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515. SHARMARAJU |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 11:52:42 AM
भाई लोग
एक तो हमारी अंग्रेजी कमजोर है
ऊपर से रूपए भी कम है
जरा सा समझा दो क्या में मेरे जैसे भी लगा सकते है इसमें पैसे ?
कम से कम कितने का lot का है और कितने समय के लिए investment करना है

514. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 11:45:03 AM
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Last 4,5 ipo jiskoy allotment nahi hua uski lottery laggai
Jisko allot ho gaya wo ro raha hi
513. Pokemongo |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 11:03:35 AM
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is there a page for Bharat 22? What is NAV for retail? Should we subscribe?
513.1. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 11:10:35 AM
NAV will be decided by weighted average closing price of underlying stocks of 15th, 16th, 17th Nov.
513.2. SABBY |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 11:13:41 AM
small profit and small loss offer
512. AARUSH MONDAL |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 10:15:25 AM
don''t worry hdfc will list proftt
511. ROHAN NAMDEO AHER |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 10:09:54 AM
Please confirm link to check allotments.Hope ye muje nahi lage ipo.....hahahah
Last Two ipo main loss bear kar raha hu.
510. Saim |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 9:53:19 PM
Is there any Chances of allotment at lower price band 275 in retail category ?
510.1. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 3:55:36 AM
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No
510.2. PavanM |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 9:16:12 AM
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Dont worry for allotment Saim, you will get HDFC life below issue price very soon being over valued and 8695 Crore size.
509. Mill Tech |   Link |  Bookmark | November 12, 2017 1:37:23 PM
How to apply in BHARAT 22 ETF ???????
509.5. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 8:11:09 AM
@SinglaIpo, did you go through the prospectus or application. If you read it then you never posted.
509.6. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 8:13:03 AM
excerpt from Bharat22 ETF application form:

In case the subscription (lumpsum) amount Rs 10,000/- or more and your Distributor has opted to receive transactions for investor
other than first time mutual fund investor) will be deducted from the subscription amount and paid to the distributor. Units will be issued against the balance amount invested.
Upfront commission shall be paid directly by the investor to the AMFI registered Distributors based on the investors’ assessment of various factors including the service rendered by the distributor.
508. Carn Mohan |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 12:25:38 AM
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Listing should be near Rs 250
508.1. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | November 14, 2017 3:51:45 AM
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My not be.

In my view, the chances of listing are as under:

Above Rs 300 ------------- 2%
Rs. 290 to 300 ------------- 80%
Rs 280 to 290 ------------- 15%
Rs 275 to 280 ------------- 2%
Below Rs 275 ------------- 1%
507. NRI Investor |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 10:35:43 PM
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In 2015, CPSE ETF delivered a negative return of 14 per cent while Sensex, was down only five per cent. In 2016, CPSE delivered 18 per cent while S&P Sensex delivered two per cent. This year so far CPSE ETF has delivered a return of five per cent while Sensex is up 17 per cent.

Bharat 22 is more diversified
Bharat 22 is more diversified with 22 stocks as suggested in the name. Bharat 22 is much more broad based with 6 sectors (Basic Materials, Energy, Finance, FMCG, Industrials & Utilities). The maximum allocation to a single sector that is finance is at 20 per cent. It also has private sector companies -- Axis Bank, L&T, ITC which the government is holding under the Specified Undertaking of Unit Trust of India (SUUTI).
Among stocks L&T and ITC have the highest allocation of 17.1 per cent and 15.2 per cent respectively.
Should you invest?
The government gave a five per cent discount at the launch of CPSE ETF to retail investors and again those who held the ETF for at least a year got one fifth loyalty bonus.
No such discounts has been announced on Bharat 22 yet, which could have been an attraction for some investors.
However, experts believe that this fund is not for the common investors.
"Ideally, such funds are for more evolved investors. For a common investors it is better to stick to diversified funds. While Bharat 22 is more diversified as compared to CPSE ETF but it is still a thematic fund with PSU focus. And in time like these when markets have run up quite a bit, it would be prudent for investors to stick to diversified funds and invest systematically," says Anil Rego, CEO & Founder, Right Horizons.
Thematic funds performance can be erratic as they will do well over certain periods and a common investor may not be able to stomach the risk.
"Not more than 10 per cent of your total financial portfolio in one ETF scheme," says Anil Chopra, Group Director, Bajaj Capital.
"All in all Bharat 22 is not a very great fund to be excited about and only evolved investors with a long-term exposure can put some partial money in this fund," added Rego.

