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145. bhupinder |   Link |  Bookmark | March 1, 2010 4:07:34 AM
thanks to budget feb2010.income tax rebate has given enough for purchase of TV &other FMCG ITEMS. so hathway was ina hurry to bring its ipo before budget. now it is time to purchase.Ravi banglore has clarified in a beautiful manner various terms of market demand &supply forces pulling done by bear v/s bulls. which will always happen.this is theory of greed &panic .now do not panic buy buy before u are 2late .tgt390 in 6 months good luck.
144. Jayant shing |   Link |  Bookmark | February 28, 2010 11:12:58 AM
Mr. J.K you are absulitly right, NHPC is 3rd class co. Very poor management ,i think after ipo it will go in BFIR .
143. J.K |   Link |  Bookmark | February 28, 2010 11:07:33 AM
NHPC choro ka badshah.
142. Shiva, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | February 28, 2010 11:00:48 AM
138. KK Natarajan
Don't worry.
FM has proposed project import status to Digital Head End equipment at a concessional customs duty of 5% with full exemption from special additional duty to the initial setting up of such projects.
By 5th March, it will be around its isuue price.
141. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | February 28, 2010 6:20:14 AM
@Ravi, Bangalore
Thanks a lot for your advice, Ravi. If it is going to be a good long term bet, I don't mind keeping. May be I will have the area around 175 as stop loss and hold it. After one week kindly reassess and advice.
140. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | February 28, 2010 12:33:40 AM
133 Srini

A gap is an area on a in which there were no trades. Gaps can offer evidence that something important has happened to the fundamentals or the psychology of the crowd that accompanies this script movement.

Break-down gaps are the disappointing ones. More sellers than buyers.

Gaps can happen in downtrends. This usually represents increased liquidation of the stock by traders and buyers who are standing on the sidelines. These can become very serious as those who are holding onto the stock will eventually panic and sell – but sell to whom? The price has to continue to drop and gap down to find buyers. Not a good situation.

It is almost a state of panic if the gap appears during a long down move and pessimism has set in. Selling all positions to liquidate holdings in the market is not uncommon.

CONCLUSION

There is an old saying that the market abhors a vacuum and all gaps will be filled. While this may have some merit for gaps, holding positions waiting for breakout gaps to be filled can be devastating to your portfolio. Likewise, waiting to get on-board a trend by waiting for prices to fill a gap can cause you to miss the big move.
139. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | February 28, 2010 12:12:09 AM
138. K.K.Natarajan

Fundamentally, its target is 390 as per my information and knowledge. It is bigger than Dish TV.

Technically, if closes above 215, it will become neutral. Fresh buying can be done on close above 230.

As long as it stays below 212, it is bearish. It could fall-down to 177-165 area, 153-135 area or even below 116.

This analysis is not perfect. Minimum one week data required to project long-term targets. It has only two days trading history. Data insufficient to make price projections.

Personally I don't think second and third target would be hit. Wait for at-least one week.
138. sandeep bhardwaj |   Link |  Bookmark | February 27, 2010 10:44:31 PM
public ko gumrah kar rahe hain ander khate under the table prmoter QIB aur HNI ko paise de rahi hai YEH meri jankari ke anusar hathway me 70 rs discount diya hai india bulls power me 10 rs ka aur think soft me HNI ko 35 RS KA YEH PUBLIC KO FASANE KA NAYA TARICA NIKALA HAI BHACHKE RAHO.
137. K.K.Natarajan |   Link |  Bookmark | February 27, 2010 6:26:00 AM
@Ravi, Bangalore
I got 150 shares which I sold for an average price of 227 on the opening day but then made the blunder of covering them at 220. Now I don't know what to do. What is your advice?
136. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | February 26, 2010 7:49:39 PM
132. Srini

If you hold them for another 9 - 10 months, you may recover.

When Nifty falls 15 - 25% you should invest. If you wait for 1 - 2 years to get your turn (for market correction), it will definitely compensate for your patience within six months.

If you buy any Top 500 scripts at reasonable valuation at normal market condition, you can expect similar return in 2 - 3 years.

