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277. Alwar |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 10:36:52 PM
Don't sell application in grey market.
.60-70 % retail investors are sold application in grey market....
The reason of high GMP people ' HNI and punter sold shares from 120 to 330...Now it's over sold ......
Now grey market people are ready to make money from those people who short the shares now they will be force to cover the shares at the price between 450 to 600....
So pls don't sell your application or share in grey market.....
I think retail investors have a great opportunity on the listing day.....
276. Siddharth bavishi |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 10:10:53 PM
Premium and application rate ?
275. Abhishek Shahi |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 9:18:05 PM
what to do??
274. Viram |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 5:45:18 PM
I sell another 2000 at 410 GMP total 332 averages of 8000 shares any quarry for suggestions. ? Ye ipo niche kyo nahi jaa Raha?
274.5. RAJESH SHARMA |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 7:31:10 PM
simple thing 15 days ago it's ipo price was 1350-1365 where share was 11, now sebi take action and give order to cancel bid Rs 1050 to issue lead managers and return money with 12% interest p.a , so hdfc reduce its ipo price and set Rate @ 1100
274.6. Jaymin bhatt |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 8:22:45 PM (200+ Posts, 100+ Likes)
Heavy short from HNI'S in 75 to 125 range
273. Dhan Ki Baat |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 6:29:59 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
To get confirm 13 shares, what shall be the application amount in NII? Any Estimates?
273.1. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 6:52:43 PM
Very hard to calculate
May be 30L I guess?
272. R R Patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 6:50:01 PM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
Highest applications received in retail category, since January 2016:

Cochin Shipyards Ltd. - 20,74,982 applications (August 2017)

HUDCO Ltd. - 20,13,643 applications (May 2017)

Avenue Supermarkets Ltd. - 18,65,900 applications (March 2017)

CDSL - 18,54,513 applications (June 2017)

Reliance Nippon Life AMC Ltd. - 16,37,276 applications (October 2017)

So by seeing too much craze and excitement of investors for HDFC AMC 18 lakh +++ applications expected so allotment ratio will be
1:3 or more expected in retail category. So apply only single lot per application in retail category and HDFC shareholders may apply additional 12 lots in HDFC shareholders quota.
271. dipandesai |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 6:49:38 PM
PRIMIUM NICHE AAYEGA.
ABHI LISTING 10 TRADING SESSION KE BAD HONE VALA HE.
270. Shah bhupesh chunilal |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 5:03:41 PM (200+ Posts)
4 times
269. Sbr |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 4:30:43 PM (200+ Posts)
415-420
268. Viram |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 4:06:47 PM
GMP any idea sir ?
267. Ritesh Parekh |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 2:09:13 PM
Could someone clarify that shareholder quota means HDFC Bank Ltd Shareholder or HDFC Share Holder as I have HDFC Bank Ltd shares. Please help
267.2. Devendrablt |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 2:26:06 PM
Dear
Only HDFC shareholder r eligible .
267.3. Ritesh Parekh |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 2:32:36 PM
Thanks Devendraji
266. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:00:31 PM
Mr.shah
GMP,kostak,subject2
Are like umbrella
When Ever you are not sure of some IPOs? u should use it as safety
But here! Money is raining
It's Not wise to use it
266.1. Share Shah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:51:00 PM
Thank you sir.
266.2. Ritesh Parekh |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 2:18:06 PM
So it is clear that I can apply as shareholder quota as well as in Retail quota
265. BK PITALIYA |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:26:33 PM
It appears that the ISSUE PRICE is reasonable.
So am going to apply.
265.1. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:42:31 PM
Reasonable?
It's called attractive
In mid may people were saying price around 1500
Than in June people were ready for 1360 with 200 GMP
Now 1100 it's quite attractive and lucrative
264. Shriniwas |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:14:24 PM
Strategy to reduce funding cost if applicant wants allotment of only one lot in NII category:
Estimate the total oversubscription expected in NII category - Example 200 times.
Divide by 2 - Answer is 101 times.
Select the next prime number - 101 or 103 or 107 or X which is any other random number of your choice below 200.
If you want allotment of only one lot, apply for 101 lots or 103 lots or 107 lots or any other X number of lots - If you are the only applicant to have applied for X number of lots, you will get allotment if your oversubscription forecast is accurate.
Some companies may give you the minimum of one lot or an extra lot even if you have applied for lesser number of lots than what I have illustrated above.
The cost of funding if you follow such strategy will be lesser than that for other NIIs.
For example - If you have applied for 101 lots in HDFC AMC, and you are the only applicant to have applied for 101 lots, and your over subscription figure of 200 times is accurate, you will get allotment of 15 shares and your cost of funding would be Rs 176 per share as compared to Rs 348 per share for others.

