GPT Healthcare Limited IPO Message Board (Page 10)

Milega bhai jarur milega apko aaj night me allotment bcz
BHNI 12 times mtlb 2.20 times
2 par 1 ko allotment milega isme...

​@Rabb Kareshi Anytime between late evening to late night..

​@Thiagarajan Ramasamy  Since it was bought by Sagar group after JP fiasco and still PAT is in negative , further gone down QonQ in q3 24 , price moving up 1800% in a year , some finance guy can crack the nuts for us. Positive sentiments for cement industry may fetch good buyer.

​@crsl  Recall , you and some other regular members love to go in for OFS....can you through some light .

PS- OFS for retail is on 28th instead of 29th .

​@Thiagarajan Ramasamy ​@Rakcyt When the resolution plan was approved in May 2023, and the stock was removed from suspension, the stock started from zero and hence has traded as per quarterly results, the reason behind the 1800% parabolic move.

The results for cement companies in general have been good because of raw material prices, especially crude lingering at not so high levels as OPEC would have wanted. Even the war between Israel and Palestine did not give that spark. This resulted in improved profit margins for the companies. Look how Ultratech performed. But going ahead, as interest rates get a cut, if as expected, the raw material, in general commodities, won't be as cheap as current due to fall in USD, which will impact margins going ahead, so with that in view mere positive sentiment due to capex driven sentiments won't push this stock up as decrease in OPM margins clearly show it has lost pricing power just after few quarters of getting revived, which affects its sales. Plus cement companies are more of YoY outlook than QoQ.

As for the OFS, since its a price priority basis OFS, the equilibrium price will be slightly higher than floor price of Rs 90. Keep a tab on the equilibrium price close to 3:30 PM. Stock will move lower as it has today after OFS annoucement as an interested person looking to corner a big chunk of shares without block deal comes in to grab shares at lower prices and post OFS you will generally see a 10-12% rally in the prices.

​@MuStrFc  Thanks for elaborate and clear thoughts . Your idea is in line to pick up when it goes down on OFS opening day . May be formal budget post budget will cheer infra as well as cement industry as expected

@Rakcyt @MuStrFc 
Thanks a lot for your valuable inputs.

​@MuStrFc @Rakcyt Its close, How to find the expected allotment price?

​@TheFundedFools https://www.bseindia.com/markets/publicissues/OFSIssuse_new.aspx

Check this link which shows the indicative (equilibrium price). Its closed for non retail today. For retail begins tomorrow

It was my first time, and I applied at 109, that is, around 3% below from closing price as heard from some experts, but equilibrium price it showing is only 100.97.
Bahut dukh drd peeda ho rha

​@MuStrFc Btw, thanks for replying buddy

Honestly I went off track after it rebound from 105 today .
Will closely watch trow for live subscription for retail . I have failed in 3 previous attempts in OFS so not sure of success this time either .
Let's see .
​@MuStrFc What do you suggest as best practice for trow

​@Rakcyt The indicative price for non retail is 100.9 as i last checked, which becomes the cut -off for Retail OFS. Expect the final retail indicative price to be higher than this.

What i would have done to get differential advantage :
Pay close watch near 15:20 to 15:30 tomorrow at retail indicative price and CMP. If CMP is somehow higher than the indicative one, place your OFS bid at or above that. If it is lower than indicative one, if by any means, make a bid higher than indicative price.

Reason for bidding at higher than indicative or CMP is better allotment chances, as even though our bid will be at a higher price, the final allotment will be done on indicative price and the balance amount will be refunded back.

There's no point of watching indicative price..expected cutt off for non retail may be near 105.5-106.

I placed bid at 104.55 but due to last 5 seconds surge, missed allotment by around Re. 1

​@Boring Investor  Agree with you as the movements are really tricky . If today you missed at 105.55 then trow it may cross 110 also .
My point is that despite discount @20% the equilibrium price is high and share also didn't breach 100 mark .Is it worth it ??

I placed order @ 103.80 but it settled down @ 105.50.
Not that lucrative at those level as it touched even touched 105 in pre-open.
But can give short term return as it oversubscribed to 400% in bidding.

