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214. gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | July 14, 2010 9:47:20 PM
TECHNOFAB WILL TRADE AROUND 270 AND HMVL AROUND 170 ON LISTING DAY
213. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | July 14, 2010 12:59:31 PM
FIIs and the Stock Market

If you follow financial dailies, you are bound to see headlines such as “FIIs remained net buyers”. “Net buyers” implies that foreign investors poured more money into the stock market than they took out, which is generally seen as a positive development. But are we obsessed with FIIs? Do we give them more attention than they deserve?

Investors witnessed spectacular rise of the market over the past few months. Investors have observed how volatile FII flows are. It is almost impossible to predict whether FIIs will be net sellers or net buyers tomorrow! What is more important is that there is no rigid relationship between the market and FII flows.

In any kind of market, financial or real, investor sentiment and psychology play a crucial role. When the stock markets rise, they just seem to be rising (as you may have observed recently)! Experts have studied the behavior of investors, and found that frenzy and greed drive investors during a bull run, and especially when a bull run is at its full momentum, investors tend to “follow the band-wagon” and overlook economic fundamentals while investing. In fact, stock market crashes too occur in similar ways. One major investor may begin selling his stocks suddenly. Looking at him, others may panic, and they too follow suit. Such panic spreads like wild fire in the markets, and ultimately leads to a major crash. This was similar to what happened during the times of Harshad Mehta, Ketan Parikh and Ramalinga Raju.

It is because of the volatile nature of investors’ sentiments that FIIs are tracked so closely. It would not be prudent to drive away foreign investors from investing in our country. If one foreign investor has had a good experience investing in our country, it builds up our reputation in the international community, and encourages more foreign investors to invest in our economy. However, a crisis of any kind will create panic among foreign investors as well.

A major development in our country post 1991 has been liberalization of the financial sector. Developing countries like India are generally capital scarce. This is because levels of income are lower in comparison to other developed countries, which in turn means savings and investments are also lower. So how do developing nations get out of such a situation? Simple! They borrow money, like we all do when we need to buy a house or a car. Countries can thus invest this borrowed money in various social and physical infrastructure; earn a return on them which helps them pay off their debt, and simultaneously propel the country to a higher growth trajectory.

FII is used to denote an investor, who invests money in the financial markets of a country. A crisis of any kind (like credit crisis) will create panic among foreign investors as well, and regaining their trust and confidence in our economy will entail another mammoth task!
212. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | July 14, 2010 11:03:27 AM
I have seen the amazing growth of SKS Micro finance in person when it started as an NGO & lot of women folk in my village in fact now hold a stake in SKS & they are members of Self help group which was one of the initial beneficiary of micro finance.I am surprised by the price at which SKS is coming out.Raising of 1200 Cr by selling of 1.7 Cr implies a price of 700 but Catamaran was alloted at 300 as recently as March 2010 & Bajaj allianz was also alloted at 300 in Dec2009.So how come this jump from 300 to 700 in 3 months time?Its profit was 56 Cr for Half year ending Sep 2009.Assuming 120 Cr profit for March 2010 ,on a fully paid post issue outstanding shares of 7.2 Cr will work out to around 17 EPS.So Issue will be coming at a PE of more than 40.
211. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | July 14, 2010 9:31:05 AM
211 @ Mera Govt. Mahan @ RAJAAA

PODA GOYYA
210. gem ipo finder |   Link |  Bookmark | July 14, 2010 7:18:17 AM
SKS MICROFINANCE WILL OPEN 28-30 JULY, 2010.
IPO SIZE AROUND RS.1250-1350 CRORES
ITS INDIA'S LARGEST MICROFINANCE CO.
IT HAS MANY PE INVESTOR INCLUDING CATAMARAN PROMOTED BY N.R. NARAYAN MURTHY IN ITS BELT.

IT WILL NOT COME CHEAP I THINK, IT HAS NO PEERS, IT ENJOYS HIGHER MARGINS THAN BANKS
209. Anjali Karkare |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 6:45:35 PM
I think listing shoul be positive 185+
208. Ganesha Mahadik |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 6:42:36 PM
Could be list @ 170+ and high 175-177
207. abdul azeez |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 2:26:33 PM
REJOICE ALL IPO FOLLOWERS.