http://www.businesstoday.in/money/investment/bharat-22-etf-is-more-diversified-exchange-traded-fund/story/258854.html
506. Prashant Pednekar |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 9:57:37 PM
After a long time seeing employee allocation more than full and retail allocation empty. Let''s see who wins on listing.
505. Anthony |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 10:00:22 AM
Hi Since i was applying for the first time in IPO through asba i mistakenly applied under the option of share holder later i realized I should have done under RII. Can anybody let me know what will happen now. Will i get the shares if alloted or ?
505.2. v for vendetta |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 5:41:39 PM
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Dont worry, they are looking for anyone remotely possible to allot their shares.
you will defntly get.
505.3. MDK |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 9:37:25 PM
you will not receive any allotment. registrar will match details of applicant under shareholder category with list of individuals who own hdfc as on 18/8/2017 , record date to avail benefit.
504. MDK |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 9:27:43 PM
hdfc standard life is fairly priced. it will list around 300-310, as everyone is aware regarding success story of hdfc group. hdfc is the best group in financial sector. 5 year target of hdfc life is 800. it will definitely deliver better returns on listing than sbi life and icici pru
503. Akshay Kumar |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 9:43:00 AM
@septa sir: What is your view on Fortis limited?
503.1. Aniketiaf |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 7:47:29 PM
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Akshay Bhai,
Leave FORTIS, just tell the release date of HOUSEFULL 4 & ROBOT 2.0
502. k paapaarao |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 7:19:12 PM
to day my amount deducted from icici for 3 lots which i applied. i dont know howmany i will be alloted.
501. Lionkingnmr |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 3:50:23 PM
Guys, Can anyone tell me what is the benefit for HDFC shareholders by listing HDFC LIFE please?
501.2. Lionkingnmr |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 6:21:35 PM
Thanks PSR. I''m sorry have one more doubt, How different it is from demerger? I''m thinking which is more beneficial.

For example, Reliance capital demerged it''s Reliance Home business and listed RHFL seperately. Thereafter, Relcap was adjusted minus RHFL business. However, Every Reliance capital shareholder got RHFL shares.

However, HDFC is listing HDFC Life as separate entity. As you said the proceeds from this IPO will boost HDFC books.

So thinking which scenario is good for existing share holders ?
501.3. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 6:56:05 PM
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When it is coming RHFL, a part of business (Home Finance business) which was part and parcel of Reliance Capital was formed as a sepearate entity. Before demerger Housing Finance was one of the activity/division of Reliance Capital. The reasons for such seperation could be various fctors, such as for better valuations, for independent decisions by the persons looking after the business affairs of Housing Finance with refering to the management of Reliance Capital, attracting funds at lower rate of interest as providing loans to Housing sector is considered to be safe with out NPAs etc.

When it is coming to the Life Insurance business was never a part of the business of HDFC. Since, inception, a sperate company by name and style HDFC Standard Life was formed in a joint venture, and this company carried out the Life Insurance business on its own, of course with the support of the HDFC & Standard Life.

Hence, facts relating to HDFC Standard Life is different from that of RHFL.

It is very difficult to say which scenariod is good for shareholers, but one thing is clear that there must seperate entities for each type of business when business grows.

It also also to be noted that conducting business as division of bigger company and as a seperate company have got its own advantages as well as disadvantages,which are numerous.
500. B SURYA PRAKASA RAO |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 6:38:33 PM
Only share holders of HDFC LTD (not those of HDFC BANK) were eligible to apply under the Shareholders quota. Of course, it’s a different matter that the Shareholders quota is woefully under subscribed.
499. B SURYA PRAKASA RAO |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 6:28:16 PM
Considering the pedigree and the reputation & share prices of the other Group Companies, HDFC LTD,HDFC BANK & GRUH FINANCE, I expect HDFC LUFE to list at not less than RS.310. Of course, the true beneficiaries will be those who hold it for long term.
498. AnkurGoel |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 4:32:51 PM
Seven Islands Shipping Ltd is approved by SEBI.
497. Aditya Arora |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 3:14:41 PM
I have apple for 1 Lot @ 275. As retail Investor may i get allotment or not.
497.1. PSR |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 4:07:14 PM
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No
496. lokes |   Link |  Bookmark | November 13, 2017 3:07:55 PM
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hopefully it will list in between 290 to 300.....it will be a surprise if lists outside this range....