Overdub. Dekh kr har koi ne laga dala Are Bhai, Apne hi grup me xpert hai aur aap NE apni chalayi aur bhar diya..hehe.. Kahan SE nikaloge endurance ki money?
Wo dusre site pe to log lallu bane ja the hai. Still laughing on that poll icici to list 380+ LOL Hpl me bhi sare bullish the waha pr..ab endurance skip krenge but sahi me bharne jaisa hai folks ET.
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October 6, 2016 1:58:31 PM
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Frnds, it is not necessary to apply in each ipo....l&t group never give return in short term....see history l&t finance,l&t tech,l&t info.As far as icici group....they are very smart people and mind it you can''t make money with smart people....for g n a axel I.missed this ipo....and h p electric is not so unique ipo or at great price....remember opp is for short term gain only ...no matter how good the company is the only thing which matter is pricing..... At time of Reliance power....the company, the business model, the ultra mega projects, the group....all where good but the pricing for a company which is just on paper or very low revenue....fails to give any return....that was my first ipo failure....after that I lose in precision camshaft....however I go against the market and I lose....but the loss was just 20 per share....except these two I never lose money in ipo....yes in order to save myself I miss some good ones like manpasand beverages, interglobe aviation....but I don''t regret because in stock market money save is money earn....frnds my motive behind this message is that to exchange our views with each other....please share your failures and winning strategies here
Sorry dear ... was totally skipping HPL and not expecting for the forum to even apply in this IPO ..but this IPO had some last moments oversubscription.....
L&t group spoiled the party of primary market. Till L&t info ipo came this FY, all issues were reasonably priced and something was kept on the table for investors both short term as well as for long term, people made money. If no care is taken to price issue reasonanly by greedy promoters and merchant bankers(who have greater responsibility) primary market will die on its own, no matter how many ipo''s are lined up. L&t info, ltts, icici pru and now hpl proves the point. Hope pnb hsg will be priced reasonably. Had not applied for hpl.
Lead managers should be made to underwrite the listing ...If the price doesn''t move past the discovered price, lead managers should compensate the retail investors...
Don''t bother to lure retailers unless you are ready to bolster the price enough to safeguard their investments. It shouldn''t be that difficult if the issue price is fair...in my opinion.
Now that doesn''t mean Link intime is any different. These are all the alter egos of the same demonic entity that came into existence solely to perish the poor.
Well ....Karvy wouldn''t allot shares to retailers with such alacrity, Would they? .. unless they are sure that no retailer would earn a penny in the IPO. These lead managers and Karvy makes a dangerous collusion created to destroy small time investors.
I have stopped applying through HDFC Securities...It''s good for almost NOTHING ....Apply via other banks..That way you can boost your chances of getting allotment a bit.
But again we can''t forget KARVY ..That''s one culprit on a mission to send all retailers back home empty handed with their SMALL dreams shattered BIG time..
That is not necessory to apply in all IPOs. treat primary ipo as secondary share and apply only when u found " something to gain here for sure if not short then in mid term"..otherwise no gain no loss situation hi bani rahegi if u calculate over a yr all ipos.
86. gamble Sep 21, 2016 9:17:33 PM IST Reply HPL Electric & Power Ltd IPO
HPL will get oversubscribed.
Advantages:
1. largest market share in electricity ....energymeters and the fifth largest ....market share for LED lamps in India ....during FY15 2. okay fundamental 3..Better future prospective in this sector
Disadvantage:
1. Debt 2.profit margin stuck at only 3.3% 3. High PE 4. Revenue growth also low.
High risk /low(NiL) return ipo
My view:
Very much overdose by primary mrkt.easily avoidable.can consider a buy after 20%-25% correction @202(if it comes)
All those numbers don''t mean a thing...We have seen issues with most exorbitant valuations surpass all profit threshold. Take for instance Gravitas or those Beverage cos. This one too could have breached past the issue price if Karvy and the Lead manager''s sly consortium had such script written.
If any single person says in Chittorgarh that it will discount,then compulsory discount even though remaining 99% says positive opinion. But it will suly list discount. Hence all should declare positive listing . Then only there may be a chance
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October 4, 2016 10:46:14 AM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Loss per application is same as of ICICI Pru Life. i.e. around Rs. 1,000