CONCLUSION

If you wait for correction, it will compensate for your patience.
135. GURU |   Link |  Bookmark | February 26, 2010 2:36:08 PM
I HAD LOST Rs1000/- ON MY 25 ALLOTED SAHRES.
WORST IPO EVER I HAD PATICIPATED. I HOPE SEBI WILL TAKE SOME ACTION IN FUTURE SO THAT HIGH PRCED IPO MAY NOT COME & INVESTORES WILL NOT LOSS MONEY IN THAT
134. Bhavin |   Link |  Bookmark | February 26, 2010 12:13:37 PM
This is the worst IPO ever...lost very heavily....now trading at 190...thinking of buying few more to average out...pls suggest....
133. p chetiya |   Link |  Bookmark | February 26, 2010 10:55:08 AM
Sold @220/- within 2 hrs on listing.Lost badly. Similar was the case in Thangmayil. Hope to recover my Loses from ARSS. Good Luck.
132. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 10:31:26 PM
Cant understand these open or high prices, I am using sharekhan trade tiger, I am watching from the opening second, it shown as opened at 250 but I have seen started with -20(220), even in graph also I am not able to see above issue price, can anyone explain this manipulation.
131. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 9:02:03 PM
@131. Ravi, Bangalore.

Thanks for your kind reply and time taking, I am not feeling much about this loss, lucky that I have existed at the opening moments even though in loss, otherwise I would have seen a loss of 4000.

My IPO's with gain or losses upto now.

1). Godrej Properties profit of Rs.2,200.
2). jubliant foodworks profit of Rs.1,300.
3). Aqua logistics profit of Rs.350.
4). Thangamayil jewelery loss of Rs.11.
5). Syncom healthcare profit of Rs.182.
6). Emmbi polyarns profit of Rs.42.
7). ARSS alloted me 15 shares have to see how much profit I can earn, any sugesstion of buying additional in opening seconds and at what price to sell.
8). Man infra applied 5 lots.
9). UBI applied 6 lots.

But real worry is still I am in around 15000 loss in market, dont know how to recover. My running shares are:
1. 5 BF utilites
2. 20 DLF purchased at 350
3. 20 Educomp purchased at 690
4. 400 GVK power purchased at 46.7
5. 100 punjlloyd purchased at 172
6. 200 suzlon purchased at 88
7. 300 unitech purchased at 85

Sorry for long message, but it would be appreciable if anybody can suggest me when to exit in upcoming IPO's and current shares and recover loss of Rs.15,000/-

Thanks in advance.
130. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 8:37:10 PM
131. Ranjan

130. Srini you may recover your loss in another IPO. Just forget worrying about loss. It happens in traders' life. Just move-on & apply to another good issue.

When an IPO breaches its issue price, selling immediately is a good idea. To know the reason, you should understand basic technical analysis.

SUPPORT & RESISTANCE

Support and resistance represent key junctures where the forces of supply and demand meet. In the financial markets, prices are driven by excessive supply (down) and demand (up). Supply is synonymous with bearish, bears and selling. Demand is synonymous with bullish, bulls and buying. As demand increases, prices advance and as supply increases, prices decline. When supply and demand are equal, prices move sideways as bulls and bears slug it out for control.

WHAT IS SUPPORT?

Support is the price level at which demand is thought to be strong enough to prevent the price from declining further (in this case, IPO issue price of 240). The logic dictates that as the price declines towards support (240) and gets cheaper, buyers become more inclined to buy and sellers become less inclined to sell. By the time the price reaches the support level (240), it is believed that demand will overcome supply and prevent the price from falling below support.

Support does not always hold and a break below support signals that the bears have won out over the bulls. A decline below support (240) indicates a new willingness to sell and/or a lack of incentive to buy. Support breaks and new lows signal that sellers have reduced their expectations and are willing sell at even lower prices. In addition, buyers could not be coerced into buying until prices declined below support or below the previous low. Once support is broken, another support level will have to be established at a lower level.

WHERE IS SUPPORT ESTABLISHED?

Support levels are usually below the current price, but it is not uncommon for a security to trade at or near support. Technical analysis is not an exact science and it is sometimes difficult to set exact support levels. In addition, price movements can be volatile and dip below support briefly. Sometimes it does not seem logical to consider a support level broken if the price closes 1/8 below the established support level. For this reason, some traders and investors establish support zones (in this case I had indicated a support in 211-207 zone in my Post # 129).

