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61. Navkant |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 5:07:45 PM (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
I''m all in with my 10 applications. May review at cut off time. My contribution to Nation building ????
61.2. Navkant |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 7:23:05 PM (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
@Anarchist , Though I''m a BJP supporter, don''t see them retaining power in 2019 and Reliance might not have favorable time.

Anyways, I''m short sighted. Will be out on listing day with hopefully 500Rs profit per application.
61.3. Anarchist |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 7:24:45 PM (500+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
@ Will be out on listing day with hopefully 500Rs profit per application.

^^^^^^ That''s the correct approach IMO....
60. kiah |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 5:20:20 PM
What any one suggest Hal apply for listing gain??????
Honestly I don''t think so it''s give listing gain
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59. HuAmdavadi |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 12:30:28 PM
LIC is a king maker, it has hugely build it''s corpus all these years, infact it has just recently started to diversifying in equity (just a tip of it''s iceberg), we can also not claim "that it is public money", we should say "that public has decided to invest in LIC service". Again comparing UTI with LIC is like comparing a peanut with an apple. Nevertheless HAL is definitely a good bet, we can treat it as distance cousin (good one) of the Mighty L&T when comes to Defence (and intern Nation Building).
58. Harshajeet Patil |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 12:42:52 AM
Hello All, For any government IPO''s wait till they are listed on NSE/BSE. No PSU companies has ever given investor their returns except few; however, they are not phenomenal. Keep your money and try for ICICI or Sandhar. Give HAL, MDNL a pass until they are listed.
57. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 17, 2018 12:22:25 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 5800+ Likes)
After 1st day not good..avoid if apply for listing gain
56. yazoo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 11:20:49 AM
Jaitley says / What PChidu had said
Jab LIC ka ho sath to fikar ki kya baat ?

Havent seen or bothered seeing any valuation figures
I wish class interest litigations should be legal in India so lic policy holders could file one against govt babus and lic babus .. sadly netas will escape !!
56.4. Mahku |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 10:42:14 PM
In 1990s UTI do the same business as now LIC doing. UTI launch a master plus scheme and burn the wealth of retail investors. Same fate LIC can give the all policy holders by subscribing high PE value govt. Companies.
56.5. Navkant |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 10:46:27 PM (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Agree @Anarchist. The purpose of disinvestment is lost if LIC. The government needs fresh money from the sale. Right now, it''s more of LIC giving them interest-free loans from public money.
55. PBIPOCompliance |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 2:37:52 PM
Must buy.. it gives good return.
55.1. Bhallal dev |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 4:14:52 PM
Must ...bye...bye
Very Good Return Gift
55.2. govind sharma |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 8:20:08 PM
but it is seems to bit costly.
and first day report is also not god.
and what about the listing gene ?

thanks in advance
54. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 3:06:56 PM
IAF has issued a press release to induct 100+ Tejas2 by 2013. I doubt on the timing of the press release.
54.4. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 5:24:50 PM
The contract for 83 Tejas Mark-1A fighters, which will cost around 50,000 crores, is in the process of being finalized now. These jets will have 43 “improvements” to improve maintainability, AESA (active electronically scanned array) radar to replace existing mechanically-steered radar, mid-air refuelling capability, long-range BVR (beyond visual range) missiles and advanced electronic warfare to jam enemy radars and missiles. The delivery of these 83 jets is slated to begin in 2023.
54.5. Navkant |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 6:46:22 PM (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Ah. That made HAL IPO a bit sweeter.
53. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 6:42:54 PM
BDL,HAL,ISRO,DRDO &MANY MORE
which co. Supply row materials
Mdnl
Complex metal used in aircraft,missiles,rockets,torpidos and spacecraft
Only company in India producers these types of metals
Some examples
Titanium
Processed aluminum
Carbon still
One more thing
Urenium
Only mdnl can hold this(imo)
52. P M |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 6:07:53 PM (1100+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Subscription Day - 1
================
Qualified Institutional Buyers (QIB) ---------- 0.43x
Non Institutional Investors (NII) --------------- 0.01x
Retail Individual Investors(RII) ---------------- 0.07x
Employee Reserved (EMP) ------------------- 0.03x
Total ----------------------------------------------- 0.24x