​@TheFundedFools Equilibrium price is irrelevant. They just show the weighted average of all bids.
It settled @ 105.5. It is still 3% more but you can be little less sad now.

​@Anuwak Sounds familiar in my 3 earlier fiasco as I faced similar situation. If I correlate with the previous trends to me it is apparently the bottom price of share on that day which becomes a bench mark and should be respected . Today for ACL it was 105 plus . Good learning for trow .

​@Anuwak Is there any specific trick to guess the allotment price?

I applied this ofs under NII @14.54 hrs & put a bid price of 106.40 and successful in Andhra Cement, {ACI } Offer for sale.
Tomorrow it's open for retailers. Those who missed the journey may join here.

​@abc xyz  Could you pls share your strategy for selecting the said price for benefit of all as it has become like cracking NEET exam 😊

​@abc xyz Another hit OFS with allotment here, congrats Sir.

​@Thiagarajan Ramasamy 
Thank you so much for your post of OFS of Andhra Cement. By reading your post only I came to know about this ofs and decided to participate in it. There wasn't any publicity of this ofs. Once again Thank you Dil se.

​@MuStrFc 
Thank you for your good wishes but as I wrote the real person for this is Thiagarajan Sir. Credit goes to him only.

​@Rakcyt 
Dear Sir,
It's a very simple and not a rocket🚀 science. One have to balance between the Prevailing Market price & Bidding price. If you balance it well, you will be a winner.

For retail, OFS date is 28 Feb.
IMO if we are allotted around 102-105, still we can earn around 15-20% in short term.

Thanks dear @abc xyz  . I will not use my Scientific knowledge here 😊

​@Rakcyt It was very very small OFS. Generally after OFS is announced, stock price corrects by 10% (depending on the floor price). It is very rare to see that stock price closed higher than last day closing.

@TheFundedFools  we simply have to keep on checking the bids on BSE & NSE websites. & keep our bid ₹1-2 higher than the anticipated allotment price.
Last succesful OFS was NHPC in january.

​@Anuwak sir, can you please share the link to see live equilibrium price, so we can bid in retail category for live price,

@abc xyz sir, can you please help us for apply in retail category.

I thought same and kept funds from upcoming IPOs

Ended up with only 3 retail applications.
Avoided BHNI and 1 retail.
Kept funds for exicom and forth coming IPOs
Hope 1-2 retail allotments, willing to keep for long term with SL of (-10%) of ipo price

Only two negative

1- WB centric
2- low qib (17x)!!

Refund from GPT will be done on 28th Feb. Exicom and Platinum both closing on 29th. So refund from GPT can be be used for the other two ipos comfortably

And what if, someone got allotment (most likely)?

​@harit Sir , I cannot understand your ultimate aim is to make profit(with some risk) or get refund? If you have dilemma then You should not apply for less subscribed ipos

​@G profit , that's why I said "If applied and allotted... which is very likely.."

- In that case, funds can not be cycled to apply in Platinum or Exicom, both of which have an "Apply" recommendation and thus are prima-facie supposed to give better listing gains.

Refunds (non-allotment) can ofcourse be used in those, but that is an almost 50-50 chance in Retail category here, so not really "comfortable" for small retailers with limited funds. :)

Let's just hope that this one doesn't disappoint those looking for decent listing gains. I may keep at least one lot for long term if allotted.

​@harit , good planning sir !

​@Mogambo ka Bhateeja @harit 
My query is same as asked by @G profit  and wondering if you are so sure about alottment in upcoming IPOs where subscription rate will be sky high with hardly any chance of allotment unless some astrologer has predicted it for you 😊
Boond boond se Sagar Banta hai ....shayad purani baat ho gayi hai 😄

​@Rakcyt sir, my logic is simple - 50% chance of very small profit (or loss) in GPT Vs 90% chance of equally small (or big) profits in the next two.
That's a prima facie impression, not a conclusion of any detailed study.

We are not expecting very high listing gain in GPT. Whereas in case of loss, recovery may take a long time. Means money stuck or exit in loss.

While in the next two, even if we don't get allotment, there 'appears' to be a high chance of (roughly equally small) profit even through post-listing purchase. That would require purchasing power which may not be available if money gets stuck in GPT.

