I am exploring HAL for long term investment as post listing price is lower than issue price. Seeking opinion on what should be the entry price and what should be the expected investment horizon for minimum 20% return?
I have reached you by posting in your thread, as I am exploring the possibility and value to enter this stock for long term and you are one of the person who clearly showed support for the stock for long term investing. I thought you may have some additional information which will help me in deciding at what price I should enter the stock post IPO listing. I did not apply in the stock as I did not wish to risk myself with IPO uncertainties when I am not expecting any significant listing gains.
Above has been my only intentions from bottom of my heart. If still my post in your thread has hurt you anyway, I unconditionally apologize for the same.
All brokers and fund houses are rigged to give it a thumbs up. I bet this company will be available at below 200 in long term. I cannot say whether it will give listing gains or not coz listings are normally managed. Govt is sucking public money by all means. If Nirav Modi was given a year or two, he would have launched an IPO and we would have funded PNB loss. Be careful before investing in any govt IPOs. They are just not sincere and no apathy for public money or services.
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March 15, 2018 7:11:13 PM
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There is an army of so called financial experts in Disinvestment deptt , finance ministry , banks , etc. And they can not price an IPO right. May be this is because their whole energy is spent in planning for frauds and loot the nation.
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March 14, 2018 7:47:46 PM
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March 14, 2018 7:47:07 PM
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Mishra dhatu Nigam, HAL, Bandhan and Bharat Dynamics are entering IPO market very wrong time. All may fail to list at premium since substantial money is blocked in secondary market. Unless revival in secondary market, IPO market will face the problem. DIsclaimer:- I am not applying in any IPO in view of good opportunities available in secondary market.
But Anil Ambani''s ''Reliance Defence'' is going to make Rafael Jet components in a joint venture with Dassault .....
If the deal truly materializes, the HAL promoters would clap at the sight of the jets taking off and the retail shareholders would be seen cheerleading the event to say the least...
I do accept you comment, and Reliance Defence has industrial licences for the full spectrum of military platforms and is the fastest emerging private sector enterprise in the development, manufacture and supply of defence aerospace, land and naval platforms and equipment... But its lacking in two major fields. 1. Experiance, 2.customers
Exactly! Inexperienced Reliance Defence has been chosen over HAL, the illustrious entity signifying the national pride...Strange!..Very strange!.. isn''t it?
@ anarchist, bro there is a lot of difference between procurement by transfer of technology nd procurement in flyaway condition. Here rel defence role is just like swiggy. Your statement comes true when r defence can get a initial operational clearance (least case) for an aircraft indigenously developed them.
So basically ADA''s Rel Def is only milking the defense cow? They don''t know sh*t about the defense technology etc. How the hell these chaps got the contract so big and that too involving national security. Wait till Lil Ambani driving the debt to higher levels and big Ambani buying "Defense" from him. LOL.
It''s not like that ....Here in this Hindustan IPO, they have actually given a discount of 250 Rs / Share ...But as the bumper profits due to extremely attractive valuations is certain, they have simply deducted the Capital Gains Tax of 225 Rs. / Share in advance...:D
@ Anarchist Haha...This is something like RECIPROCAL Tax example practiced since long time in hindustan.
Let the nation left behind day by day but we will never step backward when there is a question of tax whether it is GST , LTCG or any other.
GENTLE-MAN''s game and TAXation system are what we have learned from a variety of ENGLISH MAN and now we are the MASTER in it and teaching them in fact as if it is our heritage and privilege...
I think very soon the policymakers will implement this reciprocal tax system.Whatever you earn will be the tax slab bracket and we have to invent some new kind of TIT FOR TAT strategy
Absolutely ! But I guess we should now stop calling ''Tax'' as ''Tax'' ..Look, the rhetoric has come a long way from ''India'' (shining) to ''Bharat'' ...So we too should call the tax by a different name ....''Lagan'' ? . '' Nivesh Vriddhhi Lagan'' ...Haha yes !!
Also the valuations of these Bharat / Hindustan IPOs are so low and the (retail) demand so high that I fear the prices of these scrips might double before listing ...
Present Government is preferring private players over Govt PSUs whether it is mining, oil, defence or any other field. Hence, private COs are likely to perform better.