There will be four issues for you in the month of July

1.Midfield Industries Ltd. 45 lakh shares issue
2.Bajaj Corp Ltd. another 45 lakh share issue
3.SKS Microfinance Ltd.1.68 crore shares issue
4.Engineers India Ltd.3.37 crore issue

Please note that the figures are the number of shares to be offered in the IPO.

Pricing will be known closer to the opening date.

Keep money ready.

Apply,Get allotment and enjoy.
206. SUKH |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 2:01:19 PM
technofab allotment kab tak aayega ASBA KE THROUGH HODL LAGA HUA HAI AUR YAHA ALLOTMENT AA GAYA BATA RAHE HO. ALLOTMENT NAHI HOTA HAI TO HOLD HAT JATA HAI
205. ALI BHOY SAKAR BAZAR WALA |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 12:45:13 PM


NEW I P O

MIDFIELD INDUSTRIES LTD

Opens On : 19 July, 2010

Closes On : 21 July, 2010

Price Band Rs 126 TO 133

SIZE
4,500,000 Shares
Rs. 60 Crores

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204. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 11:25:59 AM
The Enemy Within

Buy Low and Sell High

Seems easy enough to understand and follow. Yet most of us are unable to keep this simple rule straight in our heads when it comes to the stock market.

Proof

If we see others buying stocks, then it must be a good time to buy. The same goes for when everyone else is selling.

Scarcity

We will rush in and buy stocks at Rs.100 because we are afraid that in a short time they will only be available for Rs.120, Rs.150, or much more. We must buy it now, because this price may not be available for much longer. That is why when the stock market is rising, we feel a great need to jump in and buy, buy, buy. As the market rises, stocks at lower prices become more and more scarce, which creates more buying, which makes them more scarce, and on and on it goes until the music stops.

We like making money, but we hate losing money a lot more. That is why when there is a large drop in the stock market and we have lost a lot of money, we are shy about buying more. Once we have lost, we want to hold on to what we have for fear of losing more. This makes us most likely to buy when prices are high, because we have lost nothing and have gained much (at least on paper). Similarly we are likely to sell or at the very least, not buy, when prices are low.

When prices are high, we are most compelled to buy because that is the time when there is most competition for a stock. We must get it now before someone else gets it and makes money that should be ours. When prices are low, we are compelled to sell because we do not want to lose the opportunity of getting rid of our crap to someone else.
Why do so many people lose money on the stock market?
Because the rules of 'Scarcity' and 'Proof' are steering us to buy high, and sell low. In this case, we are our own worst enemies.

Now that we understand the psychological forces arrayed against us, is it possible to counter those forces?

Stocks are not like regular items. We cannot eat stocks, or use them in any tangible way. We either buy them as a long-term investment, or hope to make some short term money through a quick trade. For short term traders, the amount of money that can be made is actually dependent on the short term demand surrounding it. This short term demand, as we have laid out, is based on 'Proof' and 'Scarcity'. In this case, we want to encourage greater 'Scarcity', 'Proof', and whatever else we can throw at it to drive prices further up, so that we can make some short term profits. There are also many so-called experts who will appear on TV, send SMS / Messenger and tout particular stocks in order to artificially inflate their values so that they themselves can make a quick sale. In this way, the more competition there is, the higher price you can sell at in the short-term, and the more money you will make. And that is why trading is very much different from investing.

When you make short-term trades, it is important to understand the psychology behind the stock market, and to use that psychology to your short-term advantage.

