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Gujarat Pipavav Port Ltd (GPPL) IPO Message Board (Page 63)

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284. S C Gupta |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 3:26:53 PM
not bad you can apply
283. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 3:03:37 PM
Dear SJ,

Why you should not argue with people

Sharing the your views with an interested person is one thing. Arguing and debating with them is another. Talking out an issue is good. Disagreeing and trying to understand one another is good. However, arguing about our views is not good and neither it is necessary. The market stands alone regardless of whether a heretic thinks they get the last word or not! The market STILL stands! If you spend all your time defending what you believe, you wouldn't have time to do anything else!

You get all kinds of folks coming here- bullish, bearish etc. Most have (I am commenting with due respect to some honest & dignified Board Members) one thing in common--they are false prophets bringing their views without any due digilence or want to attack some people. We are commanded not to argue with them and I've learned the hard way to obey these commandments. Striving with people will certainly eat you as doth a canker as the scripture saith. Here are just a couple of scriptures for your consideration:

For foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do strifes & rifts.

Answer a person according to his folly, let them learn on their own follies -- you got to use wisdom to know when to ignore a person and when to answer a person.

I don't mind if you argue with me, if our views are different, because I know the TRUTH i.e. what is MARKET?!!!
282. BOLO TARA RA RA |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 2:56:55 PM
THIS ISSUE WILL GIVE LESS THAN RS. 1000 PER LAC RETURN OR EVEN LOSS.

MARK MY WORDS.

I WILL BE THERE ON LISTING DATE. U WILL SEE.

BOLO TARA RA RA

281. ban |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 2:44:03 PM
can we invest in IPO -pipav ltd,
280. Sam |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 2:19:56 PM
Hi Ravi,Bangalore & Setu jain.
I appreciate u guys for ur incredible posts. Before setu comes in I used to follow Ravi.
I am silent person in chittorgarh very raraely posts things.
I am enjoying your posts especially in SKS setu jain did incredible job( I benfitted lot on posts are acted as catalysts my ground work)
You no need to convence people here by taking pain.
Just post your views and research things.
Thanks a lot setu and ravi.
Keep post your valuble views which will be benfit other silent bolggers like me.
279. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 2:15:32 PM
287 sj is not me......someone else
278. AMIT AGRAWAL |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 2:04:40 PM
DEAR SK CURRENT GMP IS 8.50/8.75 AND KOSTAK IS 1700
277. B.M |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 2:01:04 PM
Singapur govt. Has bought this shares, i will apply 4 full appl. 30% listing gain conform.
276. SJ |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 1:59:14 PM
Don't apply this IPO.Very Expencive.Huge Loss making since company inception.Book Value only 8.50 Rs. EPS is Negative. So very very high loss.
This will list surelly below issue price.
(listing 35 to 38 insider information.)
275. SUMEET |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 1:15:41 PM
PLEASH UP DATE CURENT GMP FOR GUJRAT PIPAVAV PORT LTD.
274. Amar |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 1:09:51 PM
GUJARAT Pipavav Port, promoted by APM Terminals, the ports division of the Danish-giant AP Moller-Maersk, has benefited from a strong growth in volume of traffic handled at its port facilities in the country for the past few years.
And that’s because of a shorter lead distance between the port and its clients in northern India. Lead distance refers to the distance in kilometers between the port and the end-user facilities. In addition, the government is focusing on expanding infrastructure facilities, including ports, which has led to increased investor interest for the sector.
Gujarat Pipavav Port plans to raise 500 crore via its offering of nearly 10.4 crore shares in the primary equity market, at the top end of the price band of 42 to 48 per share. In addition, there is an offer to sell by the existing shareholders aggregating nearly 56.2 crore. Post issue, the promoter group’s stake would reduce from 57.9% to 43.5% levels. The company plans to use up to 300 crore of the IPO proceeds for repaying loans and its secured loans amounted to 1,072.6 as of March 2010. Further, 82.5 crore are earmarked for capex to enhance the infrastructure facilities at its port, and 31.08 crore for purchasing a mobile harbour crane.
BUSINESS : Gujarat Pipavav claims to be the country’s first private sector port player and it offers both multi-cargo and multi-user operations. Gujarat Pipavav has obtained the right to develop and operate this port and allied facilities till September 2028.
The company commissioned its first jetty and commenced its cargo handling
ns in November 199 the acquisition of management control of Gujarat Pipavav by APM Terminus in March 2005, the capacities of this port have been scaled up. It can handle up to 0.6 million TEUs (twenty foot equivalent) of container cargo, as well as nearly five million tonnes of bulk cargo.
The company is principally engaged in providing port handling and marine services for container cargo, bulk cargo and LPG cargo. In addition, it also generates revenues from land-related and infrastructure activities, like warehouses and a port users’ building to accommodate offices of custom house agents and shipping lines.
Gujarat Pipavav, like other ports operating in the region, has benefited from a gradual shift in traffic towards ports in Gujarat, given a shorter lead distance between this port and its clients in northern India. As a result, during the year ended December 2009, this port had handled 3.37 million tonne of bulk cargo, a CAGR of nearly 42.5% from two years earlier. It also handled 0.32 million TEUs of container cargo at the end of CY09, a CAGR of 29.8% from two years earlier. Its larger rival Mundra Port and Special Economic Zone had handled 40.29 million tonne of cargo for the year ended March 2010, a rise of 18.3% on a CAGR basis from two year ago.
FINANCIALS: Gujarat Pipavav Port’s operating revenues grew at a compounded annual growth rate (CAGR) of 17.5% between 2006 and 2009 to reach 219.1 crore. A tight check on costs resulted into 29.7% CAGR in its operating profit at 44.1 crore during this period. However, the burden of servicing its loans resulted in a borrowing cost of 115.7 crore in CY09, a two-fold jump in three years. As a result, it had a net loss of 117.7 crore for the previous financial year. The loss has widened compared to CY08 and CY07. In addition, the company had a negative return on net worth between CY06 and CY09. In contrast, its peer Mundra Port’s (MPSEZ) operational income grew at a CAGR of 36.6% during the period ended March 2007 and March 2010 to reach 1,495.5 crore, while its net profit grew at a CAGR of 53.4% during this period to 676 crore.
CONCERNS : Gujarat Pipavav Port had reported a net loss in its three financial years ended CY09. The trend has continued even in the March 2010 quarter. This is largely due to the burden of servicing its loan, and Gujarat Pipavav is attempting to improve its financial health by utilising a part of the IPO proceeds for reducing its loans outstanding.
However, doubts still remain as to whether the company will be able to post a net profit, going forward. Senior company management highlighted that developing a port and allied infrastructure requires substantial investment over several years and they are confident of their growth prospects, considering the revival in the country’s external trade.
VALUATIONS : Gujarat Pipavav Port trades at 4.9 times its trailing book value at the top end of the price band, while rival MPSEZ trades at 9.2 times its trailing book value. However, given the rather patchy financial track record of Gujarat Pipavav Port, investors could well give this issue a miss.
273. NOT CARELESS BUT JUST CARE LESS |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 1:09:50 PM
DEAR FRIENDS, (PRAKASH STEELAGE LTD)
PRAKASH STEELAGE ME JISNE APPLY NAHI KIYA HE WO LOG JANTE HE KI USKE HATH SE ACHHA SA PROFIT NIKAL GAYA HE, SO AS A PART OF JEALOUS AND ENVY THEY ARE SPREADING RUMORS LIKE, IT WILL LIST IN DISCOUNT,,,THEY HAVE NOT ENOUGH COURAGE TO SUBSCRIBE THIS ISSUE, RUMORS SE DISCOUNT NAHI JAYEGA DOST........ISKE ALAWA ACHHA HE SIDE CHANG KAR KE MARKET ME SE 12RS. PREMIUM ME MIL RAHA HE WO LE LE OR ISKO LISTING KE DIN 135 TO 150 ME BECHE.

