HDFC Standard Life Insurance Company Ltd IPO Message Board (Page 13)

no use ETF 3rd class offer

@thelearner , in reliance nippon ipo bidding more thn 1 lakh crore......bt where it is now .....??

242 daily going down 4-5% so dont be soo optimistic bcz of only one bid......
this view only for short term like listing gain booking

( however HDFC life good for long term & reliance nippon also will give decent recent in long term sub. to condition Anil bhai ha ha...)

no comparison possible haha..........HDFC group soo good best group...

just telling...bidding of one person can''t effect so much

everyone know hdfc life will run..& it will be..but short term it will also range bound at issue price around....!!

Come what may....Ani Lambani will not be able to repay the debt. He might resort to pledging selling his holding in other companies to buy some time and pretend to stay afloat. It''s a game over for ADAG
But does that mean the dark midget would take advantage of the situation and promise the investors a mountain of things?...If countries like Greece, Argentina, Ireland can go bankrupt, why can''t a company called HDFC land in trouble at no time?..

selling pressure comes from retail and hni and they just calculate interest per share and that comes to rs. 1 only per share so no one to wait and look at RNAM also

Different dates about Listing

Red Herring Prospectus ------------ Commencement of trading on the Stock Exchanges On or about November 17, 2017

Mail from about Allotment cum Refund Status shows -------- Expected Date of Listing -------- 20/11/2017


Listing should be on November 17, 2017 as restriction of T+6 days.

Mail from Karvycs@karvy.com

Karvy always feel like they are the SEBI .WTF if its already announced how they decided to move on 20th????

50%chance of negative listing
25% chance of atpar listing
25% chance of 5,10 Rs plus listing
Chance of loss is very limited
So be happy.

Check application number 90153486 of RAKESH JHUNJHUNWALA

For BHARAT ETF 22 , The reserve quota is same for QIB & NII ??

For better allotment which is advisable Retail Category or NII ?

Can be seen the subscription data ?
pls reply

ET report : Management super confident !!

Talking to ET Now, Bharat 22 ETF Launch - Nimesh Shah , MD & CEO, ICICI Prudential AMC , says the way they have selected you can say this is a very good value index also.

Edited excerpts :

Markets are up and you have been hiding, it should be the other way round?

We have not been hiding, we have been talking to the customers, we have been talking to the distributors. The business is growing very fast. We believe that the retail investors should be properly informed what they are getting into. A lot of money is coming in and we need to be very careful and as the markets go up, we need to explain big time to the retail investors that as the market goes up the risk also goes up. The risk return trade-off has to be understood by the retail investors well. A lot of travelling is happening across India and it is great to be in touch with the real India on a continuous basis.
But Bharat 22 ETF could be that one-stop destination where you can really bet on this ETF or buy the NFO and participate in the India growth story. Let me start with a very simple question;
what is Bharat 22 ETF all about?
The government has decided to divest their holdings in a unique way instead of simply getting the institutional investors in. The government’s idea was that why do not we get the common man into this, to share the India growth story with the common man.

After we got the mandate there was so much to and fro with the government in terms of which we have selected the stocks.
The representation is by design, it is not by default. The government had large ownership on L&T or Axis Bank. That is why Axis Bank weightage is high. This is something which you have pitched, your AMC has designed, it is not by default?
We and the government both felt that we could have 40%. We wanted a diversification not only amongst the private sector companies but also the government companies. Holdings around 40% would be private sector companies and around 60% is government holding. It was designed that way.
In India, the ETF route is not very popular and an NFO of an ETF may sound easy but would an ordinary investor say it is too complicated?
The only requirement is anybody who owns stocks will have a demat account. ETF is the right route in this particular case because it is not only a passive investment, I will explain why. Though it is a ETF, it is going to be rebalanced every year. Also, there are stock limits and there are sector limits also. Suppose those limits are hit, suppose a particular set of stocks do well and just to give an example, a particular stock, say ITC is at 15% over here and suppose that goes up in value to 18 or 19% of the portfolio, then by the year end I have to cut that position and bring it back to 15%.
So though it is passive investment, there is automatic profit booking. This is one of the smart beta factors that we have brought into this fund that we will rebalance it every year so profits will be booked and you get the index back every March.
At a very low entry load, one is getting an option to indirectly participate in ETF where there is going to be a dynamic churn every year depending on the market conditions?
In fact, there is a positive entry load. There is a 3% discount that the government has given on shares so there is no entry load. If you give me Rs 100 you get Rs 100 but you get that stock at 3% discount. So in effect, the entry load is at minus 3%. That is a positive thing for the investor.

