You have a non-zero probability of getting shares at 855.
Considering the overall poor response, It will be difficult for the government to keep the "Cut off" price at high end (912) but can you really trust the government.
Some stocks are for long term. It is such a huge issue and the response has been mixed. I still feel many mutual funds will start accumulating this stock. Keep it for life long and forget it. I am sure it will come up with good dividends In the near future. Many members are just creating panic for no reason. Whole stick market is expensive. Sbi, Icici Lombard and GIC are safe bets. Accumulate at every dips.
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October 13, 2017 5:50:33 PM
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who knows, GIC may reduce the price , bcas LIC has bailed them out
It will definitely list at a discount. Still people who have applied at lower band will make money as the cost will be 810.00 and it is likely to list at a discount of say maximum of Rs. 62 that is around 850. Rs. 40 per share on 240 shares applied is 9600. If multiple application then multiples of 9600....... This is the what I expect after going through various interactions with brokers, dealers and other available information.
@Dhruv Kathpalia, those who have applied in lower bid value will get allotment only if the cutoff price is fixed in lower one, otherwise their application will be rejected irrespective of retail quota is fully subscribed or not. If majority of QIBs applied in lower bid value then only the chances of fixing in lower bid value as cutoff price may be considered. My guess is that the issue price will be 912 with admissible discount to retailers. But, listing price could not be judged in view of prevailing market condition.
Larger Players and operators change their game every time to ensure that they do not lose money on their investments. Due to this un-predictability stock market investments are relatively high risk - high return investments.
Retail investors are mere followers in the market and not much role in price discovery post listing. Price after listing will depend upon the demand (mostly large investors and operators) of this stock after listing which may or may not be as bad as demand scenario in IPO.
I think retail portion will not fill more than 65% HNI due to 0 GMP will not be encouraging.. So unfilled will go to QIBs So Why they will heavily buy on listing day... Retailers will sell
Abhi take KA response dekhkar lagta hai ----Qibs waiting for retailers to apply RIIs waiting for Qibs to apply...---- Hahaha
Good article... thanks for sharing... But I don''t agree with this mantra "never ever invest in any IPO". One should be careful and apply in selected IPO after proper homework and research....
Retail Investors have no reason to complain about allotment of shares in this issue . As the issue is not fully subscribed under retail category , all applicants will get firm allotment . Rejection may be on technical grounds . Other than that no other ground for rejection of application. Still keeping fingers crossed .
I have doubt that it''ll be alloted at lower price (855). If anyone remember, Indigo was also undersubscribed but allotment was done on upper band only.
Apply at lower price and finish it off. If you get then you have chances of making some money else money will be refunded. In case you bid at higher price the there are more chances of loosing money. LIC can wait for 10, 20, ....years with their investment if the price goes down, they can keep on avering big time but retail investors cannot. So PLAY SAFE.
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October 13, 2017 5:09:59 PM
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General Insurance Corporation Ltd. IPO Subscription figures (BSE+NSE)@4PM:- QIB - 2.25X HNI/NII - 0.22X Retail - 0.48X Employees - 0.9X Total - 1.32X Apply for full 2 lakh.
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October 13, 2017 5:18:11 PM
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Foks, DON''T WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING. JUST SEE EMPLOYEE QUOTA SUBCRIPTIONS FIGURES IT ALMOST SUBCRIBED ONE TIME. SINCE IPO SIZE HUGE SUBCRIPTION WILL BE BELOW PAR. WE WONT LOOSE OUR MONEY. KEEP INVESTED.
I''m vey sure that people investing in retail category at Rs. 855 will get the shares at Rs. 810 irrespective of the overall subscription more that 1 times. If Retail is not fully subscribed all the eligible applicants (after removing technical defaults) will be alloted shares at the rate they have applied and the balance shares will be passed on (transferred) to the HNI and QIB at the rate between 855 and 912, as applied by them and will be distributed from 912 to 855 in the decending order, meaning who has applied at the highest price gets at that price .....