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75. Vins |   Link |  Bookmark | September 1, 2009 3:47:57 PM
Never Believe SP Tulsian - Peeke Advice deta hain, Empee mein paise lutwa diya peeikad ne. Commision milta hain isko recommendatation likhne ka
74. TARUN |   Link |  Bookmark | September 1, 2009 1:31:33 PM
Hi All,

Be warned.

In Ahmedabad and Gujarat, Jain brokers and traders will not touch anything which is dealing in meat products and liquor.
They will pass this saying we don't want any bad money of liquor.People drink and lose money,go home and beat their wife/child,become lazy,lose jobs,rape under influence of liquor etc.Liquor companies make money by diverting people into bad activities.
So why try to make money out of some one's misery and tragedy is the logic of Gujjus and they are very big players in the market.
Same for Muslims.Liquor is Harami.They won't touch this scrip.

Why should you?It will not get support.
Will list lower than offer price.

Don't go near this.
There are other scrips in the secondary market or wait for good IPOs
73. Rani |   Link |  Bookmark | September 1, 2009 10:22:28 AM
Hi All,

Now, when Market corrects for 250 points, Adani is on Oxygen. When market corrects for 300-600 points then Adani will be in ICU.
When, markets corrects further, think where Adani will live or Die????
Same thing will happen to Jindel Cotex, Globus Spirits and Oil India Corporation.

Jago Retailers Jago!!
72. Tiger shankar |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 8:51:09 PM
Guys! Make use of SP tulsian Suggestions..
Do exactly the opposite of what he says and you will reap profits.
that website is junk...
see the past history of all IPO recommendations it will exactly be the opposite

I think oil india & Globus spirits are safe bet for a small amount investing?
71. dsg |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 3:23:19 PM
what about globus spirit? Apply or Not? If yes expected listing price
70. arindam |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 3:07:56 PM
Globus Spirits, a Delhi-based liquor manufacturer, is raising funds from the primary equity market to fund its expansion plans and market own liquor brands. Post issue, shareholding of promoter and promoter group will come down from the current 96.4% to 59.8%.

Business:

Globus Spirits, established in 1993, has three lines of business — industrial alcohol (rectified spirit and extra neutral alcohol), country liquor, and Indian made foreign liquor (IMFL). Industrial alcohol comprises 17% of total revenue of Globus, while country liquor contributes 36%. The rest comes from IMFL segment wherein Globus carries out contract manufacturing for other established IMFL players including Jagatjit Industries and Allied Distillers and Blenders and also manufactures its own brands. Prices of country liquor are fixed by state governments and are revised once in a year. Globus sells its country liquor brands in Delhi, Haryana, Rajasthan, Utter Pradesh, and Chandigarh. It commands 20% market share in Delhi and 15% in Chandigarh.

Globus sells its own IMFL brands in Haryana, Rajasthan, Chandigarh, Uttar Pradesh, Kerala, Andhra Pradesh, and Karnataka. It plans to launch its brands in Punjab, Uttaranchal, and Pondicherry by March 2010. The company is currently operating at full capacity of 28.8 million bulk litres from its two plants located in Haryana and Rajasthan. Both the plants have swing capacities , which can be used to distill either molasses or grain.

This offers flexibility of raw materials depending on their price fluctuations. Globus plans to use half of the IPO proceeds to increase its capacity to 49.8 million bulk litres. It would use another Rs 28.5 crore to market and create awareness of its IMFL brands. Financials: Globus has seen sustained growth over last four years. Sales grew at a three-year compounded annual growth rate (CAGR) of 32% whereas net profit rose by 35.2%. Its profit before interest, tax and depreciation rose by 46% during the said period.

Compared to its listed peers such as United Spirits, Radico Khaitan, Jagatjit Industries and Empee Distilleries, Globus is a relatively small player with net sales of Rs 197 crore in FY’ 09. Its net margin has been under pressure in recent periods due to increase in interest costs. This is on account of higher working capital requirement.

Valuations:

At the higher end of the price band, Globus seeks a P/E of 15.3 on post dilution basis. This is much higher than P/E of 5 commanded by Tilaknagar Industries, the Rs 389 crore Maharashtra-based distiller, which also has own brands. Tamil Nadu-based Rs 558 crore Empee Distilleries, which floated its IPO in 2007, trades at a P/E of 13.

Globus appears less expensive when compared with the valuations of industry leaders. Radico Khaitan with FY ’09 net sales of Rs 700 crore is trading at 102 times its trailing twelve month P/E whereas Rs 4,000 crore Unites Spirits is valued at a P/E of 33. Other bigger peers including Khoday India and Jagatjit Industries have reported losses in FY ’09.

Risks:

While the company is well placed in its country liquor business, its foray into own IMFL brands seems to be a bit ambitious. At one end, Globus will gain access to higher profitability business if it succeeds in branded IMFL business (it enjoys operating margin of 20% on its branded IMFL business compared with 7% on contract manufacturing , and 15% each on country liquor and industrial alcohol).

