Higher subscription in any IPO gives a comfort feel during IPO that ''''All is well'''' with our new investment but heavy subscription doesn''t mean guaranteed high listing/quick gains. In reality, a decent subscription multiple is better for retailer investors than very high subscription multiple, most important is future potential of the stock and current valuations.
In last one year there has been almost 70-80% growth in no of demat ac in the country and retail investors almost doubled . This is only because of ever growing expectations of listing gains from IPOs. Very soon at last 40-50% of these demat ac will become defunct/inactive after new (very small) investors lose significant money in IPOs as companies continue to squeeze listing gains with increasingly higher ''''Initial'''' valuations sought.
It is time to go "long time only" even in primary market or to stay away.
Today Reliance Nippon also got hammered down below issue price. That will pave for a below par listing of HDFC Life too. How does Mr Deepak Pareek face CNBC tomorrow after the opening bell. Eager to listen to his optimism....
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November 15, 2017 6:40:13 PM
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Today itself, Rakeh Jhunjhunwala has advised to stay away from primary market due to skyrocket valuations of recent IPOs especially insurance company IPOs.
Hopefully HDFC Life list marginally higher. But surely this is a Long Term Portfolio Stock. Can be slowly accumulated over a period of time preferably by SIP for decent returns.
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November 15, 2017 6:32:52 PM
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Retailers here I think moved smart by not subscribing in full force. If prudential came with 29 PE, why HDFC came with 65 PE in the market. They think people are fool? If person go to take policy, are they taking by thinking who is the management of insurance company? Customer even dont know the name of development officer. He is only knowing the person who sold the policy. Than why we need to give extra 36 PE valuation to this company by just thinking Management is good so higher PE for company.
The subscription under retail category was less than one time and hence anyone who applied for less than 2 lacks at cutoff or upper band (290) should have got shares allotted. If despite this you have not been allotted any shares, there may be some technical issues with your application. Instead of writing here, you should contact your brokerage house and understand what was the problem. This will help u in future applications.
Please do not crib in this forum as it will not help u anyway but forum pages will keep filling un-necessarily.
Applied for 5 lots at full-price, and got ZERO. Not sure how does their calculation works. Same had happened for Reliance Nippon as well.. Is there anything wrong with my account?
is that is possible i have 5 family member i have applied each lot in every account but amount deduct for only one lot but in allotment status showing aal family member got allotment how it is possible
Then it is good news for you. You got 5 lots on the price of 1 lot. There may be a technical glitch at karvy side. It asked bank to release the fund. Either Karvy will not credit the share in your accounts or if credited then it is win win situation for you.
Do one thing, do not leave any balance in your account from where you applied. Karvy cannot deduct the amount in future also if it is done by technical glitch.
It happens with me in case of IDFC Infra Bond. By mistake Karvy credited the maturity amount 4 times instead of single payment. I closed that saving account where amount credited & demat account from where I applied for Bond.
Karvy is calling me since January to refund the excess amount.
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November 15, 2017 5:44:36 PM
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atleast you got something from Karvy.. good work!!