Estimate subscription Qib 80 to 100 times Bhni 60 to 70 times Shni 50 to 55 times Ri 15 to 20 times
462.1. B.M.SURANA| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 9:28:42 AM
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Aap se 90 % Sahmat hun
462.2. Liger| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 10:26:05 AM
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Going to surprise with its record subscription QIB 120 times HNI 80 times Retail 30 times
Nowadays lot of money flowing into SME ipos and lot of money got stuck in it due to too many SME ipo's running parallelly. Otherwise this IPO could have even higher subscription figures than the final closing figures of today.
460. lucky boy| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 9:23:38 AM
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[ HARSHA ENGINEERING 3rd party HERE ] 👇👇 💰💰
applyed 13 application 13............ i know there is rejection chances because nowdays everyone talking about 3rd pary. but still applyed... all members share your last 7-8 ipos experience if you applyed 3 rd party... i get many 3rd party IPO before ,,,,,,,,,,
460.1. Kami| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 9:46:35 AM
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I got 2 retail-3rd party UPI in syrma, 3 retail -3rd party in campus(2asba+1upi) 3rd party
Paradeep and aether (2+2) all four 3rd party UPI They were under subscribe
460.2. Finexpert| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 9:47:10 AM
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Got alloted in dreamfolks via 3rd party upi as wells as 3rd party asba. I think Linkintime and kfin are considering 3rd party applications in huge subscribe ipos.
Hello experts which of this strategy will give me better allotment chance considering the subscription figure I have 15L 7account 1.1bhni and 2shni and 4 retail 2.7 shni 3.7 retail Please help Thank you
To make things clear here,,, I want to point out that i applied 3rd party asba net banking and 3rd party asba UPI in LIC (kfintech) and emudhra (linkintime).
I was alloted by both methods....in these respective IPOs. 4/4 emudhra ( 1 lot by 3rd party upi). 4/4 lic ( 1 lot by 3rd party upi).
I did use 3rd party UPI handle because listing gains were none and i had to wait till 5 to see the subscription.
So sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't ..as admin already pointed out that banks do tend to get lazy and revert the registrar back with incomplete information, hence confirming your application.
For Harsha i applied, 3 Shni applications from 3 bank accounts.., 6 RETAIL applications (SBI 1 UPI + 5 NET BANKING ASBA ) from 4TH ACCOUNT AND 4 RETAIL APPLICATIONS ( SBI NET BANKING) FROM 5TH ACCOUNT.
TOTAL 3 SHNI + 10 RETAIL.( FINAL)
KEEPING SOME MONEY FOR SME.
SO IF 3RD PARTY NET BANKING WORKS THEN I'LL LET YOU GUYS KNOW BY REPLYING BELOW THIS THREAD ON ALLOTMENT DAY.
@Monster Zero Point understood. But the issue is how do you know that your application was accepted or rejected by registrar. Because in case of non allotment, when you receive details, many a times reason for non allotment not given.
That's what I want to prove....i have been allotted through 3rd party asba net banking many times in the past.... that's why I opened 24 retail accounts with Upstox. Since most people are pointing out that it doesn't work anymore, we'll come to know soon. I'll keep doing this for upcoming IPOs as well to make/ break my belief.
@Monster Zero - if i understand this currently, are you saying that you are using a demat account which is not linked to bank account and got alloted as well. I thought sebi has already nullified that rule of using single bank account for multiple demat IPO. Are you using UPI or net banking facility? Appreciate your help!
Is this make any issue, when applying in HNI category (Shni or Bhni) through ASBA, where it shows CUTOFF / OPTION(For pricing). Can we use any 1 out of 2.
453.7. P Patel| Link| Bookmark|
September 15, 2022 7:36:11 PM
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@hitsur - In HNI category, you can't apply with cutoff option, you need to apply with specific price, ideally should be applied with higher range.