The company’s IMFL distillation capacity is less than 1% of the industry capacity. It faces stiff competition from established brands in the states in which it has launched its brands. Grabbing the mind share of consumers in an established liquor market is tough, given the ban on advertisements. Also, the company has not yet registered its IMFL brands as trademarks, which means it is yet to protect its intellectual rights.

Globus’s country liquor business looks promising. However, expansion into IMFL calls for caution as the company’s small-scale of operations may make the transition difficult. Given these factors and a comparatively steep pricing, only investors with high risk appetite should consider the IPO.

----The Economic Times....
69. Rajan |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 2:07:24 PM
Dont Compare EMPEE and Globus. Empee is in a markets with the largest volumes. TN, Kerala, Karnataka and AP - all four have more than 65% of the total imfl market.

This company (Globus) is a bit shaky..and also too diluted in their objectives. Also building brands is not their cup of tea. They are in the bulk business and 90% who want to build IMFL brand have failed. So they already start on a weak wicket.

No major M&A happenning in the IMFL segments. So no great upside prospects. + its a delhi company..Be more wise...than hasty. You can always pick it up for discounted values later on...
68. Sheky |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 12:53:50 PM
Apply definatly.

See analysis 37.

Avoid oil india it's max traded at 1200 though gives only Rs.150*22 = Rs.3300.

While this issue definatly gives you Rs.20 primium on listing day.

Thank,
67. Asu |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 11:34:51 AM
why dont somebody post a conclusion ? to apply or not to apply ?
66. Coachipo |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 11:33:48 AM
Hey guyz

this is an average IPO. See Capital Market grading is of 35/100 whereas it gave a rating of 47/100 to NHPC . Hence it is advisable to apply and also sell the application. (Kostak = 1600 = 20% return).

Book profit and beat the market.

CoachIPO
65. bharat |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 11:24:33 AM
invest in this ipo it will touch RS 200 in a month
64. ram |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 9:52:24 AM
Guys dont see this SP Tulsian website..remember last year he recommended Empee Distellers to subscribe and for listing gains price around 430/-...but in first day it self price went down to 300/-...so never bilieve this guy..
63. upmeet |   Link |  Bookmark | August 31, 2009 2:09:04 AM
sp tulsian have no grade. he is doing timepass on his site.
62. Sheky |   Link |  Bookmark | August 29, 2009 10:58:04 PM
Book Valu is around: Rs.55 so,sold even at lesser than 2X
Above PAT is already given but from it's financials I may give Approx EPS as follows:
Year EPS P/E
2004: .24 NA (Not listed so market price not available)
2005: .31 NA (Not listed so market price not available)
2006: 6.88 NA (Not listed so market price not available)
2007: 11.38 NA (Not listed so market price not available)
2008: 10.38 15.42 (Privatly placed at Rs.160 and equity increase that's why even profit increase EPS decrease)
2009:(Firet Quarter EPS 5.52) so, currently offered at arround Only 5 P/E ratio if result continue with same EPS for next three quarter.

Even result worsen It should be atleast once traded at 3X book value which = 55*3 = Rs.165

Thanks,
61. sheky |   Link |  Bookmark | August 29, 2009 10:38:22 PM
http://www.globusspirits.com/pdfs/BALANCE_SHEET.pdf
Check financials of company of last 5 year and also of last quarter before investment.

I think it may gives u intial listing gain atleast. Secondly, company have already tried to rise fund of 68cr. in Feb, 2008 but due to bearish market cancelled it at last movment. at that time price band was expected 140-160. price band now reduce to 90-100, while It's financia improves so I think it definatly breaks 140 within one month time.

But after next quarter result you have to recheck fundamental.
I m go for full application for listing gain and want to sell stock minimum at Rs.115 on listing day.

Thanks,
60. Parmod Gupta Sohna |   Link |  Bookmark | August 29, 2009 5:50:41 PM

pls invest in all ipo after subscription at nse site on second
last day of the issue closed day if it is above 6% then have to apply otherwise not.
59. pragnesh |   Link |  Bookmark | August 29, 2009 5:12:32 PM
kesa hai globus sprit ka ipo plz informe u
58. alok |   Link |  Bookmark | August 28, 2009 9:36:54 PM
in continuation to my previous message by 2 pm i will find out the subscription through NSE site and then apply through icici direct
57. alok |   Link |  Bookmark | August 28, 2009 9:32:22 PM
on 2nd sept we will know by 2 pm wether HNI investors jumps on the cartel or not and i will decide to subscribe therafter
56. vinod |   Link |  Bookmark | August 28, 2009 8:21:42 PM
CARE IPO grade is 3 {Average Fundamental}. You can see 'IPO Grading - NSE' link in same page. Request all to post message related to relevant IPOs only.