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161. v for vendetta |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 2:49:15 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
BDL gone, pata nahi iska kya HAL hoga
PS:- I have skipped all PSU IPO.
160. praveen g |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 2:33:50 PM
BDL affected due to negative market conditions. Defense sector will play an important role moving forward. Ignore the noise. Stay invested..
159. rajs.rams |   Link |  Bookmark | March 22, 2018 11:01:02 AM
What happens if LIC does a block deal on the listing day and sells off some percentage of shares?
159.5. Kishor Asher |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 8:09:36 AM
LIC has lot of cash. It will buy more.
159.6. Kishor Asher |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 8:59:12 AM
I remember when LIC bail out IOC offer for sale. They never sold till date. LIC got multiple returns from IOC because since then, IOC gave 2 bonus. So one share of IOC became 4 shares in 2 bonus issues. Same is going to happen with HAL.
158. Kishor Asher |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 8:08:13 AM
Net Profit CAGR in last 3 years is 164 %. This indicates good performance of HAL.
157. IPOANALYSIS |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 1:15:03 AM
India plans up to 74% Foreign Investment in Defence Technologies without approval. Bloomberg

GREAT NEWS FOR THIS SECTOR
156. praveen g |   Link |  Bookmark | March 22, 2018 12:00:51 PM
Buy on listing day without fail. No need to panic due to short term issues..
156.1. ???????????????? ROY ???????????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | March 23, 2018 12:42:30 AM
Is it so? I suggest you to take your children or whatever to school/hospital/etc. without fail than buying on listing day...
155. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 22, 2018 3:26:37 PM
The lover and saviour of Indian crown jewels itself in trouble.

PSU bets give LIC a Rs 20,000 crore headache as stocks slide up to 43%
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/markets/stocks/news/psu-bets-give-lic-a-rs-20000-crore-headache-as-stocks-slide-up-to-43/articleshow/63410479.cms

Other than a political party, did anyone or the PSUs themselves gained anything from these exorbitantly priced new issues................................think and act accordingly.
154. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 8:24:23 PM
LIC bails out HAL IPO; subscribes 70% of Rs 4,200 crore issue
154.1. drimran |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 10:36:12 PM
very less quantity for trading since LIC holds major portion can be positive to those who hold
153. TigerOfDalalStreet |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 5:19:55 PM
Can I withdraw my application now?
152. Bhasker |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 2:37:42 PM
Modi kabhi bi kisi ko earn karta nahi dekh sakte tabhi IPO price itna high rakha hi majal hi koi bhi govt ke IPO me 1 pesa bhi earn kar le
151. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 12:05:14 AM
I am unable to understand why everyone is cursing LIC.

IMO LIC never was and never will be the loser. LIC has very low cost capital and huge investible corpus and hence has the ability to hold stocks almost forever. There will definitely be some time in future when the stock gives some return which will definitely be more than what deposits and other financial instruments can CURRENTLY give to LIC. Also with very large stock holding in these stocks, LIC has the ability to control stock price to some extent.

Problem is not for LIC but for lesser mortals like Retail investors who have very limited liquidity and ability to hold.

Arrival of private insurers may change LIC position and advantage in the future but there is still a long time before that happens.
151.4. yazoo |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 12:24:25 PM
sorry i meant to say lic ... This is the present state of lic
151.5. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 12:48:11 PM
I understand the notion of anything unfavourable which happen before 2014 was because of the govt but anything unfavourable which happend 2014 and after is with the company but I am not going into the discussion this govt vs that govt.

Only thing which I am saying is real power of decision making in PSU doesn't rest with the company but somewhere else and you know where it is. Hence blaming LIC will not help. Blame (responsibility) should be where the power is.

Also, there is difference between UTI and LIC. UTI is mostly for investing but LIC is for service. Expectation from UTI was higher returns but with LIC is affordable insurance service.

I am not defending LIC and have no love for it but I am saying the LIC itself is not the culprit. I am closing my comments in this regard. Please feel free to add.


150. A.K. Goyal |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 1:14:03 PM
Top Contributor Top Contributor (300 Posts, 100+ Likes)
LIC offer market based policies, That money should be invested properly. i invested 60000 (20000x3 ) in market based Policy 8 yr back now that money is 73000.
Same time i invested 5000 in SBI mutual fund and that money is now 22000.
149. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 11:32:02 PM
Congratulations to promoters of HAL on successful completion of IPO.
On a lighter note......
Sarkar ne to apna kaam kar diya baki sab to moh maya hai.
149.1. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 1:47:40 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 5800+ Likes)
sorry for that. agar sarkar ne apna kaam kiya hota to ye ipo fully subcribe ho jata ...even 100 % bi nahi ho paya...
149.2. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 11:59:07 AM
Damn autocorrect again ........intended message

Sarkar ne to apna kaam kar LIYA............. baki sab to moh maya hai.