I am using IOB for ASBA, when i apply in HNI category, it shows 2 option 1 - CUTOFF (Automatic takes higher amont, like in Harsha Engg - Rs.330) 2 - OPTION (Here is not show me any price, but last figure 2,07900/- shows in final amount and again i use to type 330/share and it doesnt effect with the end figure)
@Monster Zero - Thanks sir and respect for @Darpan Gangadhar Rajasthan on managing these many accounts all together. Also, is there any specific bank which you guys are using for 3rd party or anyone will do.
I am amazed to see how can one open these many different accounts .. the friends/relatives list is long it seems..lol 😜
& all their relatives/friends are not much aware about IPO/Stock Market.
453.16. Gujju IPO| Link| Bookmark|
September 15, 2022 8:55:22 PM
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@Monster ji Muje thoda confusion h Jo IPO jyada subscribe nahi hua usme aapko third party allotment Mila or past me third party se allotment milta tha but Ab bahot jyada oversubscribed IPO me kya third party allotment possible h?
@monster zero (any ipo veteran can answer this too) In zerodha it is showing employee category too for harsha ipo , can a person apply in it even if he is not the employee of the company without getting rejection because it is not asking for any proof , a quick response would be appreciated
@harry potter - they will check the employee status based on pan. Avoid doing this because the application will be rejected in this case unless it will be missed which is highly unlikly
453.23. Monster Zero| Link| Bookmark|
September 22, 2022 12:44:33 AM
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As promised I'm updating the status...
0/1 shni 0/1 shni 0/6 retail 1/5 retail ( allotment with 3rd party asba sbi net banking)
3rd part asba works...💥
Couldn't apply 3rd shni application due to megaflex fund block.
Hi all, There are lots of discussion going on 3rd party application being valid or not? My take on this:- This is absolutely wrong, all 3rd party application are valid. I will give below 2 main reason for supporting my claim,
1)Bank rejects 3rd party application as per SEBI mandate :- If that was the case then after applying ipo, why we get message and mail of our bidding being submitted to exchange. Also in netbanking status it shows application executed on exchange. If bank rejected on matching pan of dmat and bank account, it would not have submitted our application to exchange.
2)Even if we assume that somehow bank submitted our application, then the registrar should have made our 3rd part application invalid. If you see BOA of most of the ipo, you will see the technical rejection and all constitute max 20 percent in RII and 10 percent in HNI. If the registrar rejected 3rd party application then these rejection numbers in BOA should have been much more higher than 20 or 10 percent, but it is not the case.
Appreciate you views on above points. Thanks
450.1. antarix| Link| Bookmark|
September 15, 2022 10:34:50 PM
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Good analysis IPO Guy. Further, all those who are very confident that 3rd party applications are not allowed, should experiment with 3rd party in a less subscribed IPO like Ishan International where oversubscription is only 1.6 times. They will realize that 3rd party application are not only allowed but also get allotments.
450.2. Ou Ai| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 7:27:45 AM
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@IPOGUY Currently IPO application is a seamless process where it passes through the bank to exchange via syndicate members without any verifications. So merely getting an application number and email from exchange is not confirmation of valid application. Verification is now post closure. To avoid burden of post closure , most banks already implemented disallowing 3rd party at application stage. Those who are in process of doing it need to verify post closure. Registrars have no role to paly now after 1st May 2022. Technical rejections include applications with price out of band, odd prices, number of shares in not in lots, applying in wrong categories and 3rd party. Where as some broker and bank sites are enabled to ensure that such lot multiple, price multiple can not be entered incorrectly, few still allow this happen and again not verified at the time of submission. All rejections are post closure now.
Those claiming to have got allotment on 3rd party are in past issues when several banks offered systems to link multiple account Demat account of accountholder which was abused to link non accountholders Demat. With each IPO more and more banks are disallowing. Also few cases banks are confirming post closure without verification will also reduce to follow SEBI mandate.
However one can always still try and submit if the bank is allowing submission ....
In Axis Bank Asba, single category retail with less than 2 lakhs and with more than 2 lakhs. Choose this one. If applying for SHNI then place order up to 10 lakhs and for BHNI above 10 lakhs. Donot select cutoff.
448. Bullish| Link| Bookmark|
September 16, 2022 6:46:11 AM
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