GRACE TO ENVIOURS,

THX FRIENDS.
272. ken shah |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 1:08:18 PM
sj should i subscribe pipavav
271. Amit |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:59:20 PM
Dear IPO Raja & SJ,
What is GMP of Gujrat Pipavav IPO today?
270. Sj |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:54:35 PM
@ RAVI

I think you are right.

I should not reply to these stupid people who make baseles arguments without analysis.

I will only post when anybody asks me something...or if i think there is some necessary information needed to be posted.

Regards

Setu
269. BOL TARA RA RA |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:52:39 PM
DEAR ALL

I TOLD U ALL THAT ITS A BAD IPO AT A TIME WHEN GREY MARKET PRICES WERE FIRM AT RS. 10. NOW AFTER 2-3 DAYS LATER WHEN THERE WILL BE MUCH LESSER GREY PRICES EVERYONE WILL START SAYING ITS A BAD IPO.

BUT GUYS DONT LISTEN TO GREY MARKET, LISTEN TO FUNDAMENTALS AND GROWTH PROSPECTUS ONLY.

THIS IS AN "AIR DECCAN" TYPE STORY.

DONT GET FOOLED BY RESEARCH REPORTS OR BROKERAGE HOUSE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ITS YOUR MONEY AND U CAN TAKE BETTER CARE OF IT.

MY OPINION : DONT APPLY OR SELL IN GREY IF U CAN
RETURNS WILL BE LESS THAN RS. 1000 PER LAC APPLICATION AND EVEN LOSS COULD BE THERE ON LISTING.

BOLO TARA RA RA
268. Ravi, Bangalore |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:43:29 PM
SJ

Don't try to reply each & everybody separately. Many people post messages for time-pass even without doing due digilence. Even most Boarders does not know that Fundamental & Technical Analysis are at logger-heads. Many people don't want to put stop-loss but expect short-term gains. Above all, to convince by collecting lot of information, it takes lot of your time & energy.

People subscribe for recommendations paying Rs.5,000 to 20,000 per month. Such unregulated entities themselves don't care for paid clients.

Don't take so much pain to convince each & everybody for their every point. They are not your paid clients.

Last date is Thursday. Give your final decision on Wednesday. People themselves will judge & come to you after some days.
267. NM |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:40:20 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
BOLO TARA LOOKS LIKE YOUR INFO IS ON TRACK..APPLICATION KA BHAV KUM HO GAYA .KOSTAK 1500/- APPLY KARNE SE PAHLE SOCHNA AB JAROORI HAI
266. NM |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:36:38 PM
IPO Guru IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 500+ Likes)
dear IB @ 254 ,THANKS FOR GIVING SUCH WODEDERFUL LINK..ONE CAN SAY IT IS EYE OPENER FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO APPLY IN THIS GUJARAT PIPAVAV IPO..THANKS..KDLY GO TO LIVEMINT REPORT ON THIS LINK..
265. sj |   Link |  Bookmark | August 23, 2010 12:19:40 PM
@terns 1) it may or may not give listing gains................. Just in case of pipavav as you rightly pointed out.......dont panic if it falls.....khali hand change hoga.....operator...or retail bechenge or institution corner kar lenge,.....girne pe average kariyega....
2) hold for a period of 2-3 years for multi returns...if u are not patient for that long or have liquidity problems plz avoid....strictly...................... 3) as i mentioned price target for dec 2010 is rs. 60 for dec 2011.......is 75 ......and for dec 2012 is......180.........and 250 at least by 2013........on conservative basis.......................