I will apply in all my 19 a/c ....5% to retail investors + 4% to nii and qib makes it 9% as simple as that ..... and that to firm allotment application wise ....have already started to arrange the funds ....too manys ipos in too little time....
Ravi forget all it will list at 950..... start counting profit application wise.....subjected too nifty remain in 9800 to 9900 range.......This ipo is far better than sbi life and icici lombard....
paji m thinking abt giving a miss to MAS for applying in GIC frm all acc,is it a good idea according to u??nd is there any chance RII remail below 1x in GIC?
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October 5, 2017 3:25:01 PM
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How do you plan to arrange funds for 19 applications, Very Short term Loans??? @ What ROI???
Harry apply in 1 lot off mas financial....if u r lucky u will get it and apply with full force in gic housing....u can use godrej ipo money in gic housing
@rajkumar ji If QIB will apply for more than 40000 crore in this Ipo at 912 round about 20x oversubscription as expected ..Than why we r hesistating at 867...if still u have doubt than apply offline after QIB data on last day...As far as 9 % is concerned its all prediction as we r expecting listing at 950 ...9 % to retailors and 4 % at least for qib and nii
Boss in India, as of now, 27 lac applications are not possible. Highest 21 lac were there in Cochin shipyard. We should consider the fact that Cochin was having 1000+ rate per application in grey market. Here grey market rates are low, therefore not more than 15-18 lac applications will come. Therefore, good scope for full 2 lac applications. Every application with 2 lac will surely get 1 lot + 25% to 100% of the balance quota.
If grey market bhav improves, then also applications will not exceed 21-22 lac, still big applications will get 20% additional shares.
My 2 cents : 1. Apply atleast 1 lot if you have financial constrains 2. Apply upto 2 lac, if money is availabale
ASK FOLLOWING QUESTIONS DOES GIC MAKING OPERATING PROFIT ? THEY ARE MAKING PROFIT FROM INVESTMENT RATHER THAN INSURANCE BUSINESS THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS IS IN LOSS A COMPANY DOES NOT MAKE OPERSTING PROFIT IS PREMIUM JUTYIFIED? GOVT TAKING OUT MONEY FROM LOSS MAKING BUSINESS. HANDING OVER TO SMALL INVESTOR
PL LOOK IN TO THEIR FINSNCIAL CAREFULLY BEFORE APPLYING
INVESTOR NEED TO BE VERY VERY CAUTIOUS DON''T GO BY NAME OR GOVT ORG.
VERY POORLY MANAGED ORGANISATION
AVIOD CLEAR AVOID ISSUE AT SUCH HUGE PREMIUM NOT WORTH. PAYING PREMIUM TO SUCH COMPANY
LIC IS THERE AS STANDBY TO SUPPORT ISSUE
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October 6, 2017 10:04:57 AM
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Appox 2000 crores of operating profit was there in 2017. In previous years also, OP was there. Please check from where did u get negative OP figures. I checked from prospectus.
Tops....please don''t apply. We r happy to make profit from GIC as well. No insurance company make profit from operations...hahaha...that''s shows Ur knowledge in stock market and understanding of company...
Most likely we can''t use Godrej money for GIC too. official refund date for Godrej is 13th so expected to credited in account next day.13th is last date of application for GIC. What should we do ? I guess I have to skip any one among Godrej, Mas, Indian energy and GIC. I already applied Godrej 10 lot. which one I should ignore ? please advice.
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October 5, 2017 8:12:00 PM
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Revenue growth = 12% PAT growth = 8.88% FY18 Estimate EPS= Rs.38.95,; asking PE= 23.4x PEG= 2.63 P/B= 3.89 RoNW~16% Retail Discount Rs.45 While all the above figures are indeed good, and it looks like GIC is worth holding in portfolio but with Rs.912 the Market Cap will be Rs. 80000 crores and P/S comes to be 21.06!!! which is astoundingly high. Don''t know what to make out of it.
The figures stated on the website are not correct. The figure in Revenue row is actually Profit Before Tax.
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October 5, 2017 10:01:30 PM
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No dear , figures in Chittorgarh website is correct, save for those are Standalone and not Consolidated. Anyways I have my data based on RHP , not on Chittorgarh website
I think 1 lot is good, that is also for long term Since issue is of12.47 cr shares Everyone will get allotment If you can hold it for long term go for 1 lot only I don''t see very much listing gain...
What is the possibility of getting full shares in 2 lac application. If chances are there, I would love to apply full as 5% discount is there. I dont care grey market premium.
Great Things: PE = 25 Book Value = 225 (p/b expected 4) RETAIL DISCOUNT = 5% ALLOTMENT POSSIBILITY = MINIMUM LOT TO EACH APPLICANT IS SURE EVEN HIGHER ALLOTMENT POSSIBLE TO APPLICANTS MAKING MORE THAN 1 LOT IN RETAIL QUOTA.
very few PSU company nearby GIC Re (profit), if u combined all PSU bank, all PSU General Insurance company and Pvt general ins co. GIC profit may higher than all
Very true...!!! this is not a reinsurer of single life or General Ins sector, it is a combined of Life + General Ins, which means every Ins co across the world + many State Govt funds etc is the client of GIC Re. As per my source other very strong positive Factor is the low management cost, boz total strength of Employees across the globe ( Indian + Foreign Branches ) is not more than 550 to 600, And look at the profit after tax..Last year 2016-17 - Inr 3000 Crs (approx ), 2015-16 - Inr 2800 Crs..which is not possible in many corporates to give that much profits with employee strength of 600 Approx....think guys.......!!!! take your call....
For a Retailer what will be Maximum Lot Size Means 13 Lot or 14 Lot ? 13*16 208 share or 14*16 224 share ? Because after considering 45 Rs Discount A Retailer can Apply for Maximum 14 Lot that is 224 Share on Upper Price Band, (224 Share* {912-45=867} = 1,94,208/-) Am I correct ? Please Reply
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October 5, 2017 3:22:24 PM
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@Ravi Kant, I tried opening ICICIDirect account for my minor son with his PAN Card. But ICICI Direct refused to open account for less than 18 years even if PAN is provided. Can you let me know u opened Minor account with which broker?
Dear all 25 to 28 lakh application expected in this particular ipo soo do not invest 2 lakh in single application it is worthless..... even dormant demat holders have started inquiry abt this ipo
Manjit Bhai, Someone in the Board has quoted that it has a grey market premium of Rs. 25 only (Rs. 45 - Rs. 20 discount, Net Rs. 25), if it is the case, Retail Applicants will not apply more than 15 lac applications, in that case, very strong chance of more allotment in Retail applying for 2 lac full.
However, I dont agree that it will list in discount. and why should be a case of discount bhav even before ipo opens, if its true why should HNI and QIB apply, they should purchase from grey market.
1. Sell your ICICI Pru (If you hold) 2. Sell your SBI (If you hold) 3. Sell ICICI Lombard (If you have)
4. Apply maximum quantity in GIC. Because 24-25PE, 4 times price to book, 5% retail discount, Hugh gain expected. Even if the share list at par @ 912, you will make handsome 5%.
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October 5, 2017 11:19:14 AM
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GOVT IS FACING CRITISISM FROM ALL AROUND. SO IR CANT ALLOW ITS LARGEST IPO TO LIST IN DISCOUNT. EVEN IF IT LISTS AT 1 % DISCOUNT, NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL MEDIA WILL MAKE A LOT OF HULLA HULLA. WHEN WE (ONLY RETAILERS) HAVE 5% DISCOUNT,WE SHOULD NOT LET THIS OPPORTUNITY GO WASTE.