264.1. Shriniwas |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:14:55 PM
Please check Reg 50 of SEBI (ICDR) Regulations, 2009 and the basis of allotment for any IPO in the recent past.
263. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:08:02 AM
Bookie's punters every one including hnis are buying application on kostak around 1300-1450
Mostly from Ahmedabad,jaipur,indore lines
So
On listing day very few will have stock to sell
Like bandhan bank
70-75℅ investors sold their application on kostak/subject
Big fish will manipulate at the day of listing
Keep an eye on it
263.2. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:32:23 AM
I think calculation of shrinivas is justified by current GMP bcos hni/nii costing more relevant
263.3. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 12:10:04 PM
As I heard rumors that if someone commented for 5000 or more application as kostak they will pay him 1450-1500
262. Share Shah |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:55:44 AM
What is better ?
to sale 7 form in grey market @ Rs. 1200 or whatever ? OR
Apply 7 form & wait for allotment, if allotment chances are good.
Please guide & also tell approx chances of allotment ?
Thanks in advance.
262.1. DEV IPO |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:58:04 AM
Don't sell your any application... Try your luck...
I will do same...
261. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 20, 2018 12:01:33 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 5700+ Likes)
Gmp of hdfc - 330- 340
application rate - 1000
subject 2 - 2300 - 2400
apply for listing gain and also long term view........
hdfc is not just a bank....its brand name....
261.4. sonal patel |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 9:01:10 AM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1500+ Posts, 5700+ Likes)
market expectation around 170 to 180 time in HNI/NII category........if condition favourable subscription is high......
261.5. techuser |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:46:14 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (500+ Posts, 300+ Likes)
Thank you mam, then there's no meaning to apply in HNI category with (4-5 lacs) investment. It's better to apply retail then.
260. ravi king maker |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:36:02 AM
HDFC Ka Naam hi kafi he bhailog use grey market ki jarurt nahi or me hamesa se khate aa rahahu bank sector kisiko bhi kharidh sakta he kisiko bhi gira sakta he or kisiko bhi khada kar sakta he
259. Shriniwas |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:23:13 AM
Highest bids received in NII category, since January 2016, as per allotment data      
Avenue Supermarkets Limited - Rs 76,339 crores, before rejection.
Cochin Shipyards Limited - Rs 61,693 crores, before rejection.
HUDCO Limited - Rs 59,553 crores, before rejection.
Reliance Nippon Life Asset Management Limited - Rs 48,690 crores, before rejection.
Amber Enterprises India Limited - Rs 46,401 crores, before rejection.
259.1. Shriniwas |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:23:58 AM
With 0.5% Margin & Funding Interest Rate of 8.25% p.a. for 7 days, NII costing is Rs 348 assuming 200 times over-subscription or demand of Rs 73185 crores.
259.2. AKH |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:30:46 AM
IPO Mentor IPO Mentor (900+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
Take Roi 6% p.a.
258. harit |   Link |  Bookmark | July 21, 2018 11:27:58 AM
Great calculation of Srinivas
Thanks