No.of Applications (Approx) ------------ 33067
Retail Applicationwise (Approx) --------- 0.03x
51. krishan kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 5:21:52 PM
anyone can suggest about this HAL, should apply or not?

as this Navratna company & good profit gain in 2017.
50. Solution of Queries |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 5:02:33 PM (1100+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
Till now 22% subscribed .....!!
49. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | March 15, 2018 4:26:26 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
After flop show of Bharat Dynamics IPO-
AB TERA KYA HOGA (HAL)IA.....
49.4. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 3:18:28 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1800+ Posts, 10200+ Likes)
@ Sonal,
Retail discount wale issue mai HNI v Retailer ban jate hain aur HNI kota fully subscribed v nahi ho Pata hai.
49.5. RBA |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 4:14:48 PM
Subscription figures for 3PM look very bad. Too many IPOs coming at once
48. KING VINOD |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 4:05:40 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 5400+ Likes)
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited IPO
Latest Subscription Figures as on Day 1 @ 03:00 PM
QIB (NSE+BSE) = 0.00X + 0.00X = 0.00X
HNI (NSE+BSE) = 0.00X + 0.00X = 0.00X
RII (NSE+BSE) = 0.02X + 0.04X = 0.06X
Emp (NSE+BSE) = 0.01X + 0.02X = 0.03X
Total (NSE+BSE) = 0.01X + 0.01X = 0.02X
47. KING VINOD |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 2:29:44 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (2500+ Posts, 5400+ Likes)
Hindustan Aeronautics Limited IPO
Latest Subscription Figures as on Day 1 @ 01:20 PM
QIB (NSE+BSE) = 0.00X + 0.00X = 0.00X
HNI (NSE+BSE) = 0.00X + 0.00X = 0.00X
RII (NSE+BSE) = 0.01X + 0.02X = 0.03X
Emp (NSE+BSE) = 0.00X + 0.01X = 0.01X
Total (NSE+BSE) = 0.00X + 0.01X = 0.01X
47.1. v for vendetta |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 3:02:40 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
lot of 0 are there
46. Venkatram |   Link |  Bookmark | March 15, 2018 12:02:18 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (300+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Simple Logic based on which I am applying. Recession proof industry. Default partner for all offsets, huge order book, can run for years without a new order. Made in India or No Make in India we will buy aircraft some will be manufactured here (doing it for 60 years why will it change?). Like MRF buy for minimum 3 year horizon and forget about it, any horizon that is less just skip this IPO its not for short term.
46.1. ASTROLOGER |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 3:02:39 PM
Every PSU is subsequently disinvested every year , which will bring down its price . MRF has not increased supply of shares in market and for last 4 decades , it is just Rs 4 crore .
Never invest in PSU shares because government will keep on disinvesting whenever the price rises slightly . SAIL , NTPC, Coal India and so many PSUs are examples for this .
45. NavJan |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 12:28:08 PM
From various sources(TV/forums etc.) I know that balance sheet is strong.
1) No debt.
2) Strong order book
3) Good top and bottom line numbers.

But does any have any information about the valuations? eps, p/e, p/b?
45.3. NavJan |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 1:32:05 PM
@RBA Is this EPS for FY18? It looks like a fair valuation to me. Wonder why some people so negative on this forum for this IPO?
45.4. NavJan |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 1:34:02 PM
Got my answer from comment # 2.
44. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 12:50:41 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
I think full and firm allotment to retailers and discount listing.
43. Bullish Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 12:18:18 PM
What is the conclusion from valuation perspective?
Waiting for your analysis gamble Sir....
42. Kings |   Link |  Bookmark | March 14, 2018 5:27:47 PM
can US based clients apply this IPO?
42.1. Anarchist |   Link |  Bookmark | March 14, 2018 6:17:25 PM (500+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)

I was expecting some discount for GIC, NIA, SBI Life shareholders for the sacrifices they have made out of never ending want of helping these promoters with their nation building excercises..
42.2. yazoo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 16, 2018 11:24:00 AM
Indeed a special ipo discount for previous govt ipo subscribers esp lic is needed !!