WHAT IS RESISTANCE?

Resistance is the price level at which selling is thought to be strong enough to prevent the price from rising further. The logic dictates that as the price advances towards resistance, sellers become more inclined to sell and buyers become less inclined to buy. By the time the price reaches the resistance level, it is believed that supply will overcome demand and prevent the price from rising above resistance.

Resistance does not always hold and a break above resistance signals that the bulls have won out over the bears. A break above resistance shows a new willingness to buy and/or a lack of incentive to sell. Resistance breaks and new highs indicate buyers have increased their expectations and are willing to buy at even higher prices. In addition, sellers could not be coerced into selling until prices rose above resistance or above the previous high. Once resistance is broken, another resistance level will have to be established at a higher level.

WHERE IS RESISTANCE ESTABLISHED?

Resistance levels (in this case today's High of 250) are usually above the current price, but it is not uncommon for a security to trade at or near resistance. In addition, price movements can be volatile and rise above resistance briefly. Sometimes it does not seem logical to consider a resistance level broken if the price closes 1/8 above the established resistance level. For this reason, some traders and investors establish resistance zones.

SUPPORT EQUALS RESISTANCE

Another principle of technical analysis stipulates that support can turn into resistance and visa versa. Once the price breaks below a support level (IPO issue price of 240), the broken support level can turn into resistance. The break of support signals that the forces of supply have overcome the forces of demand. Therefore, if the price returns to this level, there is likely to be an increase in supply, and hence resistance.
The other turn of the coin is resistance turning into support. As the price advances above resistance, it signals changes in supply and demand. The breakout above resistance proves that the forces of demand have overwhelmed the forces of supply. If the price returns to this level, there is likely to be an increase in demand and support will be found.

SUPPORT & RESISTANCE ZONES

Because technical analysis is not an exact science, it is useful to create support and resistance zones. Each security has its own characteristics, and analysis should reflect the intricacies of the security. Sometimes, exact support and resistance levels are best, and, sometimes, zones work better.

Returning to the analysis of Hathway Cable, we can see that the it has become bearish when it breached 229 at 09:01 hours (traded below issue price of 240).

CONCLUSION

Identification of key support and resistance levels is an essential ingredient to successful technical analysis. Even though it is sometimes difficult to establish exact support and resistance levels, being aware of their existence and location can greatly enhance analysis and forecasting abilities. If a security is approaching an important support level (IPO issue price of 240), it can serve as an alert to be extra vigilant in looking for signs of increased buying pressure and a potential reversal. If a security is approaching a resistance level, it can act as an alert to look for signs of increased selling pressure and potential reversal. If a support or resistance level is broken (breaking-down from the issue price of 240), it signals that the relationship between supply and demand has changed. A resistance breakout signals that demand (bulls) has gained the upper hand and a support break signals that supply (bears) has won the battle.

For above reasons, it is a good idea to exit immediately when IPO issue price breaks. Stocks seldom retrace within few weeks after breaking-down from IPO issue price (only about 10% scripts may retrace within few weeks or months).

129. james bond |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 3:23:50 PM
hi,

bang on target, i have now purchased 500 shares at 205/- and will easily sell at 225/- or so......as i told you to be prepare for losses as this share is highly priced and will loot like every other ipo............people just do not understand the game ..............called stock market...........now wait and watch the game of real gamer the big bull...............
128. Srini |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 1:18:23 PM
My first IPO loss, lost 1300 in this, sold 150 share at 231.30.
127. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 12:40:50 PM
Hathway Cable 219- Target 211-207 zone, 203-197 zone or even below 190. Stop-loss 233 (Valid for intra-day only).

If stop-loss is crossed, may rise up to 238.

As stop-loss is wide, risk-averse traders can short above 223.

Stop-loss is important. There is risk of loss in trading.

It is fundamentally good stock. May be continuous loss and under-reporting by cable operators regarding house-hold connections might have caused the price damage. However, it is good long-term investment.

126. Rishi |   Link |  Bookmark | February 25, 2010 10:48:19 AM
Now, what will be do?
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