If you are a long-term investor, you want to be aware of these short-term tricks that people may pull on you, in order to psychologically manipulate you to buy at too high a price, or sell at too low a price.
203. Sanjeev |   Link |  Bookmark | July 13, 2010 10:59:11 AM
I had heard that from 1st July 2010 (I am not very sure about the date), all IPOs will be listed in 12 days of date of closing. Has this system come into force?? Does anybody have this idea?
202. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 8:51:57 PM
Dear Sreedhar,
I held 250 shares. In the rights issue application, there is an option for extra shares (other than the 500 shares for which I am eligible). There may be people who may not apply for the rights issue and so there may be some excess shares that could be allotted in addition to the number we are eligible. I was referring to that. Please see Ravi, Bangalore's post regarding that. My question is if our shares are in the pool account are we not eligible to apply for the extra shares? Anyhow thanks for your prompt reply.
201. ipo expert pali |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 6:22:08 PM
@181 Saharanpuri ji i fully agree with u this ipo will make fire work on listing or 1 or 2 days thereafter
200. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 4:33:09 PM
169. Mary

Its beta is < 1 i.e. it will fall less than Nifty during downtrend & rise less than Nifty during uptrend. In other words, it will outperform in down market & underperform during rising market.

Excerpts from Business Line July 11, 2010 Sunday

NTPC (Rs 198.1):In our review of this stock in August 2009, we had written that it could move in the range between Rs 180 and Rs 240 over the medium-term as it garnered strength to take on its previous high. NTPC has been confined to this range since then and the high recorded in this period was at Rs 242 in December 2009.

The long-term trend in this stock is up and we continue the view that close below Rs 150 is needed to reverse this trend. Investors with a medium-term perspective can hold the stock with stop at Rs 180. The stock can also be accumulated in declines with the same stop.

The stock will continue to face strong resistance between Rs 220 and Rs 240. Investors with lower holding power can take some money off the table in this region. If the consolidation between Rs 180 and Rs 240 continues for some more months, it will be a positive for the long-term prospects and will indicate a propensity to move above the stock's all-time high peak at Rs 291 over the long-term.
199. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 4:01:51 PM
I applied for extra 1000 shares and issued cheque for 23400, cheque is cleared, hoping for allotment of atleast 500+200 eligible.
198. sreedhar |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 4:00:23 PM
Dear Natarajan,
I think you hold 250 shares at the market close on 6th July.If so you will get 500 shares.Those who have shares at market closing on 6th(since record date is 8th) will get shares in the proportion of 2 for every 1 share held .
197. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 3:56:15 PM
197. K.K.Natarajan

You will get whatever you are eligible. In case you apply for more shares, you may get allotment of unsubscribed portion.

In IPO, if retail portion is not fully subscribed, you get full allotment. It works similar to this.
196. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 3:54:16 PM
Loss Aversion Destroys Investor

Loss aversion is one of the most common investing mistakes: investors evaluating their stock portfolio are most likely to sell stocks that have increased in value & holding-on to loosing stocks. Why? Because it hurts to take a loss. Unfortunately, this means that people end up holding on to their depreciating stocks. Over the long term, this strategy is exceedingly foolish, since it ultimately leads to a portfolio composed entirely of shares that are losing money. Because selling shares that have decreased in value makes the loss tangible - and losing sucks - we try to postpone the pain for as long as possible. The end result is more losses.

Many investment decisions attempting to avoid pain have the opposite and unintended effect of cementing losses over time.

Losing investments not only strip an investor of capital, but if you hold longer than needed, other opportunities may be missed. Therefore, it becomes imperative that an investor be willing to realize losses as soon as required so that they can move onto other opportunities. There are many reasons why losing trades are not exited and allowed to mount, but ultimately it is the responsibility of the investor to be in control of how they invest in the markets. Investors can benefit by not thinking in terms of losses or profits, but rather simply thinking in terms of "transferring" funds from one opportunity to another.
Sadly there is a lot of random stuff in the market which we can’t control. The easiest way of managing these psychological tricks is to invest in phases and for the long term.

Analysts can only tell you that you need an umbrella after it starts raining. No expert can time the market perfectly even half the time!
195. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | July 12, 2010 3:49:39 PM
Ravi, Bangalore/Sreedhar,
I have one more doubt regarding Rei Agro rights issue. (Ho! Doubts are endless! They keep coming for us guys who are not technically sound!)One guy in Karvy stockbroking says I cant apply for extra number of shares than the 500 I am entitled for, as my shares are in pool account. Bur one of my friends who is doing trading for long says I can apply as I have received an application form. Please guide.