Hello Senior Members, What is the analysis of the 4.00pm final data for GIC of QIB & NIIs subscription? Should we, the retail category investors take risk and put money? Please guide me.
Since HNI are absent, I feel there will be no selling pressure on listing. Only thing to worry is that will LIC or others bail out the retail on listing ;) :D
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October 13, 2017 4:36:52 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
if it list near 900 or tocuhes 900 on listing day then only we can have 5-10K profit on our 2 lakh rs of investment....
@Lokes: Retail has discount of Rs. 45/-. Punters are giving 3000 for a 2L application. Which means that it will give minimum profit of 4000 or more as otherwise they wouldn''t offer 3000 to us. Apply without any fear.
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October 13, 2017 5:05:30 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
@pratik With all good companies what would you do would be the same thing you would do here. Dont panic and run but dip and average at considerable lows if any.
In spite off -35 rs means full 4 % discount in grey market ...still they have made bid FII rs 500 crore and MUTUAL FUNDS rs 565 crore.....low participation is due to grey market discount....now in grey market discount was trimed to -26 rs....
Since the overall subscription is above 1x, no one will get shares below 912 (discount applicable in Retail & Employees). Don''t apply at lower price or your application will be rejected.
Sir, are you sure about this? I ask this because my research tells me otherwise. First round of allocation would happen by category, and only excess in categories would be allocated to other categories. As per my understanding, everyone in RII should get in full. Please correct me if I am wrong.
By mistake I replied the below msg to someone else....
@newbeearound: First allotment preference will be given to the people who have bid at 912 (including retail and employee discount). If any shares are left, irrespective of category, they will be allotted to the next higherst bidder.
In the current case nobody bidding below 912 (except retail and employee) will get any allotment for sure
@Rajkumar: Thanks. You have a point. In fact the preference order between "highest bidder" and "issue category" should be defined in the SEBI regulations. I will check.
So tight slap on Govt.. out of so far bidding done both NSE and BSE , domestic institutions have done 82% of that.. hope they go back to drawing board and think better statergy how to do better in upcoming IPOs like IRCTC and all.
I am quite frustrated since somebody first posted GMP on this for the pricing they did.. Honestly, this was my and many of us here''s Diwali dream with massive bidding planned by emptying pockets.. had they done 150 Rs less on IPO price .. it was another Coal india .. alas !
This is result of greedy FM n as well as Govt strategy ,they think name is important but investors r not fool at all ,so govt manage so difficult there image on listing day.agree with big slap on the face of Govt.
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October 13, 2017 4:53:38 PM
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After seeing the pathetic response by HNI & RII categories, I am happy that finally individual investors have become alert about the valuations and boldly said NO. A solid slap on face of a popular Govt who wants to sell the peoples'' assets to the people at the maximum price like a greedy private promoter!
*General Insurance Corporation of India* FINAL DAY SUBS.FIGURE AT 03:43 pm QIB 2.27X NII 0.13X RII 0.45X EMP 0.88X TOTAL 1.31X
Total No.of FORMS : 499861 *Apps Wise : 0.18X*
is se achha subscription to Green Signal Bio Pharma ka hi ho gya tha Retail me :/
512.1. lokes| Link| Bookmark|
October 13, 2017 4:50:41 PM
IPO Guru (4400+ Posts, 5100+ Likes)
bhai isme total number of shares pata hai kitne hai....how can you compare....it is possible that much more people has applied in this in comparision to green signal bio pharma etc...but due to its high size, subscription figure will be low.....
i thnk its like a sbi life insurance which give profit on listing after that price decreased when lic sold its portion. ..any suggestion please...this is my another worst dicission to apllied this ipo after sbi life insurance ??? or it will give me profit in long term but as per economy times its highly priced it is so?????
Against quota of 62,282,640 shares in QIB bids for 125,186,384 shares have been received till 3 pm. Hence I feel who ever are left to get a piece of the pie, will buy at listing, so no need to worry in my opinion.
Interest + Expense of a 2L worth allotment is not more than 1.5k in any condition for a week or 10 days time. One is getting 3k and a chance for extra "potential" profit. Apply with full force, if things turn sour at later stage, just sell your application at anyprice higher than 1500 and you are safe. Take some risk.
I have a feeling that GIC will price the share at the lower end of the band i.e Rs 855 due to poor subscription numbers. And if that is done then it could be a cracker of a diwali. Cheers :-)
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October 13, 2017 4:36:28 PM
IPO Mentor (800+ Posts, 3400+ Likes)
General Insurance Corporation Ltd. IPO Subscription figures (BSE+NSE)@3:30PM:- QIB - 2.21X HNI/NII - 0.13X Retail - 0.44X Employees - 0.87X Total - 1.29X Apply for full 2 lakh.
First allotment preference will be given to the people who have bid at 912 (including retail and employee discount). If any shares are left, irrespective of category, they will be allotted to the next higherst bidder.
In the current case nobody bidding below 912 (except retail and employee) will get any allotment for sure.