r aa gya.. Dr agarwal's health care ltd....
Phr se shareholder shareholder ka rona lgegaa....
65. Newbieie |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 12:39:16 AM
Hyundai wo ek maatra ipo hai jo IPO market me , competition km kara sakta hia , kyunki isme allotment ke chances almost rhenge toh agar negative me list hua toh , kuch to bhaar ho hi jaenge
64. Agrawal S |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 12:24:54 AM
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Ktna suna lg rha h yh friday night.. koi allotment nai aane wala.. no waiting 😀😀
63. gala |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 9:30:07 PM
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Pressure on GMP ... Low trades application rates and premium falling

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63.3. Owais Naik |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 12:04:11 AM
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570 now
PREMIUM
63.4. NayaknahiKhalNayakhumai |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 8:30:23 AM
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Yes, can't rely on GMP here. I would be surprised if this IPO lists above 20% premium.
62. Jay here |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 8:10:00 PM
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Excited, interested and awaiting.....

After a long time, a large and promising IPO is entering the market. Given that there haven't been many examples of such big IPOs listing successfully in the past, it's worth wondering whether this one will surprise us with an upside or follow the trend of other large IPOs by listing at issue price or just slightly above the issue price.

In my opinion, a discount listing at 9:30-9:45 am seems unlikely. A flat listing is possible, but scenarios like Paytm or LIC appear less likely, though they can’t be entirely ruled out. As the price band, QIB response, and GMP settle, this IPO will undoubtedly become more interesting to watch.

GMP often plays a crucial role. For instance, the GMP for BAJAJHFL was around 70-80% in its early stages, and even I doubted it would list with such a high premium, but it ended up performing well, listing much above expectations. Will this IPO follow a similar pattern, or will it be a trap? Only the listing day will reveal the answers!
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62.13. WorthLearning |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2024 9:56:31 AM
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@Esparando Very true for LIC & Paytm that you said. A high price IPO like Paytm, you get stuck for years for the valuations to come at par.

And if NIRMALA tai or Shahshikant Dada, want people to put some money in FDs, we may see some flat or discount listings so that mad rush cools off a bit.
62.14. Iranna |   Link |  Bookmark | September 29, 2024 3:28:21 PM
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@WorthLearning At the present rate the market is behaving our economy is lush with liquidity. Overseas FIIs are also flocking to IPOs as QIBs.

If RBI cuts rate any time soon - the rates are going to be more cheaper brining in more local money.

So these two companies coming up wont absorb significant liquidity as there is huge churn happening in Indain market presently.
61. Andrew |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 10:23:18 PM
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Dates aave atle koshtak vechine vepar kari levano. 25 Ret apps X 3000.
61.1. Ketanppatel |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 11:44:14 PM
Latest gmp 3750 retail
61.2. Ketanppatel |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 11:47:27 PM
Sorry not gmp
3750 kostak retail
60. Ketanppatel |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 11:37:31 PM
🚀 DRHP Update: Kumar Arch Tech Limited

Kumar Arch Tech Limited, a manufacturer of thermoplast products, has submitted its DRHP with SEBI for an upcoming IPO.

Key Highlights:
- Fresh Equity Issue: Equity shares worth up to ₹2,400 million at a face value of ₹2 per share.
- Offer for Sale: Equity shares worth up to ₹5,000 million with a face value of ₹2 each.

Additional Details:
- Face Value (FV): ₹2
- Retail Allocation: 35%

Financial Overview (FY24):
- Revenue: ₹4,078.77 million
- Profit After Tax (PAT): ₹1,107.99 million
59. Arihant Kothari |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 10:56:43 PM
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When is the next IPO opening ?
58. Harsh Newguru |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 10:49:24 PM
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Can anyone tell would be expected mcap?
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58.1. Harsh Newguru |   Link |  Bookmark | September 28, 2024 10:25:36 AM
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Can anyone tell???
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57. Kailash sharma |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 2:42:54 PM
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Hyundai ipo details. Ipo size 24997 crore.Retail quota 8749 cr. Lots available 6221018. SHNI 1250 cr. Lots available 59248. bHNI 1250 crore. Share price 1758. Lot size 8.
57.3. Rolta |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 3:24:36 PM
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@ harjit yes here it showing BHNI 5 % BUT it should me 10 % of total issue size... Show BHNI lots will be double of this ...
57.4. NayaknahiKhalNayakhumai |   Link |  Bookmark | September 27, 2024 9:08:31 PM
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What if share price comes at 1660. 😉