I think no. I tried it on MAS and Godrej IPOs. The logic is although you can fill in other person''s demat account details, it gets submitted on your PAN number which makes the application invalid. I looked for an option to edit the bid and update the correct PAN number but could not find it.
Why all sites are showing GMP of this issue in DISCOUNT. Is it so bad? LIC is putting huge amount. Whether any expert boarder can offer a logical conclusion for applying or not. I am bit confused. All earlier insurers viz SBI Life, ICICI Lombard etc had low GMP but not in discount. Though it is reinsurer having very good financials yet showing negative GMP.
In my opinion, GMP cannot be negative. Why should someone buy share at higher price from primary market & sell it in secondary market. Consider GMP as zero instead of -ve.
Subscription is low because (a) this is a big issue (b) there is hardly any increase in Net Profit in the last 3 years inspite of bumper increase in Premium Collected. The above is weighing heavily inspite of reasonable price.
RETAIL COMFORT Retail have comfort of Rs 45 discount so the Risk for retail is low from loss on listing point of view.
LIC is a long term player in addition to being a Cash Cow to bailout PSU IPO /OFS. It should be a big comfort for Retail if LIC has bid so heavily in the first hours of issue opening implying the underlying value. Normally Bailout by LIC comes in later part of the Issue which does not seem to the case here.
The huge size of the Issue will naturally limit Over subscription thus the resultant low expectation of Listing Gains.
All in all Retail should expect good allotment and downside being capped if one applies for full 2 lakhs. Mere 5% Premium listing could result in Gains of upto @19-20 thousand on listing.
Finance ministry have given instructions to LIC to apply in full force in GIC Issue. So now basically there is GIC and LIC in picture with some retail participation. Too risky to apply if FII are not bidding
In Case QIB and HNI quota is oversubscribed and RII quota is undersubscribed and overall IPO is oversubscribed. And suppose if placed my bid some 20 rs below the ceiling prize under RII quota. In that case will i get the allotment under the RII quota as RII quota is undersubscribed or QIB/HNI having higher bid prize will be alotted the shares of RII quota. Hence I need to place my bid at the highest prize?
Thanks PSR. But my question was related to undersubscription and What happens to unsubscribed quota?
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October 12, 2017 4:35:32 PM
IPO Guru (1300+ Posts, 700+ Likes)
In case, un-subscribed portion if any, under any of the categories including RII, the same will be allocated to the other catogories viz., HNI/NII & QIB, depending on the demand from the respective catogories at same price i.e. at CUT-OFF. However, whatever is allocated to RIIs, Discount will be given, if the same is announced.
Under subscriptio in retail will be transferred to QIB and HNI. Price discovery is collective from all the 3 categories. Undersubscription in retail will not entitle retail investors to get below discovered price. Price is same for all categories except Retail Discount. Most likely price discovered will be 912 and will be same for QIB, HNI and retail (but for retail discount). Even if the price is decided lower than 912, say 900, that will be same for all three categories (but for retail discount) .
If you apply @ 911 and retail remains undersubscribed, and price is fixed at 912, you will get zero shares. If you bid at cut off and price is fixed at 890, you will get shares @ 845 (890-45).
Bidding, below highest of the band or other than cut off is a futile exercise for retail.
GIC IPO: *SOURCE NEWS* 8,77,20,000 Shares bid comes from LIC
Remember a major part of Warren Buffet s portfolio is insurance....with a market as big as India he will be watching with a hawks eye which co. To target ....sooner or later ....and then all will follow the pied Piper....
5 years from now these insurance cos. Will be the darlings of the mkt with FII s owning major stakes....all will be in the fno and FII S WILL BE dictating which of them to be in the nifty and index....
So accumulate in a systematic way for the next generation....
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October 12, 2017 3:15:23 PM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
General Insurance Corporation Ltd. IPO Subscription figures (BSE+NSE)on day 2@2:10PM:- QIB - 1.61X HNI/NII - 0.007X Retail - 0.11X Employees - 0.27X Total - 0.84X Apply full 2 lakh application.
Tried to apply using ASBA from South Indian Bank ,. was applying for 208 shares but bank is not adjusting 45 rs discount and holding 189696 , will 45 rs discount get applied on allotment and refund around 9000 rs if all shares are alloted ? anyone pls guide . Thanks in advance .
Thanks for your reply , highly appreciated for help. I will go at cut of price without discount as bank site is not adjusting 45 rs discount. I feel more likely that discount will be adjusted once allotment is done from exchange .
Its always safe to apply IPO at cutoff as if company desicedes lower than cutoff then all will get same price. But if company decides cutoff proice then your bids lower than cutoff will get rejected.
Haarjeet, as per my understanding, - If price decided at Rs 912, you will get 16 shares allotted. Your option 1 will be rejected. - If price decided at Rs 855, you will get 32. Both your option will be valid.
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October 12, 2017 12:47:25 PM
(1100+ Posts, 1100+ Likes)
There is negligible chance of discovered price @855