Whether we like it or not ....promoters have successfully completed the IPO and part of its divestment target. In the current world ......specially with PSUs.....promoters and investors criteria for IPO success can not be assumed to be same.
148. Anarchist |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 10:06:45 PM (500+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
This make in India might go down in the history as the most beffuddling economic myth of all time...How could you assemble 1974 model BAE trainer jets in this era and term that as chest thumping Make In India success ....

Today, one such IAF jet crashed somewhere in the state of Odisha..It''s ironic how the investors were getting onboard with applications as the pilot ejected off of (thus abandoning) the HAL jet....
148.2. Anarchist |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 1:43:35 AM (500+ Posts, 1400+ Likes)
@. ???????????????? ROY ????????????????

Yes! The assessing party must check to see whether the crash was purely accidental or some pre ipo act of sabotage by non investors...
148.3. ???????????????? ROY ???????????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 2:29:48 AM
Aircraft crash Post mortem: IPO supplied (L)eft (T)MC (C)ongress (G)asoline, so it stalled mid-air and crashed into a cowshed.

As those cows have Aadhar cards, LIC will settle Rs 1lac/cow to the owner, while GIC will cough up Rs 112cr for the crashed aircraft. IPO is being apprehended for willful fraud and case will be taken up by a fast track court.
147. ???????????????? ROY ???????????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 12:46:09 AM
BTW, didn't see AniketIAF on this IPO page... Strange!

Guess he didn't subscribe for it, even when HAL is a supplier to IAF, considering various factors...
146. Navkant |   Link |  Bookmark | March 19, 2018 5:21:29 PM (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
4200Cr seem too big. Looking at BB subscription, RII portion wont be fully subscribed even with the discount. I will cancel my applications. Sorry, Mr Jaitley.
146.2. Navkant |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 6:51:13 AM (300+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
I''m out with my 10 applications. Don''t trust this with positive listing gains now.
146.3. ???????????????? ROY ???????????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 12:32:03 AM
More Power to RII... Kudos for keeping Jet Lee unhappy...
145. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 8:43:30 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 5800+ Likes)
bura hal hoga ye pata tha.....lekin itna bura hoga ye nahi pata tha ..........modi ji ab kya karenge
145.1. ???????????????? ROY ???????????????? |   Link |  Bookmark | March 21, 2018 12:12:02 AM
Unke liye to Ramdev ka churan mangwaya gaya hai... Sab tension kata dega!
144. ipo share |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 10:08:47 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1600+ Posts, 800+ Likes)
As LIC is being used by present Government, is the main reason for pathetic condition of PSUs/ Public Sector Banks. Unwritten interference in their functioning. Then how can function effectively & efficiently?
144.1. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 10:31:11 PM
It is not present govt. LIC is milking cow for every govt. Even UPA govt was also using the LIC money for funding their ipo/fpo plans.
144.2. Cool Sunshine |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 11:25:48 PM
BJP came to power successfully by claiming UPA sold this and UPA sold that nation crown jewels at lower than market value and thus every UPA activity was corrupt. I am unable to understand why the same BJP is unable to convince the market about real value of nation ''s crown jewels when it is in power and has good majority. One clear example is Coal India whose market value and dividend payout is going only one direction .........and everyone knows what it is.
God bless nations Crown Jewels and also its investors
143. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 11:11:29 PM
Although Lic bailing out every PSU IPOs
Lic is beneficial of many stocks(co.) At a very low cost via placement
So Lic nevertheless on loosening side
142. P M |   Link |  Bookmark | March 20, 2018 11:06:53 PM (1100+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
Final Subscription
===============
Qualified Institutional Buyers (QIBs) ---------- 1.73x
Non Institutional Investors (NII) ---------------- 0.03x
Retail Individual Investors(RII) ----------------- 0.39x
Employees (EMP) -------------------------------- 0.21x
Total ------------------------------------------------- 0.99x

Total Subscription @1240 / CUT OFF ------ 0.97x

ISSUE NOT FULLY SUBSCRIBED

EVERYONE WHO APPLIED @1240 / CUTOFF WILL GET ALLOTMENT OF APPLIED LOTS