3% Discount.. No use...ICICI direct will recover this amount in the name of charges.

Gamble ji any 3-4 stocks for a period of 1 year

Hdfc gmp -2 buyer 0 seller ( lots of seller little buyer)

Dear all,
Irrespective of how loud we shout in this forum, the listing price of HDFC standard will be determined by the supply and demand on the day of listing. Since most of investors in this stock knew that there will not be much listing gains, there will not be much selling happening hencr downside is limited. Upside will depend on new demand which is possible mostly from QIBs/NII and new demand may not come immediately hence there may not be much upward pull. So keep calm if u have already invested since yeh share kahi nahi jaa raha....na upar na neeche.

Mr. Patterns, how Mr. Deepak Pareekh save his face on the listing day???

what I knew small investor never sells at loss and is the biggest looser... He keeps it till end and that is the biggest mistake... say Reliance Power... DLF... and all big IPOs came just below the BIG Fall as they dried the liquidity of market....

Indiam Market will never be US Market if it goes this way... as whenever small investor tries to enter these big mafias rob him...and then again they remains and plays well.. the cycle keep on repeating... and small investor put away from market investing in Banks and Gold..useless Mutual Fund schemes. with least return...

@pattern

Bruh kya laga rakha hai small retail, small retailers, small investors ..no one is small, every body perfectly knows what they doing, seems like you never got any return from market and put out your frustration here.


Just buy reliance home @63-50 range and hold 1 year, 50% toh milega hi.

Agree mutual funds, gold, banks can''t beat inflation rate and continue to loot people but smart choice of equity can.

And share market never sinks, only correction happens, you just have to use that wisely.

Dear All Members...
Their is one very interesting story with share market... here looser never accept that he committed wrong decision..He always thinks he is right and his investment decision is right ...say for an example many among us are having Insurance allotments and might be loosing some money but we are bullish with HDFC...why??? I don''t know... Its like I burnt my figures and saying this new fire will not burn me....Plz sell your equities remember it is 8000+ Cr allotment... and if sentiments goes wrong it will reach 150/- in one go....Remember Reliance Power, that was only 2000 Cr issue and every one was saying same words...but It crashed and market too crashed... infact Market was build to encash Reliance Power.....

OK Let me give you one more idea... Say IPO list at 300 (and it will, as promoter don''t wants to list it down to save their image).. so what are u expecting all long term well wishers, who claims that it will be 2000/- in 10 years...will it go 400/- by March end??? or 250 /- If answer comes 250/- then for what you are waiting for.... Remember to take 300 to 400 it requires additional 2000 Cr more in system for this single issue at premium of some 80+ PE... who will invest that???

I will shortly write that why Issues from past few years are overpriced ... if you need me to write... and HDFC Life can never be HDFC Bank or HDFC main...

Applied 52 lots......

KISME?
KAB?

Hava mea

Stay away from AA stock better as 45000 crore debt of bankrupt rcom of psu banks to be realised from group companies since r capital is guaranter

RInfra is good? with all govt push and stuff? Or are they also guarantors to Rcomm?

Rinfra no obligation to rcom but aa manipulating his group and selling assets like bses power to adani power for 13000 crore so to reduce 29000 crores debt of rinfra .

Allotment aa gye kya ....?
Tell me now ....

Nahi.
Avi raste mai hai.
Kal dopahar tak pahuchega.

Sonu bhai !
allotment aap k paas pahucha ya nahi ?

Listing is on 20/11/2017

Hdfc listing should be on 17 Nov 17.

Shares credited to Demat A/c
ISIN - INE795G01014

Applied 6 lots and got 6 lots. sure won''t list at Premium. don''t mind holding for 2-3 quarters and can see an uptick.

65 PE is very high fair PE should be 15

Bacha le re baba....
Got 2 lots :(