GMP is always before listing. On are after listing it is called premium to issue price. Some site says 20% gain is possible on listing . Lets hope for the best.
I am not going to apply..I am sure it will list with discount even though we have 45/- discount Big AVOID.
193. R R Patel| Link| Bookmark|
October 11, 2017 6:06:01 PM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
General Insurance Corporation Ltd. IPO Subscription figures (BSE+NSE)on day 1@5PM:- QIB - 1.56X (Full) HNI/NII - 0.004X Retail - 0.06X Employees - 0.13X Total - 0.79X Good start on first day for a big issue. I am applying for full 2 lakh application and also suggest for it.
RR Patel please give your expert advise here : If issue will oversubscribe over all except RII then there is any chance for allotment at lower price band in GIC Re IPO.
For better understanding e.g.
QIB - oversubscrice HNI/NII - oversubscrice Retail - Under Subs Employees - oversubscrice Total - oversubscrice
No. If it oversubscribe then forget about issue price at lower price. If issue is undersubscribe in all categories then also company will decide allotment price. Allotment price is same for all category.
For OFS allotment price should different for Retail and others.
192.2. R R Patel| Link| Bookmark|
October 11, 2017 9:20:05 PM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
No chance for allotment at lower price. After closing of IPO, company in consultation with BRLM (Book Running Lead Manager) decides the issue price for allotment of shares in all categories which is mostly at upper price band but in case of QIB quota fully not subscribed at cutoff or upper price band although full subscribed than the issue price may be at lower price band. Remember the case of Bharti Infratel IPO in December 2012 in which price band was Rs.210-240 but final issue price was Rs.220 per share. You can see on this site also.
So always apply at cutoff. If issue price for allotment comes at lower price band than you will automatically get the allotment at lower price band.
Suppose retail portion subscribes at 0.7 times and we apply at lower band. Suppose overall subscription is 4 times. Will we get allotment in that case ?
As far as the retail individual investors (RIIs) are concerned, the process of allocation of shares is different. The maximum amount which retail investors can apply per IPO is Rs. 2 lakh. In order to determine the total demand for shares in the retail investor category, all the applications are grouped together and the total number of applications are calculated. If the number of applications are more than the number of shares offered for retail investors, the maximum RIIs who are eligible for the allotment of the minium bid lot are determined.
The total number of equity shares available for allotment to RIIs is divided by the minimum bid lot. This gives the maximum number of RIIs who can be allotted the shares. For example - If shares worth Rs. 20 lakh need to be allotted to the retail segment and the minimum lot size is Rs. 10,000, only a maximum of 200 applicants will be allotted the shares with the minimum lot of Rs. 10,000.
If the number of RIIs exceed the maximum RII allottees, the RIIs (in that category) who will be eligible for the minimum bid lot will be determined on the basis of draw of lots. This is a computerised process and hence there is no room for partiality.
If Retail portion is undersubscribed and an investor has applied at lower price, but if other portions are oversubscribed at upper price, Issue Price will be fixed at Upper Price and application with lower Price will get rejected.
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October 11, 2017 7:39:23 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
If place the BID at minimum bid amount i.e. at Rs - 855, then chances of allotment is almost NIL.
Sbi life qib fig is just .06% on first day here it is 1.5x......fire work on tomm and last day ..watch...do not trap on grey market trades..NII AND RII figures dosnt matter in this ipo.....
GIC QIB quota is over subscribed. This is govt IPO and Mutual funds including LIC, SBI are fully supporting so that issue can be subscribed and general public can also enter. Otherwise there would be no interest shown by FIIs and Retailers. The same history repeated as compare to SBI life when QIB quota was over subscribed. 5% discount is only attraction of this IPO so that if listing is in discount by 20-30 Rs. retailers can still gain otherwise there is no interest at all.