And of course I haven't discounted the chance of profit in GPT, which is why I have applied anyway.

​@Rakcyt Ji
When a person get 25 allotments in 2023
In highly subsidised IPOs including 2 tata tech and 2 BHNI allotments in 2024 doesn't need astrologer 😊😊
(On a lighter note)
No one can predict what hide in future but one should optimistic for a better results.

Add to that,
My strategy is simple,
I always go for 1-2 retail allotments (which I can hold longer term if needed) in an average looking IPOs (like gpt)
and go full force (FF) in decent rewarding IPOs.

Different people are investing, with different goals and different mindset with different risk appetite

bharo bharo...
P can touch 15 rs

GPT premium 10 buyer....

GPT HAAL MAAL LAAV MAAL

P 17 RS BUYER....

aapdo target pass...

Excellent 👌👌 bro....

Another Bluejet (y)

​@Chalak Lomdi Ji, appreciate your input which was of great help. Thanks 👍🙏

excellent prediction

13.25

हेड्स आया तो मै जीता
पट आया तो तु हारा ..😅😅

I don't think anybody needs to give proof of his investment/application just to show his/her credibility.
Just my opinion.

मैं तो कहता हूं आप पुरुष ही नहीं है...
महापुरुष हैं महापुरुष। 😅😅

This is just forum for sharing opinions and thoughts. Not to prove a point to anyone. If people do, let them be. Let's not break our head. Nothing can be predicted in stock market nor the credibility of someone online.

​@Tejas Pandya Nice one

I am not saying ki anyone needs to prove a point, but new & inexperienced members here look upon senior members with heavy tags given by CG team. Ofcourse it has to be an individual decision, but not everyone is capable of that. Infact 90% people here, even with heavy tags rely solely on GMP. Agar aisa nahi hota to Atmastco ka subscription itna kam nahi rehta.
Just my thoughts, kisi ko point nahi kar raha sir ji.. isliye kripya koi bhi ladne ke iraade se na aaye :)

Applied ff... Its high risk ..

​@Anuwak  You pray for my for getting BHNI , I will share sweets with you as a proof 😀

​@Anuwak Applied 6 Retail, half of them accepted later after 3. Although most of the respected members have shared their view, but just to put it into context, refer the attached screenshot

​@Anuwak Sir, eventhough it is only a request by you for providing proof, You can note that some of the IPO mentors are high networth individuals and very busy. And also due to the bunching of ipos, we cannot expect them to take a screenshot of each and every application,then smudge the pan numbers, then make a collage and then post them. I think it is enough if We read their ideas and follow our instinct.

​@G profit ये स्पेशल रिक्वेस्ट सिर्फ कम GMP वाले आईपीओ के लिए ही है..Exicom या platinum में नही की जाएगी..😅😂

​@MuStrFc Sir..itne efforts ke liye dil se thank you. Itne screenshots ko merge karne ke efforts se hi seriousness dikh gayi sir. Wish you a good allotment & even better listing.

​@G profit I definitely agree with you, Sir. It was just because this IPO had so much different views & GMP was fluctuating. Also GMP was not matching the fundamentals. I sincerely thanks to all the members (senior or new) for their efforts of giving out of the box details here. It was helpful in Atmastco as I got 2/7 allotments.
@Tejas Pandya Haha! sahi pakde hai sir ji.

And I understand even if fundamentals are good, good GMP is equally necessary. Jab tak kisi script me activity/volume na ho tab tak kitna bhi accha stock kyun na ho, jyada upar nahi jaayega..
Keep up the good work members.

Why should I do that? This forum is all about sharing views and opinion. Everyone here are adults. One should take decisions based on their rational. No one should follow others blindly afterall it's your money. Simple as that

​@Anuwak Lemme share that I applied multiple BHNI to give you much desired confidence with presumption that I am taking calculated risk as everything is not Happy-Go-Lucky in stock market rather it's topsy-turvy .
You may be new entrant in market so my advise is to avoid blindly following what others are doing rather study and analyse, consider why members are writing wrong about it as that gives you an idea of risk factors. Read all about pros and cons and do analysis as an individual has his own risk appetite.
Good luck

Took a calculated risk and applied 6 lots at last moment.